@Operative2-0
I think it has the potential. In terms of what it can do, I agree with Hideo Kojima: it shows us a glimpse of where video gaming and entertainment in general are going. (Note: I find it funny that all the core gamers, who used to worship Kojima like anything he touched turned to gold, are now suddenly saying they never cared for him or enjoyed his games after his recent very positive comments on the Switch. Hilarious.
The internet culture is like a study in current U.S. politics: "No, I never said that!" <looks at recorded document where, indeed, he said that.>
The only thing holding it back: Nintendo itself. They really do make some bone-headed moves.
@rallydefault I don't know. I have a feeling that my older systems will outlive the Wii and certainly the Wii U. My GameCube still runs perfectly fine to this day, it isn't even noisy at all. I've accidentally dropped that system and the controllers so many times, but that thing can probably survive a nuclear war. I think there's some truth to it though. Older systems tend to have less moving parts, are less complicated and will therefore last longer. For example, the a top loader like the PS1 or GameCube won't really break, even if it does, it's still not an issue. But any 7th gen and 8th gen consoles have a moving disc slot, if that breaks, the entire system is pretty much useless.
On the contrary, I anticipate that it will be a resounding success. Generally speaking, I am not a Nintendo fan and I am really excited about getting my hands on this machine. I think Nintendo should be commended for their technological bravery. It is companies like Nintendo, by investing in hybrid portable-conventional gaming technologies, who will aid the development of ever smaller, increasingly powerful processing units. If the Switch is a success, I think Nintendo will be well positioned to make a much better replacement for it than when they were after the Wii's success. Much of the Switch's criticism seemingly emanates from the Wii U's failures and I don't think that is a balanced view. The Switch will live and die on its own merits not on the Wii U's.
Considering how much effort Nintendo have made to get their message across, I expect a lot of disappointment to be self-inflicted. The Switch comes across as being very well made, designed, having lots of versatility and a decent software lineup in 2017. With all the information we know/have been given, I know how I'll personally use the product.
I don't think the Switch will be a letdown... but the software launch is.
Breath of the Wild, MK8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2? I own a Wii U. There's just not enough in that lineup, or the supporting titles, to demand that I buy Day 1. And that's what I wanted - I shouldn't be buying Day 1, I've spent too much on games/hardware in the last 2 years, I've got an enormous backlog, but I wanted the launch to be too good to refuse, and it's not to me. None of it is killer when considered in the context of owning a Wii U and having played Splatoon and MK8 already.
Mario Odyssey? Now that's a different proposition. If Switch was launching with it, (or some new killer game from Retro) then I'd be there. As it is I'm waiting 'til Christmas to see how things progress, hoping for a well-priced Odyssey bundle to force my hand.
I personally don't think they are targeting Wii U owners. The main games coming are either enhanced ports or a sequel to a relatively recent game (that also looks like an enhanced port). This does make sense seen as Wii U only sold in low numbers. They seem to be targeting original Wii owners, 3DS owners and with a little bit of luck early adopters that can't resist a cool gadget. I fall into all four categories so I was sold last November and the wait is killing me lol
Whether or not Switch is disappointing to anyone will depend on what their expectations were. People who wanted a PS4 level machine that they could play at home or take on the go and wanted all of the big PS4/Xbox One third party games to come over with no compromises will obviously be disappointed. However, I suspect that if Nintendo had actually created that machine then the price would have been too high so those people would have been disappointed anyway.
On the other hand, if your expectation was to be able to play all of Nintendo's big franchises in HD on a portable machine then I expect that you will be very happy with it. It is a huge step up from the 3DS (although some Vita games look just as good as the early Switch games). As someone who plays 95% of the time on handhelds, I think the Switch looks awesome. However, I will personally be waiting until there is either a smaller form factor or the price comes down significantly before I will get one.
The thing that will take some getting used to for me is the price of the games. I have become accustomed to paying $40 at most for handheld games. Switch games look very expensive in comparison. I think this is the main reason that Nintendo keeps insisting that Switch is a home console first and foremost. They are charging console prices for the games so they need to position it as a console.
@Mellor2000
I think Nintendo are absolutely hoping that their current Wii U fan base will all upgrade. However, they are also hoping to get many more buyers than that! If the Switch eventually sells 60 million plus units (which I think is achievable) then roughly 75% of those people would never have owned a Wii U. They are the prime audience for any ports that come from the Wii U. I expect that eventually every significant Wii U game will be brought over in some form. People who owned the Wii U will groan whenever that happens, but it makes sense form a business standpoint. Ports can be done cheaply and will allow Nintendo to pad the bottom line.
Mellor2000
I think Nintendo are absolutely hoping that their current Wii U fan base will all upgrade. However, they are also hoping to get many more buyers than that! If the Switch eventually sells 60 million plus units (which I think is achievable) then roughly 75% of those people would never have owned a Wii U. They are the prime audience for any ports that come from the Wii U. I expect that eventually every significant Wii U game will be brought over in some form. People who owned the Wii U will groan whenever that happens, but it makes sense form a business standpoint. Ports can be done cheaply and will allow Nintendo to pad the bottom line.
