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kereke12

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Should Satoru Iwata get fired? Since the recent NPD's numbers of PS4 and Xbox One the PS4 sold over 7 million units and Xbox one sold 5 million units. (Correct me If I'm wrong with the Xbox). I see that the Wii U hasn't been doing good AT ALL. The recent Wii U sales are the same as February, hasn't really changed and the recent sales of the PS vita going up and 3DS down. Had me thinking. Should Satoru Iwata get fired? It appears that Nintendo doesn't give 2 Bleep about (either Nintendo itself) Wii U. Because its basically been a year and no changes AT ALL. Still the same business model with Nintendo, No marketing from them absolutely nothing. All I see is Xbox and more PS4. Then Wii U or 3DS.

So I was watching a video on Youtube **Look up "Reviewtechusa"** and you'll see what I'm talking about. He makes a **Bleep** good point on why Iwata should get fired.... Here's why. Did you know that Satoru Iwata approval rating has dropped over the past 3 YEARS IN A ROW! (That basically investers wanted him gone) But for some reason he's still the president? Anyways he mentions that if coming June (Correct me if I'm wrong) when ALLLL investers come and meet for there meeting and decided to fire him because of his failure......It will be a good thing for Nintendo sake. Because Nintendo needs a fresh set of new minds someone who isn't afraid to go out and make something new and you know what? I agree with him 1,000,000,000% with him. Because we need some fresh set of minds not always Mario this Mario that always the same thing everytime.

So my question to ya'll is Should Iwata get fired and replaced with someone new who isn't afraid to go out there and explore? Yes or No ... and before you even say anything. Go watch the video then come back and tell me yes or no?
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terrible thread

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CDBz

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No, do not fire Satoru Iwata, he is just having a rough patch. If you remember correctly he was the leader over the golden age of Nintendo, the DS and the Wii were two of the best selling systems of all time!

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SuperZelda64

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If the electors choose another president, they'll just choose someone who'll put their games on mobile.... I think I'm fine with Satoru Iwata now LOL

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Jazzer94

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Xbox One shipped 5 million not sold.

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Jazzer94

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Reviewtechusa is garbage that relies on erotic thumbnails and stupid news stories to attract views.

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Dreamz

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I've seen a lot of ReviewTechUSA's videos, and while he's usually entertaining, he's also a massive flamebaiter. So definitely take everything he says with a grain of salt and and an ounce of objectivity.

As for Iwata....I don't believe so. Nintendo's course isn't guided by just one person. It's the company as a whole that has problems, not just Iwata. The investors were fine with him a few years ago when the Wii was printing money, but now they're yelling for blood since the boom has burst. Investors should be ignored on general principle anyways - their goal is for Nintendo to make money, regardless of how fun or interesting the games and systems are.

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Double_Yeti

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Nintendo needs broader cultural change. Firing Iwata isn't going to solve their problems...

They seriously baffle me though. On the one hand, they're capable of putting out the best games on the market at WILL...yet most everything else is a total shambles....from the console itself, to the advertising, messaging, 3rd party support and the 1st party software lineup. How it has taken them a year and a half into the new console generation to get 1 of their 4 key pillar 1st party titles out I will never know (3d World, as good as it is doesn't count as a mainline 3D entry).. It's 2014, and Nintendo are still struggling to adapt to HD technology?!

How is it you come up with a supposedly 'revolutionary' new way of playing games (i.e. the gamepad) and don't actually provide any adequate software to show it off....and they wonder why no one's buying the console..

Funny thing is, I think they can still turn it around this gen. Maybe not make the Wii U a mainstream hit like the Wii...but a console with a small but high quality library and respectable lifetime sales. I think you're going to see some interesting software experiments in the next 2-3 years. Nintendo now know they need to evolve to survive (as opposed to simply cashing in on past glories) ...which will probably translate into numerous 'smaller scale' software experiments in order to find 1 or 2 things that 'stick'. If Nintendo are serious about staying in the home console market, then the next 2-3 years might actually turn out to be an advantageous time to own one of their consoles..

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SCAR392

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I'm pretty sure there are plenty of threads like this already, and they're all terrible. Only Nintendo knows what's going on at Nintendo.

Even so, we have to ask who would replace him, and why.

