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TheDreamingHawk

21. Posted:

I hope so. I just want the wii U to power on and you know, not overheat (Though apparently it has like 10X more internal fans working than on the wii.)

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ShadJV

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TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I hope so. I just want the wii U to power on and you know, not overheat (Though apparently it has like 10X more internal fans working than on the wii.)

If it did overheat, that wouldn't be the fault of the cables. The first batch of a console has a higher rate of having technical problems, but hopefully the Wii U won't have that. Nintendo makes good hardware, my only Nintendo game systems that ever actually broke was my Wii and that was this summer (and I got it at launch), the motherboard went. Yet when I bought a 360, I got the red ring in one week, then got it replaced only to have a second one not even work out of the box, having to return that one for a third. Point being, Nintendo hardware tends to be fairly reliable, it should not overheat.

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TheDreamingHawk

23. Posted:

Hopefully the wii U won't have a red ring esque problem.

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TheDreamingHawk wrote:

Please help clarify on this, I'm a little worried.

But in the unboxing videos for the wii U, I never see that red, yellow, white cable thingy that comes with the wii and all of the other old systems... Just an HDMI cable. I don't have an HD TV of any kind and have no interest in getting one... So can someone please tell me how the wii U would work on older TVs? I don't wanna buy my wii u only to not have it hook up to my TV due to the lack of a Red, Yellow, White cable thingy...

the pack does not come with the composite cables, however the one that came with the wii will work , and you can buy a new cable for the wiiu...

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Tasuki

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TheDreamingHawk wrote:

ShadJV wrote:

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During the holidays, I know for sure you can get fairly decent sized HD TV for just a little more than the price of 2 360 or PS3 games. Worth it? I think so :)

True, especially if you are willing to brave the Black Friday crowds. HDTVs already have gotten fairly cheap, I saw a fairly big one on sale at Best Buy the other day for only $250. A smaller one is even cheaper, and if you go black Friday I wouldn't be surprised if you could find one for around $100.

Of course, if your budget is tight enough that you can barely afford the Wii U, I suppose that isn't much help. Still, you should be fine with a standard definition TV, even if you don't see the games as pretty as they could be.

One problem: The only people that could take me to the store on black friday don't want to go.

You can always shop online than you dont have to go anywhere and just sit at home and have a new tv delivered to you.

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TheDreamingHawk

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Any sites where they would sell it for the MSRP?

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Tasuki

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Any sites where they would sell it for the MSRP?

I would check Amazon, or even places like Best Buy.com, Target.com etc. They usually have crazy sales on TVs this time of the year. And if you miss getting one or dont have the money now, TVs also go on sale around the end of January and beginning of February due to the Super Bowl.

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Nitendnut

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No offense but you really should upgrade your tv. HDTV's are pretty cheap compared to what they used to be. I just cant see why someone would want to hook up an HD system like Wii U on anything but an HDTV!? I might settle for a component hook up if you have that on your older tv. But anything less you may as well just play a 480p Wii.

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TheAmazingRaccoon

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I have the same problem and it comes down to cost. At the moment HD tvs could be $100 and I still wouldn't be able to get one. All my money is going towards my wiiu preorder and I am not going to be able to pay it off for months.
Still, I can play HD when I visit my mum.

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Nitendnut

30. Posted:

Yikes I'd buy a $199.00 32" HDTV before I buy a Wii U for $299.00...i'm just sayin......

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Edwin

31. Posted:

Does anyone know if the HDMI cable that came with the Wii U will work for a PS3? Thanks.

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Emblem

32. Posted:

Edwin wrote:

Does anyone know if the HDMI cable that came with the Wii U will work for a PS3? Thanks.

Yes, its a universal HDMI cable.

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PloXyZeRO

33. Posted:

Even if you don't want an HDTV, I would at least recommend getting a 1080p monitor. They're much cheaper and often have far less input lag. I often switch between my 65'' TV in my living room and a 21" monitor that I have on my table when I need to play games where you need accurate timing (like one of the minigames in Kirby Super Star, or Smash Bros. for example), because my monitor has a couple of milliseconds of input delay, while my TV has close to 60.

