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subpopz

NEStalgia wrote:

Also can't rule out the obvious possibility of "Nintendo switch online: powered up" premium subs for only $50/yr with more than nes games. Cynical, but very "in the now"

Which I would sign up for immediately. The NES Online isn't great. It's great in theory of being a service, but the delivery is awful, IMO. Sure, they're giving us what will amount to lots of games, but most aren't even the mediocre of the NES library let alone even being close to representing the best. They're throwaway titles (with a couple notable exceptions). When people talk of NES nostalgia, never do I hear of Ice Climbers coming up. Or Twin Bee or Tennis or Balloon Fight or most of any of the other ones.
I would gladly pay for a premium tier of the service that opened up access to the actual good NES games and libraries from other systems.

But here I am instead, emulating old SNES games on my laptop, wishing I could pay for and play them on my Switch. It's very frustrating.

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nintendobynature

@JaxonH yea i hear you..you bring up valid points. lt all just leaves me wanting more ya know. I've been playing all of these games since I could walk. I love them don't get me wrong but after a while, it becomes stale. I wouldn't mind star tropics one and two though. Hopefully they roll those out soon. Never finished 1 but really loved it from what I played.

On a separate note, I just preloaded onimusha..you more or less talked me into it 😆

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Therad

If I would be Nintendo I would announce SNES games right before the current crop of one year plans is up. That would make the most sense.

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toiletduck

@Therad If they don't I'll definitely cancel my subscription. It seems that I'm not that interested in the NES games for various reasons and I hardly ever play online.

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Grumblevolcano

3 games a month would take us to 66 by September which covers the vast majority of the Wii/Wii U VC library for NES and that's without taking things like Mega Man 1-6 not being part of the Switch service because the Legacy Collections exist into account. So unless they do something special like localizing Japan NES exclusives such as Genealogy of the Holy War or reduce the number of games per month, SNES is coming early 2020 at the absolute latest.

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Octane

@subpopz I think that's the problem. Offering a paid solution to a problem they have created themselves. That's something Ubisoft or EA does in their games; ''having difficulty gaining experience? too bad there isn't an easy difficulty in the game, here, buy this exp boost for $10!!!'' I really don't want to see that applied to Nintendo's service. It's what I feared though, at this point it's all about the 'free games', and not the online. People want better games, so they'll rise the price to accommodate for that. None of that has anything to do with their online infrastructure, and at that point they should just make the online free again. This applies to Sony and Microsoft as well.

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Grumblevolcano

@Octane It's not that applicable to Microsoft, their approach was start with an expensive service with basic functionality and then as time went on the price stayed the same but the amount of stuff that came with the service grew (the price has at the least been constant since I got a 360 in 2009). Sure part of that is likely to do with just how much they messed up with XB1 in 2013 but on the other hand I doubt the Switch would've existed the way it is now if Wii U was a success.

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Therad

@toiletduck look at speedruns and you soon realize what buggy messes those games really were. I did love them at the time, but they really haven't aged well.

SNES games though, I can still play those sometimes.

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Therad

@Grumblevolcano localizing content could be a way for them to prolong the wait for SNES. But if I am being cynical, I wouldn't be surprised if they will release junk games from now until the subs start expire and then release better titles.

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
Genealogy of the Holy War was a SNES game, FYI

Fire Emblem and Fire Emblem Gaiden were the NES games.

Fire Emblem Mystery of the Emblem, Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War and Fire Emblem Thracia 776 were the 3 games on SNES.

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DarthNocturnal

There was also the Archanea Saga on the SNES Bandai Satellaview, but that was more of a level pack then anything else. The DS remake included them as bonus chapters.

I wish we had gotten that remake. We'd only be missing Holy War, Thracia 776, and Binding Blade then.

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@DarthNocturnal
I don’t mind that we didn’t get FE12. I mean ya, I wish we’d have gotten it, for sure, but the fact it was a DS game means you have to play it on a DS, 3DS or PC emulator anyways, and you can play it in English on all three of those systems as is. So... we’re not really missing out.

I bet they continue the Echoes line of remakes. FE1, FE3, FE11 and FE12 are practically the same game though. FE11 is a remake of FE1 while FE12 is a remake of FE3, and FE3/12 include the story of FE1/11 as the first half of the story. So my guess is they’re not going to touch any of those games in the Echoes line, not for a while anyways.

My money is on Genealogy of the Holy War, followed by Thracia. Which I would be thrilled to see.

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subpopz

@Octane But that is the point and service I want to pay for. I want to pay for a Netflix type delivery service of retro games. The Online itself doesn't even need a monthly subscription. Most of it is peer-to-peer with no ongoing costs.
I get what you're saying, but that's not what I want. I don't want to pay for an Online service with a "free games" bonus as it is now; I want to pay for a full fledged, fully loaded retro-flix service, which can't happen as a "bonus" for a $20 a year online sub. If we want all the good AAA stuff from yesteryear, we will need to pay for it.
As a free bonus now, they're giving us throwaway games with a couple notable good ones (there's only so much they're going to give us as a free bonus for $20 a year). As a full fledged, separate service they can go all in with the big, good games.
But yes, Switch Online should have been left free and instead launched a subscription games service for all their legacy content. They want to be different and that sure would have been from the other 2 also charging monthly fees for peer-to-peer online access.

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DarthNocturnal

I'd prefer an official English release for New Mystery of the Emblem. It's not at all likely at this point, but you never know. Maybe they'll put the DS remakes of Books 1 & 2 in a compilation or something.

That said, I'm also expecting either the Jugdral games or Blinding Blade next. I'd prefer the latter. Because Roy.

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH Oops but anyway you get the point, NES isn't going to last multiple years unless Nintendo localizes Japan exclusives or reduces the number of NES games per month.

As for Fire Emblem remakes, I think they'll go for Binding Blade next because of the Smash effect. With Roy and Lucas brought back as DLC in Smash 4 and not cut from the roster in Ultimate, the Switch seems like perfect timing for their games to officially be released outside Japan. I think Binding Blade is a lot more likely than Mother 3 though, the continuation of FE remakes depended on Shadows of Valentia's sales meanwhile Mother 3 localization was nothing more than a Wii U rumour that never happened.

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
I’d be down for that. Honestly, I don’t really care which one they remake because they’re all good.

But I’d love to see the two Radiance games packaged as an HD Collection like Metroid Prime Trilogy (which I also hope to see). Would also love a Baten Kaitos HD Collection. And a Xenosaga Trilogy HD.

Man... there’s just so many good GameCube/Wii era games ripe for HD remastering.

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Octane

@subpopz In that case, I completely agree. Preferably they should give customers to option to buy the individual games as well, but that would be the cherry on top.

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