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Azooooz

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I would vote for Sakurai to be the new CEO of Nintendo, but that's not going to happen.

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Dreamz

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Not to mention, firing him would be very premature. We have at least two blockbusters arriving this year, and we have a plethora of fantastic games from smaller and indie devs coming down the pipeline. There's been lots of griping about Nintendo's failure to secure 3rd party support, but I would be perfectly happy without it so long as indie devs and smaller studios (like Ubisoft Montreal) are churning out great titles. I imagine that this could potentially be rather profitable for Nintendo as well. They get games for their system, licensing fees from all of these devs, and the lower price point these games tend to have can result in higher sales number, even if the PPU is lower.

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Double_Yeti

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Dreamz wrote:

Not to mention, firing him would be very premature. We have at least two blockbusters arriving this year, and we have a plethora of fantastic games from smaller and indie devs coming down the pipeline. There's been lots of griping about Nintendo's failure to secure 3rd party support, but I would be perfectly happy without it so long as indie devs and smaller studios (like Ubisoft Montreal) are churning out great titles. I imagine that this could potentially be rather profitable for Nintendo as well. They get games for their system, licensing fees from all of these devs, and the lower price point these games tend to have can result in higher sales number, even if the PPU is lower.

I can get those indie games on my PC though... Yeah, the 1st party lineup looks solid in the near future...but, that gamepad is a $100 dollar dead weight as far as im concerned atm. Until Miyamoto or someone else shows off how it can change gameplay for the better, it's hard to see why your average person would want to buy in..

To what extent Iwata is responsible for hardware decisions like the wii u gamepad, and software management in general i don't know..

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UGXwolf

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I wonder. Is it really such a hard concept to grasp? Things take time, and that goes double for a company like Nintendo that has to rely primarily on its reputation and 1st party to get any real work done. The painful fact is, Nintendo is doing all it can to change the fortunes of the Wii U. If we haven't seen a drastic change by the end of this year (2014), then we likely won't see one ever. This by NO means implies that Iwata should be fired.

Going back to something some guy from Sony pointed out. We're really quick to forget success. The Wii and DS collectively had the best gaming generation of all time. The 3DS is floating along just fine. Three successful systems, and we're already going to jump down Iwata's throat and declare he should be fired for (not even a bad console) one awful console launch? I agree entirely, when Sony's PR says Iwata should be allowed to fail. Even if they're only saying it to cover their own butts should worst come to worst. Nintendo doesn't make the stuff we love them for by being safe and following industry standards. They sacrifice what they think is unnecessary to add what they think could set them apart from all the rest, and it usually ends pretty well.

Step back. Have a little faith. If all else fails, Nintendo WILL learn from their mistakes and make success, in the future. They always seem to do it in one way or another.

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Peach64

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It's impossible to know wether things would get better or worse under someone new, but it's almost at a point where you can't imagine it getting much worse. The Wii U is now at the same stage of it's life as the Dreamcast was when it got pulled, and the Wii U is way down on it's numbers. It's not just struggling a bit, it's a disaster from a sales perspective. The 3DS has had a couple of good years, but it's sales are dropping off hugely too, struggling to sell even half what it had done at the same stage last year. We all know Nintendo has plenty of money in the bank, but companies aren't happy to take year after year of losses just because they have a big cash reserve.

I think he'll be given more time, long enough to get this QOL initiative going, but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed in that. It's not aimed at gamers. It's Nintendo moving into another market, like they did when they went from playing cards to all those other endeavours, trying to find something that made them rich.

The only person even connected to Nintendo that seems to understand their traditional fan base right now is Masahiro Sakurai. I don't even like Smash Bros that much, but I loved the Smash Direct because he so clearly got the mindset of the fans that buy his game. I'd love to see more people like that involved in big decisions, rather than all this focus on Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Karaoke. The thing is, they definitely could turn it around. There's a lot of big name Japanese developers out there right now that have kind of being pushed out of the industry. Nintendo COULD get them all on board and start a big drive for traditional games. They won't make as much money as a smash hit mobile or casual game, but the different is the traditional gamer is loyal. They keep buying software. A huge number of that Wii audience just had Wii Sports and Wii Fit, and they have zero interest in upgrading to a Wii U, not because Nintendo messed it up, but because they don't have that mindset of moving onto the next console.

