I respect nintendo in fact i debate with my friends on why nintendo will be the last gaming company and their uniqueness is one of them. another is that they are always the first to be original example smash bros 10 years later we start to see people copying their idea so nintendo is my favorite in my opinion.I think xbox is nothing but shooting games or racing games so i don't want one. I have a ps3 but i don't play it as much. Nintendo is always unique and different which is why i play their games and systems the most.
Opinions can only be respected when supported by 1st party facts or personal experience.
The overwhelming majority of people with negative opinions know next to nothing other than hearsay, that is they neither own nor have spent time playing the console- that's not how opinions worth respecting should be based.
Show me someone who has bought a fully functioning Wii U and has no intrinsic home internet issues who can articulate specifically everything that it is they don't like and there will be an opinion worth respecting...
Your expectations are flawed. Someone who invests in a product and finds that the product works as expected is never going to be critical of the entire experience. For that to happen the would have had to have no interest in the product in the first place, and would never have purchased it.
And so, in an effort to dismiss criticism against this product that you have clearly developed an emotional attachment to (and so are an unreliable source of information yourself) you have demanded an impossible case study.
It's not a solid foundation to hold a debate over.
What a load of bull. It's a perfectly reasonable to only consider the opinions of people who have spent time with a product as valid. There is no value in an opinion from someone who has no experience with or worse yet is trying to justify their own purchases by criticising the alternatives.
And no, this is not an impossible case study. It's very, very simple. Show the console to one of your gamer friends or relatives, preferably a PC gamer, and see what they think. Assuming they are neither overly attached to the console or it's competitors you can easily find one of these people. They will give a balanced opinion.
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
Opinions can only be respected when supported by 1st party facts or personal experience.
The overwhelming majority of people with negative opinions know next to nothing other than hearsay, that is they neither own nor have spent time playing the console- that's not how opinions worth respecting should be based.
Show me someone who has bought a fully functioning Wii U and has no intrinsic home internet issues who can articulate specifically everything that it is they don't like and there will be an opinion worth respecting...
Your expectations are flawed. Someone who invests in a product and finds that the product works as expected is never going to be critical of the entire experience. For that to happen the would have had to have no interest in the product in the first place, and would never have purchased it.
And so, in an effort to dismiss criticism against this product that you have clearly developed an emotional attachment to (and so are an unreliable source of information yourself) you have demanded an impossible case study.
It's not a solid foundation to hold a debate over.
What a load of bull. It's a perfectly reasonable to only consider the opinions of people who have spent time with a product as valid. There is no value in an opinion from someone who has no experience with or worse yet is trying to justify their own purchases by criticising the alternatives.
And no, this is not an impossible case study. It's very, very simple. Show the console to one of your gamer friends or relatives, preferably a PC gamer, and see what they think. Assuming they are neither overly attached to the console or it's competitors you can easily find one of these people. They will give a balanced opinion.
Like hell. If someone is not interested in a console, then the reasons they are not interested in it can still be perfectly valid. I don't need to own a fishing boat to know I have no interest in fishing boats. Being allergic to fish makes it a largely pointless purchase.
People who have no interest with the Wii U, because they're happy with their existing consoles, because the Wii U lineup doesn't appeal to them, or many other reasons have legitimate opinions. Deal with it, but no it doesn't necessarily mean those people 'hate Nintendo' or 'hate innovation' or 'want doom an gloom' or whatever other high school politics you'd like to try and apply to them.
Like hell. If someone is not interested in a console, then the reasons they are not interested in it can still be perfectly valid. I don't need to own a fishing boat to know I have no interest in fishing boats. Being allergic to fish makes it a largely pointless purchase.
But you don't go around on boat forums complaining about how boats are crap, fishing is boring. If you went on a boat forum and started to talk about how game hunting was more fun and rabbit meat was tastier anyway... they'd rightly say you had no idea what you were talking about. If you haven't experienced the thing in question your criticisms lack credibility. If you have a reason not to experience it your criticisms are even LESS credible because you are not criticising but are instead trying to justify your situation.
People who have no interest with the Wii U, because they're happy with their existing consoles, because the Wii U lineup doesn't appeal to them, or many other reasons have legitimate opinions. Deal with it, but no it doesn't necessarily mean those people 'hate Nintendo' or 'hate innovation' or 'want doom an gloom' or whatever other high school politics you'd like to try and apply to them.
