Topic: What will the Wii U offer the non Hardcore gamer?

@Mandible

it was lack of power combined with lack of ram and horrible architecture. thus wii factually couldn't run something like rage.

You know, this bashing of Nintendo is doing nothing to help your image. You sound like all the other journalists out their who have a grudge against Nintendo just because they do something different from the competition.

I have a Wii, 3DS, and PS3. I don't like one system more than the other, I play all 3 equally.

I'm bashing Nintendo now? I'm not even sure how I would bash a company - I imagine punching a brick wall would hurt, and i don't like pain.

I'm not sure how you could take that as a criticism of Nintendo anyway. Contrary to fanboy belief, Nintendo's programmers are not superhuman, and if you don't think there's a learning curve to go from developing SD games to HD games, then you don't know what you're talking about.

Developing HD capabilities is going to take Nintendo's internal people time and investment. It unlikely you'll see a massive run of Nintendo games in the early Wii U days, while they get up to scratch, since Nintendo likes to try and release quality software not rush things to market.

But hey, nice try. Keep being that little engine that thought he could.

took skyward sword 5 years to come out. HD development is hard. look at this list of studios that's closed this gen due to rising dev costs.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459131

Dancing Games,Crappy made for cash games like Kidz Bop and some sport games

Mii games

Which is probably why they sent out a massive hiring list months ago. They realized that they were too small to accomplish the bigger projects at hand. Hopefully they are big enough to tackle multiple projects at once.

The wiiu will be nintendos last home gaming machine, which is a shame, the wiiu wont have any real 3rd party backing. With out this "the hardcore" wont fall into the same trap as they did with the wii. The casual market wont buy in great numbers as they have wii and they wont see the difference. Sure Wiiu will have 2 great mario games, a mario kart and a zelda game, but this is not enough. and a gimick controller will not be able to save the day.
I really hope to be proved wrong, nintendo has given me many many great gaming moments. The only way nintendo can push forward is to do a sega and just develop fantastic games for other gaming machines........just think mario kart HD running on xbox, with live........

@BudrSbastig
1: where did you hear wii u will be nintendo's last game console?
2: Why would you want mario kart on Xbox. Mario kart is great because it's on NINTENDO consoles.
3. The end of nintendo will surely come if they stop making hardware.
4. Wii u won't just have nintendo games, it will have plenty of 3rd party support.
5. The controller is the main reason people want to buy the wii u in the first place.

@magic-wind All I was trying to say is that nintendo make great games.....look at galaxy 1+2, mario kart 7, skyward sword, the metroid games......we all love nintendo games, but think how good the next versions of these games could be if nintendo could focus all there attention into game devlopment and not into the next shaky shaky controller, the next mario galaxy with a proper pad i.e xbox or ps and with a proper online service would be epic.

Mario with standard controls would be BORING. The reason I like nintendo is that they keep things fresh. Unlike the other two companies.

I like many others, hate waggle control, its ok for kids, if given the option I always play wii games with my wavebird (still the best controller ) All i'm saying is that if nintendo want to attract the "hardcore" they should licence out there games to a "hardcore" machine. The joy of a mario game could go through the roof.......BLING Mario has collected 10,000 coins achievements /trophie

"Hardcore" you kidding me right. That word means nothing, it's just stupid. I always hear nintendo isn't "hardcore". What exactly does that word mean anyway. If not having standard controls doesn't make a console "hardcore" than your not real gamer. A REAL gamer plays all games regardless of whether or not it uses motion controls.

Except Nintendo didn't pull a Sega and flopped their latest hardware

I actually heard that the teams within Nintendo aren't having that much of a hard time developing games for WiiU. HD is just simply "resolution".

I hate the word "hardcore" but that is the word nintendo are using on there press realise's

Super mario, Super mario 2, super mario 3, The lost levels, SM64, SM Sunshine, all had normal controls and were far from boring!

Fresh new games that make casual games enjoy.

That's because of the media. It's also clouded with a false meaning. It used to mean something else back then. Now, it's changed completely.

I stick with the old meaning because it makes the most sense.

I'm talking about new consoles. All those game had great controls. I'm saying that you can't use the same controls forever, they would get boring.