I disagree, games that coulcn't sell the Wii U aren't gonna sell the Switch.
I disagree, games that coulcn't sell the Wii U aren't gonna sell the Switch.
But games like Mario Kart 8 definitely did sell the Wii U. Just not in big enough quantities.
In part that's because the narrative was already decisively against the Wii U by the time that Mario Kart 8 was released. It was clear then that all 3rd party support had bolted, that the PS4 and XBox One were already ahead in lifetime sales and were far more powerful. And pretty much the same price. There was clearly no way back so a lot of people who might have bought the Wii U for Mario Kart got cold feet.
In the right circumstances though I think that Mario Kart 8 and some of the other prospective ports of games that couldn't "sell the Wii U" could sell the Switch.
Also - don't forget - that sometimes making a game portable completely changes the perception of that game and can on it's own make it a "system seller". The first versions of Tetris didn't shift a single PC but once it was put on the GameBoy...
Whether or not Switch is disappointing to anyone will depend on what their expectations were. People who wanted a PS4 level machine that they could play at home or take on the go and wanted all of the big PS4/Xbox One third party games to come over with no compromises will obviously be disappointed. However, I suspect that if Nintendo had actually created that machine then the price would have been too high so those people would have been disappointed anyway.
On the other hand, if your expectation was to be able to play all of Nintendo's big franchises in HD on a portable machine then I expect that you will be very happy with it. It is a huge step up from the 3DS (although some Vita games look just as good as the early Switch games). As someone who plays 95% of the time on handhelds, I think the Switch looks awesome. However, I will personally be waiting until there is either a smaller form factor or the price comes down significantly before I will get one.
The thing that will take some getting used to for me is the price of the games. I have become accustomed to paying $40 at most for handheld games. Switch games look very expensive in comparison. I think this is the main reason that Nintendo keeps insisting that Switch is a home console first and foremost. They are charging console prices for the games so they need to position it as a console.
Honestly I was expecting a console that was going to be both reasons you mentioned combined. The reason for that is because whether it was a rumor or not, when I first heard about the console under the codename NX. They were talking about making a console that was going to be both. Powerful enough to compete with the PS4 and Xbox One, and have a lot of they're games on the Nintendo console. But at the same time still have all the big Nintendo franchises, and the ports like MK8.
If my expectations are completely wrong, or I set the bar too high on my expectations. So be it!
But, regardless of it being able to compete with the PS4 and Xbox One. I still think the console is slacking in the hardware department!
Like I said before to other replies in this post, in my opinion 32GB nowadays is a joke. Also, at least not being able to upgrade the internal hard drive to a bigger storage capacity on your own, is a big letbdown for me as well! Also, the fact that you have to buy some type of external memory card in the form of a micro SD card, to me feels outdated. It reminds me of 1995 when the PS1 was released, or 2000 when the PS2 was released (sarcastically speaking, but at the same time serious). Because you had to use an external memory card and it was considered an accessory. Just like they're marketing the micro SD card now, for the Switch.. Also, not to mention the official micro SD cards with the Nintendo logo on it manufactured by a third party company for Nintendo, are way more expensive than other major brands micro SD cards on the market, and there's no reason or explanation for that! Other than just to rip you off and make more money off you!
I mean, the hardware inside the console doesn't justify at least me, to be paying the price we're paying for the Switch. I mean now for $50 less you can get another console that has at least five times as much stocked internal memory(500GB). Also, it comes with a game included via a bundle. Which Nintendo seems to not have any game bundles, or at least includ a game. Which I think 1-2 Switch should've been included with the console, at least maybe for the people that pre ordered the console and picked it up on launch day.
I don't think there is a particular game that can sell a system. Zelda looks fanstastic but is it worth £330 for the the console and that one game? What sells a system is its concept and capability. Your hardcore gamer buys a PS4 or a Xbox one because of the power. They believe that the their choice of games machine will mean they will get the best looking games on the market even if the launch titles are just a very small step up from the previous generation. Nintendo does things a little differently by trying to change the concept of how we play our games. What some people pass off as gimmicks are actually innovative ways of playing games. The success of the Switch all comes down to whether Nintendo can communicate the benefits of this hybrid system and how it will change the gaming landscape. If it captures the imagination of the consumer and sell 50 million units you can bet it'll attract every 3rd party developer. I'll admit I'm not that excited for any of the launch titles (bomberman aside) but I am excited about playing with this amazing piece of tech.
''Other than Zelda, I don't think there is any other game worth purchasing at the time!''
I am disapointed with the lack of excitement with the huge comeback of Bomberman
@RaphaBoss For me bomberman is the stand out title. It's not just the nostalgia of playing an updated 90s game but also because it benefits from the Switch platform. It's a game built for local multiplayer, one of swich's main strengths.
@shaneoh I'm personally one of the few who are more excited for Bomberman than Zelda. A great single player game is fun and all, but nothing beats a great local multiplayer game. The most fun I've had with a game in a long time is Super C with one of my flatmates. Nothing can compare to great co-op imo.
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