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Emblem

34. Posted:

PloXyZeRO wrote:

Even if you don't want an HDTV, I would at least recommend getting a 1080p monitor. They're much cheaper and often have far less input lag. I often switch between my 65'' TV in my living room and a 21" monitor that I have on my table when I need to play games where you need accurate timing (like one of the minigames in Kirby Super Star, or Smash Bros. for example), because my monitor has a couple of milliseconds of input delay, while my TV has close to 60.

I play almost exclusively on my monitor and i agree its a viable alternate option to a HDTV. The only (minor) issue is that you will also need a HDMI audio splitter unless your monitor has built in speakers.

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SCAR392

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@Emblem
Or an audio receiver. I was actually looking into a monitor and an audio receiver before I had my current setup.
I didn't have enough money for a good monitor and a good surround sound system(it was more than I wanted to pay for such small improvements), but I did have enough for an HDTV and good sound setup.

It's just easier to have separate devices that all hook-up together. TV speakers usually ALWAYS sound like s***. I haven't heard any good sounding TV speakers ever, after hearing a separate audio device handle the sound.

EDIT: Even if you don't have a more recent sound setup, I still recommend getting at least a stereo system. TV speakers don't hold up to basically any separate sound system, even if it's an older model.

I've gotten free/cheap receivers that were always worth hooking up over just using the TV speakers.

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PloXyZeRO

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My monitor does have speakers but they're pretty bad. It does have a 3.5mm jack though, so I just hooked up some computer speakers to it (Logitech X-230s). I don't know if they sell those anymore, but I also have Logitech X-530s, which are the surround sound version of the 230s, and can function as just stereo speakers as well. The Cyber Acoustics CA-3602s are also good speakers (especially for the price).

I really don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a receiver and "high-end" speakers, so I just use the speakers I listed above for all the TVs/computers in my house, since they're all sub-$100.

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NeoZuko

37. Posted:

Figured I'd just share all my tech knowledge research in one spot :-)

I just ordered the Offical Nintendo Wii Component Cable here:

http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDi...

I did this because the Wii U unlike the PS3 can't output analog sound from the multi port while doing HDMI video... This is key to my current 23" Dell PC monitor / analog audio PC speakers gaming setup. And seeing as they don't have a separate digital out, and most HDTVs are not really set up that well for an audio out, it's also key to everyone that does not want crappy HDTV audio. Or hell, even use an Astro headphone mix amp. So where does that leave you?

For starters, unlike HDMI (which are all digital and have no real quality difference between them - they either work or do not work), not all component cables are of equal quality picture and sound. It's been reported that the offical Nintendo brand produces the best consistent results for the money. And are most likely the best purchase anyway. Then there is the fact that the Wii HDMI, while decent, looks washed out compared to the Wii's analog 1080p component output and the PS3's HDMI. The HDMi is a smidgen sharper than analog however. Some say that the Component cables produce a better overall picture from the Wii U but that is also tied to how well your display imports that component channel. Plus the Wii U (despite listing them only as 480p Wii component cables - a hold over description from the Wii days) should fully do 1080p over those anaolog compnent cables and some say even 1080p up sampling for old games. Not sure on the up sampling... But it could be that the HDMI does not while the component does. It has to do with the analog scaler chip, the digital HDMI side is most likely a separate animal. Testing would have to be done to know for sure despite Nintendo's claims of the old games running at original resolution... Sure. But output resolution is different than running/processing resolution. And digital may be different than analog in this case.

Alternatively, mono price has some nice looking HDMI switchers with digital and analog outputs that pull from the HDMI sources:

Digital out for multi HDMI sources:

http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&am...

Analog out for multi HDMI sources:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp...

Note that 3D sources may work on some of these and not on others and that these may in fact add a bit of lag, again testing is needed to know for sure.

So in the end I decided the best cheapest way was to go component over HDMI for my Wii, but down the line I'd like to get an amp or stereo setup that switches and converts enough HDMI sources so that I only have to hit a switch on my amp.

If also should be noted that GameCube component cables are listed as not compatible with Wii on Component... Hmmmm. Something with the multiport design change I guess, I was under the impression it was the same port.

