Topic: I gave up!!!

... Isn't it the Cosmos Black 3DS having the most problems? I'm not sure what qualifys as a loose hinge and the bottom screen's hedge doesn't 'scratch' my 3DS screen. Also, so many people here are brutal with their systems- my DSlite and even original DS still have a working LR button. Stop being abusive- you don't need to freak and press down hard on those buttons

Also, do people really have an issue with the circle pad in regards to your thumb sliding off? Cause I sure don't. Then again, I never noticed...?

I've had issues with the analog pad and bottom screen leaving marks on the top half, but those are easily wiped away. Overall, I'm pleased with my 3DS so far. It kinda lacks oomph right now, but there are a billion and a half games on the horizon that keep me from regretting this purchase.

I'd like to comment on some problems Mandoble mentioned. Not to bash anyone in any way but to show that not everybody's got the same issues.

not happening to me

having problems with it too

I like the size of my 3DS. If the upper screen was any bigger the 3DS would be bigger too. Wouldn't be good.

I can't remember any saying that there'll be more than one sweet spot. It would be great for 3D videos though.

While the browser worked alright for me at first it's kind of getting worse in the past days. And i don't want to delete anything that's taking up the internal memory.

@Mandoble

Yesterday, while I was playing Ocarina of Time, I was turning the 3Ds to aim with the slingshot, with full 3D in effect, and it never messed up

Also, my thumb is always resting on the thumb slider

I haven't had that problem yet, but one time my thumb started sliding a little because of the pad's shape, and that I had been playing for a long time.

Well, it's definitely a bad place to put it, but I've seen worse.

Hasn't given me trouble so far, and it's better than a lot of other stuff I've used.

The PSP's is bigger by less than an inch. I don't consider 3.5 inches to be small for a handheld display, especially since there's a bottom screen.

"Fragile"? Well, mine are still working great, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

Agreed.

This is news to me.

Maybe it's just my eyesight, but I can see the 3D fine as long as I'm looking right at the screen.

The PSP's display is 128 PPI. With 3D on, the top screen of the 3DS is 132 PPI. When 3D is turned off, the horizontal resolution doubles.

Agreed, but it's not a problem for me. "Simple web pages" are the only thing I would ever use the browser for. Everything else is much more convenient on a computer.

Just to quote on a few things Mandoble said -

Analog Pad - I suppose it depends on the shape and size of your thumb, but fine for me.
Microphone Slot - True, however, you must admit that it is so rarely used that it makes little difference.
Headphone Connector - I thought it was quite conveniently placed actually, TBH.
Small Screen - If you combine the 3DS' 2 screens.....
Fragile L&R Buttons - ................................ I think we can all agree this is rubbish.
Top Screen Being 'Framed' - This does seem to be a common problem, however, luckily for me, all is fine!!!
Five Sweet Spots - 1.When was this said and... 2. I'm fine with the screen anyway, I can always see it fine.
3D Distortion - True, but only occassionally, about 70% of the time I can retain the 3D effect.
Crappy Cameras e.t.c - Am I the only one who is thinking this guy is a Sony fan?
Finally - 1. (Sigh) 2.True

I don't want to sound like some mad Nintendo fanboy but despite the fact that I know many 3DS' have been received with faults, I've had mine since launch on 25th March and had no problems, apart from a slight wobble on the hinge, but I don't think this is a problem, it's just kind of happened during manufacture as a slight fault.

And finally, you keep commenting on the PSP/Vita's superior quality's to the 3DS..... am I the only one who thinks we can't trust your words of criticism and are just deliberately trying to poke false allegations and nit-picking through the 3DS' design features? If you are a Sony fan, fine, because when the Vita launches, I won't be wasting my time nit-picking through design features that are not to my tastes.

From where are you getting this?
"When 3D is turned off, the horizontal resolution doubles."
3DS works with two images rendered with the very same resolution each one from a slightly different postion. I dont see how practical resolution can be doubled. That would mean that it switches from 132 PPI to 132x2? Which is not the case, btw, and if it were, then the extra resolution would be a waste in a so small screen where you already can hardly appreciate any small details while playing OOT.

