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SuperJoon

@WebHead Yup, exactly and that's what needs to change. They need to realise that there is more to the world than couch play.

Playing online with friends between houses is the most prefered play these days. Yes, playing with family and friends is still as important, but to most gamers, playing online is better.

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Therad

Grumblevolcano wrote:

They would've been better off just keeping the online free while letting retro games and the option to buy special controllers be its own subscription service like Xbox Game Pass.

But less people would subscribe then... The whole point is bundling different services together so they can coherce people to pay. It is a bad practice whichever way you look at it.

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WebHead

@Therad exactly. The retro games are what you are really paying for. Nintendo is locking online MP with it to force people to subscribe. Which is scummy imo and part of why I refuse to pay for the service

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Grumblevolcano

@Therad The vast majority of Switch Online complaints though are to do with the retro side of things (no SNES, N64, GC, etc.). Not that the online services are outdated by 2005 standards.

The complaints at least make it seem like ditching the paid online side of the subscription and having a better selection of games would lead to a more successful subscription.

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AlohaPizzaJack

@WebHead Yeah, it’s almost like they think competitors charge for multi, too.

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WebHead

@JackEatsSparrows they do too but their are loads more benefits such as steeper discounts, free games, etc. PS3, Vita and Wii U had better online than switch for free.

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GrailUK

@WebHead Sony and Microsoft both wish they had Nintendo's attachment rate. Why would you charge folk $60 a year for all your content, when most spend way over that in a year. Switch software sales are nuts. You would literally have to be stupid to offer a subscription service lol. They basically have given themselves the same revenue stream MS and Sony gave themselves with which they built up their online. Granted Nintendo are behind, but it would be foolish to think they aren't going to invest in infrastructure. So, we are paying for online (in line with everyone else) without having to pay extra for some rotated free games. NES seems a nice balance as most folk are happy to just have access to them without paying for them. Maybe SNES will be next. Will be interesting to see how sustainable Microsft's game pass is if they take first place next gen with so many wanting a piece of the pie.

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WebHead

@GrailUK well still if Nintendo refuse to take online seriously I refuse to pay for their online service. Plain and simple.

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GrailUK

@WebHead It's ok to not be an early adopter

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AlohaPizzaJack

@WebHead You must have had a different experience than I. When PS3 came out and the multiplayer was free, it was trash and PSN was hit with huge chunks of downtime. There was more "service maintenance" than the DS has had stability updates. That's not even including the massive data breach fiasco. Then everyone got mad when PSN became a paid service, shouting the same things people are now about Switch "It used to be free; It's free on PC; Microsoft has party chat and PSN doesn't but wants money".
Free games and discounts weren't even a thing till late in XBL/PSN life cycles, either. They didn't just show up. Having been an XBL subscriber for 9 years, I can say from personal experience that it's been a loooong road to the amazing feature set it is now. And you get what you pay for, XBL/PSN offer more and cost more. The few times I played Smash 4 on WiiU this year always had lag and the shop took forever. WiiU currently has horrid online.

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WebHead

@JackEatsSparrows they at leas thad basic features. But fine have fun getting ripped off.

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PikPi

I really don't think Nintendo is gonna "invest in the infrastructure". Everything is going to remain P2P (like the other 2, idk why people think Nintendo would be the first to actually use the sub money to improve their online capabilities) and I would honestly be surprised if they updated it to include anything as basic as messaging. I would rather have paid for the Wii U's online, at least miiverse was a surprisingly fun batch of content. Best we can hope for is they add in more than NES games, but with the stupid rate they release old content at, it'll be a while before the service gets anything worthwhile, "free" game wise.

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AlohaPizzaJack

@WebHead Don't take it harsh, I'm just sharing my experience with the other products. It's not a cult, you don't have to buy anything you don't see value in.
I don't feel I'm getting ripped with NSO, though. It's less than half a retail game, good for the year, and I've got some NES games too. I'm thankful it's cheap for what it is, though. Now the onus is gonna be on Nintendo once all the yearly subs come due next September

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darkfenrir

Actually if you manage to wrangle 7 randoms / friends for it, you can pay as little as $4-5 / year which is... still quite a chump change even over here.

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Grumblevolcano

If I had to rank the online services per platform, I'd go with (best to worst):

  • XB1 (XBL)
  • 360 (XBL)
  • Switch (Before Nintendo Switch Online)
  • Wii U (Nintendo Network)
  • 3DS (Nintendo Network)
  • PS4 (PSN)
  • Switch (Nintendo Switch Online)
  • Xbox (XBL)
  • PS3 (PSN)
  • PS2
  • Wii (Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection)
  • DS (Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection)

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3dg3d3m0n

For 20 quid a year, I really don't care if it changes at all, Id gladly pay that to play online, absolutely anything else is a bonus...
Really don't understand why the big fuss, I spend more on coffee each week...
Not dissing anyone, but after spending an hour catching up on here and reading all the angst over what direction the online service will go, chill and think how little 20 quid lasts nowadays, a whole year of online gaming seems good value to me...

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JaxonH

The cloud saves are worth the buy in to me. Obviously access to playing games online matters too, although I really don’t use online unless I’m playing Monster Hunter or the occasional Salmon Run in Splatoon 2. Played some Diablo 3 online too. And Dark Souls.

It is what it is. It’s a deficient service that really needs a messaging system. But I don’t think it’s the end of the world either like some people make it out to be. This horrible rip off that, oh my gosh it’s just SOOO bad... no. It’s not. Inasmuch that we’re paying for online, yes it’s a rip off, the same as it is on Sony and Microsoft. I don’t care how many “free rentals” they hand out. Old games that you can pick up for two dollars that you probably played five years ago anyways... I don’t even waste my hard drive space with those. At the end of the day you’re paying to play online. Everything else is a ruse to make you forget that fact. That’s why I don’t subscribe on other systems because I’m not going to pay 60 freaking dollars for it. I wouldn’t pay it on Nintendo either. The only reason I do is because it’s $20 and I really want those cloud saves, and occasionally use the online.

So yeah. Is it deficient? Yes. Does it annoy me with its limited feature set? Yes. Is it some horrible rip off that’s the worst thing in the world? No. Not everything has to be an extreme

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Therad

The problem is and always be that you are paying for a service that will always be worse than the free alternative.

If you have a bigger pool of people, matchmaking and finding hosts with better connections are easier. This translates to faster matchmaking as well as finding players at the right level for you. It is just simple math.

Therad

subpopz

JackEatsSparrows wrote:

I'm thankful it's cheap for what it is, though. Now the onus is gonna be on Nintendo once all the yearly subs come due next September

This is where I'm at. I threw $20 at it for the first year to see how it is and how it develops. Come September if it's the same lacking service with only a few more throwaway NES games, I likely won't renew. It's lacking even basic functionality to the point of not being a usable service (whats the point of a friends list when I can't easily communicate with them?) and I think giving them a year to add that basic functionality is more than fair.

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IceClimbers

How much will people riot if they add Game Boy games to the service next year rather than SNES?

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