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Rin-go

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I agree with @SCAR392 .

Threads about firing, improving, scrapping etc. appear every other week and if not then these topics are discussed to hell on articles. Do we really need more of these?

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kkslider5552000

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3DS sales are down because everything that isn't PS4 is down, I don't think that's hard to grasp. Well that and the release schedule slowed down.

I mean it's still doing better than everything else, so that says more about gaming right now then Nintendo specifically.

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Double_Yeti

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UGXwolf wrote:

I wonder. Is it really such a hard concept to grasp? Things take time, and that goes double for a company like Nintendo that has to rely primarily on its reputation and 1st party to get any real work done. The painful fact is, Nintendo is doing all it can to change the fortunes of the Wii U. If we haven't seen a drastic change by the end of this year (2014), then we likely won't see one ever. This by NO means implies that Iwata should be fired.

Going back to something some guy from Sony pointed out. We're really quick to forget success. The Wii and DS collectively had the best gaming generation of all time. The 3DS is floating along just fine. Three successful systems, and we're already going to jump down Iwata's throat and declare he should be fired for (not even a bad console) one awful console launch? I agree entirely, when Sony's PR says Iwata should be allowed to fail. Even if they're only saying it to cover their own butts should worst come to worst. Nintendo doesn't make the stuff we love them for by being safe and following industry standards. They sacrifice what they think is unnecessary to add what they think could set them apart from all the rest, and it usually ends pretty well.

Step back. Have a little faith. If all else fails, Nintendo WILL learn from their mistakes and make success, in the future. They always seem to do it in one way or another.

The wii might have been enormously successful (and with some decent games), but it was a rubbish platform from a gamer's perspective... that was mainly geared to the very people who've long ago migrated to smartphones, tablets and other forms of entertainment.

There's a difference between being an innovator and blindly chasing the next fad, and forgoing all you previously stood for.. Despite the fact Nintendo still put out high quality 1st party efforts, I think they are reaping what they sowed in some respect by burning bridges with gamers last gen.

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Peach64

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The only thing that are down are machines that have been replaced. 360 and PS3 have both been replaced by their successors, so obviously they will go down. Vita is UP on last year's numbers. I could understand a small drop in 3DS numbers, but down by half? 3DS numbers are good, not saying they're bad at all, but we already know Nintendo was disappointed with 2013's numbers. People keep saying it's unfair to compare it to the DS numbers, and while I don't really agree with that, it's not even being compared to DS right now. It's probably not going to surpass the Gameboy or GBA numbers, and again there's no shame in that because they both sold huge amounts, but why does the 3DS keep getting referred to as some record breaking monster hit, when it will probably end up as Nintendo's lowest selling handheld by the time it's done?

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kkslider5552000

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Well the gamers that wanted to play increasingly subpar COD sequels over Little King's Story are no friend of mine.

Also as long as 3DS is doing well enough, I'd be surprised if it has a short enough lifespan to not do better than GBA.

also people calling QOL an example of Nintendo getting out of gaming is confusing. It's pretty blatantly just a way for Nintendo to go after an audience that has moved on from Wii but is still totally a big audience worth caring about. And way smarter than trying to make Wii U some weird half-innovative mix of Wii and Xbox 360 at the same time (in terms of what games it was trying to attract). I mean those people frequently ignored that Wii was even a Nintendo product, so it's certainly possible that will work out.

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Dreamz

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Double_Yeti wrote:

The wii might have been enormously successful (and with some decent games), but it was a rubbish platform from a gamer's perspective... that was mainly geared to the very people who've long ago migrated to smartphones, tablets and other forms of entertainment.

I don't think I can disagree more. We used to have a game night once per week at a friend's house. He had a PS3, a 360, and a Wii. I'm not sure we ever turned on the PS3 and 360. If we weren't playing tabletop games, we would play the Wii. And a large part of the reason I grabbed a Wii U was because it was backwards compatible, meaning I could go back and pick up many of the Wii games that I wanted to play but never had the chance.

Just because the system's games weren't to your tastes, doesn't mean it was rubbish. And I have trouble even believing that's the case, given how large the Wii's library is.

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