I didn't say any of those things I was simply saying that if they hadn't experienced it their criticisms lack credibility. I don't understand how the concept is that hard for you to accept. If you haven't seen the movie, read the book, listened to the album or played the game you're in no place to say it's crap. If you have a legitimate reason to not experience it your criticisms are even less credible.
Does this create a situation where no criticism is accepted? I don't think so. As I said there are easy ways to find out what a non-committed third party thinks of it. Find either someone who's committed to all or committed to none and work out what they think. Find a PC gamer who sometimes dabbles in console gaming for the local multi and see what they think.
.......... and High School politics? What was all that about? A cheap shot? If you want to bring politics into it then why not go a bit grander? Look at what one side of the fanboy spectrum on that debate think when their party comes up with an idea. Then look at what they think when their opponents say the exact same thing. In the same way as the console fanboy these people are committed to a party in this case emotionally. This gives their opinions less credibility not more.
there are easy ways to find out what a non-committed third party thinks of it. Find either someone who's committed to all or committed to none and work out what they think. Find a PC gamer who sometimes dabbles in console gaming for the local multi and see what they think.
@OP Well, it happens. Nintendo may not have a psychology similar to that of the console competition, and not everybody will understand that. There are people who perceive in a narrow lens (kinda like ethnocentrism), which is fair and understandable. I wouldn't invest in a product I don't know much about. And if I were largely ignorant of the company, only able to perceive them through the mouths of people on some anti-Nintendo forum, I wouldn't want to buy their products either. But alas, it's up to Nintendo and the video game press to address this kind of issue.
Who ever said they didn't like Wii U? Haha. I used to play PC games when I was 10, do I count as a PC gamer still? Oh ya, go download Deadly Rooms of Death(DROD), and the original music sountrack for the game in a zip file, and tell me what you think. I'm serious. Go download DROD. It's free BTW...
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This seems like a topic I would've made. My brother was arguing how the Xbox 360 is better than the Wii U with my cousin backing him up. I just had to sit there and here them talk about it.........
This seems like a topic I would've made. My brother was arguing how the Xbox 360 is better than the Wii U with my cousin backing him up. I just had to sit there and here them talk about it.........
You should mention the Red Ring of Death to them
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This seems like a topic I would've made. My brother was arguing how the Xbox 360 is better than the Wii U with my cousin backing him up. I just had to sit there and here them talk about it.........
You should mention the Red Ring of Death to them
Just remember kids! Make sure your console is off first! To fix the red ring of death, replace the heat aborbers on the chips that have apparently fried, with pennies wrapped in electrical tape, that have a touch of super glue on the side that will touch the chip! Your not done yet! Replug in your Xbox 360! You have to put your Xbox 360 under a blanket. It needs to go to sleep! When it(is done sleeping!) overheats, unplug your Xbox 360! Replug in your Xbox 360, will work again! Yah!
This seems like a topic I would've made. My brother was arguing how the Xbox 360 is better than the Wii U with my cousin backing him up. I just had to sit there and here them talk about it.........
You should mention the Red Ring of Death to them
Just remember kids! To fix the red ring of death, replace the heat aborbers on the chips that have apparently fried, with pennies, and a touch of super glue! Your not done yet! You have to put your Xbox 360 under a blanket(it needs to go to sleep!), and when it(is done sleeping!) overheats, your Xbox will work again!
Saw it on Youtube...
Does this work with the PS3?
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This seems like a topic I would've made. My brother was arguing how the Xbox 360 is better than the Wii U with my cousin backing him up. I just had to sit there and here them talk about it.........
You should mention the Red Ring of Death to them
This would have been apt had the debate occurred a few years ago. Haven't heard that brought up in discussion in forever.
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I actually just edited that comment to be more clear, but I have no clue if it works for PS3. If it has the same heat absorber issue, than it should fix it the same way.
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Did anyone look into the DROD(Deadly Rooms of Death) game I suggested? It was made in 1995 or 6, and used to be a full retail game for $30, but is free on their site now. They've made sequels w/ RPG elements, but those cost money still. It's better than Bejeweled 3, Peggle, or any of those 'popular' games(IMO).
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It seems you can't respect opinions that differ from your own. Who cares what other people say about Nintendo? Play the games you want to play and don't worry what others think.
I don't know how you reached that conclusion. If the opinion that I don't respect is that Nintendo should be like the other companies, then you are correct.
I am 34, and if I overwhelmingly cared about what people said, I would have ditched Nintendo.
People want innovation and when Sony and MS do it, it's awesome but when Nintendo do it, it's stupid and gimmicky. I have friends who laughed at the Wiimote but bought a PS Move and commended Sony for it.
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