I have a PSP and compared with my 3DS its screen looks really big, independent of the resolution. And 3DS screens looks really ridiculous compared with my DSiXL.

The headphone is on the bottom, and if you connect them then your 3DS cannot rest comfortably over your chest when you are playing, same applies to microphone. This is the very worst handheld design by Nintendo in all its history much worse than DSiXL, DSi, even DS and of course much much worse than PSP. It is like a prototype put into production prematurely, might be knowing that Vita will eat it alive in all and every aspect.

3DSneedsRPGs, I'm not any Sony fan, nor a Nintendo fan, I'm a plain consumer. But I have the honest feeling that Nintendo is way way way overrated for what it really deserves, even more if we compare building cost with prices and the other consoles. As an example, a 260€ 2009 Wii had a buinding cost of 50€, no idea about today's 3DS building cost, but Vita announced a launch price cheaper than it, and for sure building cost of Vita is far superior than that of 3DS.

BTW, the idea of combining size of both screens to argue about the small size of the upper one is absurd, with DS you can really say that you play with both, with 3DS it is the opposite, the lower one will be left for menus, selections, etc, but the real game content will always run on the upper one only.

So many tortured souls...

Let me take on the mantle of your suffering.

Send your 3DS to MEEEEEEEE!

@Mandoble: My understanding is that the two separate images need to be displayed simultaneously, using 50% of the pixels for each eye. It doesn't literally double the resolution, but it displays a higher resolution image.

I disagree. If menus, maps, and less important HUD elements are on the bottom screen, then those things aren't cluttering the top screen. I would use the same argument for the DS, too. Most of my DS games take place on one screen, and the other is used for something else.

There's no need to start a argument.

Everyone can let mandoble have his opinion on the 3DS. although some of his "complaints" about the 3DS are very small, they are valid complaints nonetheless.

I, personally, love my 3DS. There is nothing about it that I would change besides maybe the placement of the microphone.

So IMO, the 3DS's design is great. Nintendo couldn't have done a better job.

Not necessarily valid (the whole 5 sweet spots has never been said). Some issues he brought up are issues that certain individuals have- not all. There are people who's screens get scratched or something because of the lower screen, but there are some like me that don't. As for L & R buttons- never had a problem with the original DS, DSlite, DSi and this one, so.. Yeah. All dependant on the individual. The rest is up for grabs and are common.

@komicturtle92, it was said by Nintendo long time before the launch, when announcing the usage of Sharp (as far as I remember) displays and asked if other people can also see what you were playing at, the answer was that there were going to be "n" positions from where you can correcly see the image, I think this "n" was 5 while I might be wrong, of course greater than 2 in any case.

@Rift, as far as I understand this resolution is not increased when 3D bar is moved down or doubled when the bar is set to the bottom. Basically, the PPI supported by the screen should remain the same all the time.

@mandoble: Just a question; Do you actually own a 3DS? If "yes", Do you look properly after the device? Thanks.

@3DSNeedsRPGS I think he's a Sony fan, though.

we're all Sonyfans!
Is there a problem?

This is now SONYLIFE

the Sony fan disease has obviously spread. I think Corbs has it. D:

Guys, liking Sony products is not a 'disease'; we're (mostly) adults and we're allowed to like more than one thing in this life. Why does everything have to be so cut and dry? :/

So now I am wondering with the ones who gave up on the 3DS and traded it in how are they going to react to the 20 free games announcement.

Price cut. Hahahahaha, I got $165($204 with 2 games) for my trade-in at GS last week. I'm so glad I got rid of that thing while it's free falling. I'll pick one up here in 2 years when its only $99, if the 3rd party games get any better, but I'm not holding my breath. I've played all the GBA and NES games to death and I don't need all of them, other then a few favs. I once was a Nintendo guy, but they boched this one big time, Bring on the PS Vita.

I find this thread thoroughly entertaining.