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Topic: SMASH BROS:Pit should be BANNED and removed.

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Chrono_Cross

41. Posted:

And it looks like you misunderstood his! Congrats! :D

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LordJumpMad

42. Posted:

Geonjaha wrote:

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Pit:"Your not ready yet!"
Theres your answer

Above all else Pit doesnt know his english? - You're?

Thank you Grammar Nazi for taking the time to fix that and also double post.

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come back to me when you face a Pit like this then maybe we'll take you a little more seriously.

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Nintendo6400

43. Posted:

This video looks hacked. Battlefield can't be played during the winter. And no, Pit should not be banned.

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jpfan1989

44. Posted:

Linkstrikesback wrote:

jpfan1989 wrote:

liammiller18 wrote:

jpfan1989 wrote:

Adam wrote:

Pit? What a joke. He's decent. I've never come across anyone particularly good with him. Here is how he is ranked in competitive play, for what that's worth: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tier_list#Brawl_tier_list. All your experience proves is that you aren't good at playing against him, not that he is particularly unbalanced. If there were some serious problem with him, everyone would share your experience.

WTF? this tier list is all wrong there are characters in top that should be on the bottom, wtf is metaknight doing in S? that should be Olimar. DK and Capt Falcon should be A and the whole bottom row shouldn't be there. Falco should be lower, he isnt as good as his melee counterpart... wario is good, Pikachu should be A.... I could just tear this whole thing apart, but that would be off topic

It's very clear you don't know anything about the competitive scene for Brawl. While tier lists are endlessly debatable and open to change, the very fact that you don't think Meta Knight should be S Tier instantly tells me you don't know a thing.

I am Anti-Tier myself from my understanding of what people say, a tier list character from strongest to weakest this is BS because they are based on tournament winners the only reason Metaknight is up there is because everyone uses him if the competators are 75% metaknight then of course he is going to end up in the top but does that make his the strongest character NO he is no where near it. sure he can rack up damage fast but he is a light weight and easy to kill with only a few good hits. He is only at S because of popularity.

Congratulations, you completely missed and/or misunderstood the point.

Here's a hint: Metaknight wasn't the most played character to start out with. Then after a significant number of tournaments over multiple years, it became obvious that the majority of the people who were winning were using Metaknight! Then, in a completely related incident more people started using metaknight because it improved the likelyhood they were going to win!

Either way: The only way Metaknight was EVER going to stop winning ever tournament, is if he was banned. Regardless of if it was because of the massive amount of metaknight players or if it was because he was just that good. Obviously both contribute, but the second one is what caused the first.

I still think its BS. I dont care who you are Meta knight is not that good. I can beat anyones meta knight with any character especially the bottom tier characters

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Mabbit

45. Posted:

GUYS, CALM DOWN, I HEAR A PATCH IS COMING OUT IN JANUARY.
loljk, but seriously, unless you're a competitive player, who cares?

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Xiao_Pai

46. Posted:

Everyone is overpowered, they should ban and remove all of them.

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Chrono_Cross

47. Posted:

They should ban the stages too. Way OP.

Dats a fact right der.

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Xiao_Pai

48. Posted:

They should ban Smash Bros. in general, its way overpowered. lol

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49. Posted:

everyone should get a participation trophy everytime they lose a match in Brawl!

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komicturtle

50. Posted:

The video LJM just put out shows how tiers can't be taken seriously... Or be a source of who's better. A good Jigglypuff can beat down a good Snake, just as a good Ness can smack down a good Metaknight.

Unlike most competetive players, I'm one who don't really play the game with a "plan". My play style adjusts under circumstances. You know, how people do the "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" maneuver in this game? Well, with me, that doesn't work :P

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51. Posted:

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Pit? What a joke. He's decent. I've never come across anyone particularly good with him. Here is how he is ranked in competitive play, for what that's worth: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tier_list#Brawl_tier_list. All your experience proves is that you aren't good at playing against him, not that he is particularly unbalanced. If there were some serious problem with him, everyone would share your experience.

But Meta Knight is crap too!

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zezhyrule

52. Posted:

KomicZ wrote:

The video LJM just put out shows how tiers can't be taken seriously... Or be a source of who's better. A good Jigglypuff can beat down a good Snake, just as a good Ness can smack down a good Metaknight.

Here's a quote from the link Adam posted :O

It is a common misconception among new players, and even some experienced players, that all the characters in the series are equal. It is thought amongst them that the strengths and weaknesses of characters balances them out. However, the consensus of competitive players is that tiers do exist. They believe that it would be almost impossible for developers to balance a game of unlike characters, because the differing properties of each character produce a huge number of variables that cannot successfully be monitored and modified for the purpose of balance.