Also you may or may not find it useful that this can switch your analog audio sources:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0001F347K/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1...

Also my Dell U2312HM is 1080p native, no scaling needed so no added input lag, low lag to begin with, much lower than most TVs, and if you do scale its fast even still, extremly fast, 720 doubles nicely into 1080p BTW, but the 480p scaling blows every HDTV out of the water, Mario actually jumps WHEN I hit the button unlike my experience with an LG HDTV I had, the dell can put a 720p image full screen or a 4:3 image full screen with bars, can import HDMI through the DVI port (no sound) with a simple HDMI to DVI cable and componet video threw the VGA port with a simple VGA to Componet adapter, plus it has a spare display port for your PC, all no processing or conversion, is a standard Gammet E-IPS monitor (good for color (rgb for PC or YPBPR aka componet or blu ray or DVD) from video game sources and good for colorful wide viewing angles - and the EIPS screen is cheap to make). The USB hub comes in handy, the unit adjusts all kinds of ways for a eyes level experience, and looks great. I wish it was bigger but it's the best $250 I've ever spent on any display. Add a set of powered speakers, I have the Corsair SP2500, and its the best cheap awesome setup you could ever hope to use.

Edit: bless my heart it's 205 dollars on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005LN1JEC/ref=s9_bbs_awgw_d0_g...

Which is nice as amazon will accept returns no questions asked just in case you get a faulty unit (Dell always has a percentage of bad eggs say, as small as that can be)

While I am saving for a Killer "low lag" HDTV (which is harder to find than you may think - most do little for keeping the input lag low - even with "game modes" - it's a really bad problem). Well, I don't want to game on a 23" Dell monitor forever, no matter how great it is for the money. Need me some 50+" screen for those HD graphics to breath!!

All research points to this Sony Unit here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AWKBZ0M/ref=aw_ls_1_8?colid=...

Sad that the best movie HDTV is never the best Gaming HDTV, but this unit is amazing on low lag and has a very very decent movie experience too. Only Con is price. Which is actually a good problem to have in a way as sadly with input lag, spending more usually only makes it worse as they keep adding more bells and whistles that induce lag... This is a high end tv that's actually good for gaming input lag, a rarity - sweetness
Further reading links:

http://m.cnet.com/news/game-mode-on-cnet-tests-tvs-for-input-...

And the many but useful thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/search/newsearch/search?search=Wii+u&...

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38. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I hope so. I just want the wii U to power on and you know, not overheat (Though apparently it has like 10X more internal fans working than on the wii.)

How about you add external fans too?

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39. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

ShadJV wrote:

HawkeyeWii wrote:

During the holidays, I know for sure you can get fairly decent sized HD TV for just a little more than the price of 2 360 or PS3 games. Worth it? I think so :)

True, especially if you are willing to brave the Black Friday crowds. HDTVs already have gotten fairly cheap, I saw a fairly big one on sale at Best Buy the other day for only $250. A smaller one is even cheaper, and if you go black Friday I wouldn't be surprised if you could find one for around $100.

Of course, if your budget is tight enough that you can barely afford the Wii U, I suppose that isn't much help. Still, you should be fine with a standard definition TV, even if you don't see the games as pretty as they could be.

One problem: The only people that could take me to the store on black friday don't want to go. I don't really want an HDTV anyway, what I mean by the worry that it may not perform well, is that I'm worried it would cause crashes with the wii cord.

It works fine I had to take my Wii U to my dads and he wouldn't let me hook it up to his plasma for whatever reason so luckily I bought my av cables and I hooked it up to his standard box tv and it worked fine all weekend no problems.

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CatMarioUltra

40. Posted:

Here's exactly what you should do:
1.) Get in with the times and buy an HD TV. You'll have to eventually, and it'll be worth it..
2.) Buy a Wii U and enjoy it. I recommend: NSMBU and NSLU, Pikmin 3, Nintendo Land, Lego City Undercover, Bit Trip Runner 2, Monster Hunter Ultimate 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, Mighty Switch Force: Hyper Drive Edition, Cloudberry Kingdom, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, and Toki Tori 2.

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