Thus, developers cannot foresee top-level strategies, and even deliberate efforts will not balance a game at a professional level. Furthermore, the developers did not intend for games in the Smash series to be played competitively, and the conditions under which they are played in tournaments are different to those under which they expect the game to be played. Years of empirical results also support the existence of tiers; national tournament winners of Melee most commonly use Jigglypuff, Fox, Falco, or Sheik. In response to the fact that the tier list changes, pro-tiers state that the anti-tiers' argument does not weigh against the existence of tiers, because the tier list must change as the metagame changes.

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liammiller18

53. Posted:

KomicZ wrote:

The video LJM just put out shows how tiers can't be taken seriously... Or be a source of who's better. A good Jigglypuff can beat down a good Snake, just as a good Ness can smack down a good Metaknight.

Unlike most competetive players, I'm one who don't really play the game with a "plan". My play style adjusts under circumstances. You know, how people do the "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" maneuver in this game? Well, with me, that doesn't work :P

Tiers aren't an end-all "You play this character, you win" kind of deal. All a tier list is saying is essentially that a theoretical person of an equal level of mastery with every character would win using the characters higher on the list. Obviously, a bad player using Meta Knight will still lose to a good player with Ganondorf, as player skill is what matters most, but tier lists are valid in what they argue for. A good example of tier lists would be Pokemon tier lists. Mewtwo being top, Gyarados a bit lower and Ditto rather low down. Mewtwo is in a higher position because if two players of equal skill were to repeatedly battle using only a Capped Mewtwo and a Capped DItto, Mewtwo would consistently come out the victor. Obviously, for action games it's far more debatable as there are many more factors to consider, but tier lists are still valid indicators of which characters are generally better than others, and as far as Smash goes, SBR's tier lists are extremely dead on.

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shingi_70

54. Posted:

Who Cares. If your biggest problem is how power the characters than you need to get out more and stop playing games. As long as items are apart of the game and stages are crazy than The Competitiveness of the game is kinda moot. Its not like SF or KOF where the game is developed with this stuff in mind. Becuase in all honestly the only way to balance the game is.

No Items
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and that's not fun at all.

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55. Posted:

The_Fox wrote:

That's why I'm hoping the Wii U is patch friendly. Games like Smash Bros could easily be tweaked to weed out imbalances.

the wii is patch friendly blops got like 10 patches

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zezhyrule

56. Posted:

shingi_70 wrote:

and that's not fun at all.

Maybe it's not fun to you, who says it's not to other people? I for one enjoy grinding all day in RPGs, I'm sure a lot of people don't find that too fun. Funness is relative :O

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komicturtle

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At the end of the day- I don't care about the tier list. I haven't looked at it in 2 or 3 years and I still play Smash Bros. competitively (but mostly for fun, not tournament-wise). To me, the tier list is a joke if you want to base things on that. Good for you. I'll play my Yoshi, Kirby, Ness, Peach, Jigglypuff, Pikachu, PT, Zelda, Wario, Olimar, Ice Climber, Sonic and have fun :)

Funny story: I was playing someone in my state online, and this person used to play as Kirby, Jigglypuff and Marth mostly. A year later, all of sudden, the person did a 180 and now uses Metaknight and Marth only. What's worse, his personality changed completely. I beat his Metaknight with my Ness, and then he starts blaming it on the stage, saying my Ness isn't good (I almost had a laughter attack hearing that rubbish, and soon after his criticisms which is useless to me- sorry). So, he picked the bland stage that is Smashville, and at that point, I just didn't try anymore. He won, and then he starts gloating (mind you, his Metaknight isn't impressive to me because I've played an MK like that plenty of times...)

Find it pretty troubling how people change like that... And the fact he's so far up his ***, it's crazy. Sad we aren't friends anymore. Then again, it's whatever to me. If you take the game too seriously, start disrespecting for no good cause, you're cut. And this isn't the only time where I beat someone's MK with my Ness and they had an overreaction to the situation.

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shingi_70

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zezzy wrote:

shingi_70 wrote:

and that's not fun at all.

Maybe it's not fun to you, who says it's not to other people? I for one enjoy grinding all day in RPGs, I'm sure a lot of people don't find that too fun. Funness is relative :O

I meant that its boring in comparison to the way the game is supposed to play.

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Adam

59. Posted:

The game has options; it is meant to be played however you want.

General comments: Tiers reflect which characters are best with people who play in national tournaments. Your mileage can and will vary. It can't be wrong based on anyone's experience here because it has nothing to do with your personal experience. I just wanted to show what people who are good at the game think of Pit. You can beat all the Metaknights you know; you haven't beaten any of these.

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SamuraiShyGuy

60. Posted:

Pit is just a middle-of-the-road character. Not great, but not bad either. He's completely outclassed by Metaknight, who has a similar playstyle yet is better in almost every way. Pit will never be banned in a tournament setting.

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