Nintendo has to have their hard-hitter games ready before the console release. They can't release consoles, have droughts, say "Please understand," and so on this many times. Iwata never learns from his launch mistakes (even though he sure as hell knows how to say "Please understand" due to them).
People say all that matters is the end result, but right now, this IS the end result. Their management needs to get with the times. Not the game devs (for the most part), they're fine. They just need to learn that they should have local AND online multiplayer for certain games (Mario 3D World). The "local is better" isn't an excuse, since if you don't have friends close by, you can't play local at all.
Their upper management lives in this bubble where they say "we don't care about the competition." To an extent, this is noble because they won't do shady business tactics that others will do. It also has big problems because they refuse to do what has been standard since 2005 (unified accounts, unified voice chat system, all in all, the standard online system). Miiverse is definitely a nice thing to have, but it's no replacement for the standard online system.
@wombatkidd It isn't about whether it was their first try or not. It's about them not taking hints from other companies' decisions. Do you also think it's okay for Nintendo to have trouble developing HD games 8 years after HD becoming mainstream just because it was "their first try"? They've had years to prepare for this, and they couldn't even get that right. I expect better from my favorite game devs.
It's better to have a limited amount of transfers for the 3DS and no transfer system at all for the Wii U than it is to be able to log into a different system?
And good job, using an example of a model made in 2009 as a reason to why it's okay to have a worse one in 2013.
@EvisceratorX IMO, they should have a 32GB model, 120GB model, and 250/500GB model. Those who don't want digital can get 32gb, those who want some digital without having to use a slower external HDD can get the latter.
Saying the Vita has no games is sillier than saying Wii U has no games. The Vita certainly has good games, but none that scream system seller the way that the 3DS first party games do.
That's a blatant lie. The name is a huge problem. Nobody outside of the hardcore know that Nintendo has a new machine. Software is the biggest problem, but to say that the name isn't a problem is BS.
They were clearly trying to bank on the Wii's name and success, but with all the Wii accessories, it just makes confusion.
The only reason to even consider this thing would be the $40 lower price. Otherwise there's not much point. Whatever, more models can't be a bad thing.
Frick, now I can't share it with my brother without giving him my whole system. I refuse to buy digital on a system without something as simple as a unified account system.
@AltDotNerd It's not a knock off. Speedruns of this category have to be done on some sort of official Nintendo hardware. The iQue player was a deal by Nintendo to help curb piracy of N64 games in China at the time. The hardware is all condensed to a single chip, minimizing latency. This is most noticeable in the tower collapse since it's the only official version without any lag (3DS version is regarded as 100% different game). The only downsides to the iQue player for Ocarina of Time is that pause buffering is harder to do (speedrunners practice to do without pause buffering though), and that save-warping to Link's house is longer.
Ugh, the best part of Master Quest was the crazy dungeon maps and path. You'd see some crazy stuff, like getting the Longshot before the dungeon map (I did at least), and the Shadow Temple (hardest Temple in Master Quest).
Sad to see that I won't be able to have this challenge in Wind Waker. Even if it was $10 DLC a fair amount of time later, I'll be happy.
@SuperKMx In my opinion, there has to be skill to unlock stuff, not a will to pay money. People who don't pay should be able to compete with payers without a game changing difference.
Good thing I got it from Nintendo's official store when it was still there. I will never support a used game from Gamestop because of shady practices like this. I don't know what the hell Nintendo was thinking, letting Gamestop of all places to be the exclusive retailer to have it. Now they're getting almost all profit off a new game.
Tip- Don't buy SD cards from this, you can get 8gb for a few bucks on Amazon. The systems however aren't a bad price, they're a nice alternative to new.
Dude, there's a reason why we moved on from cartridges. Carts can't hold the data that a Blu-Ray disc can. They are more durable, but we have disc cases for a reason.
We're not the only people, thankfully. I refuse to purchase retail games digitally until both of these standards are met- 1. Real accounts 2. Cheaper than retail (Although, I gotta say, PSN and XBLA aren't great about this either. Take a note from Steam's sales.)
@element187 Are you kidding me? If you can't move it yourself, it's stuck to the console. We shouldn't have to send it in to Nintendo if we want to transfer digital data. We should be able to do it ourselves, because it's the 21st century. It's stone age practice. It's not 1990 anymore. It's 2013, and Nintendo has to embrace accounts.
@Grubdog "grateful for whatever they get" So we can't criticize bad games? You telling me that we couldn't complain about Sonic 2006? You telling me that Duke Nukem Forever is excused for its awful quality?
@ajcismo I don't even know why Nintendo couldn't be prepared. All they had to do was look at previous consoles and learn from those mistakes. The Playstation 3 bombed at launch, 3DS did too. While they turned out fine, we shouldn't have to wait for a released console to do its job: having games.
@GiftedGimp Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have this problem. Do you think that they would delay game after game due to being unprepared for HD development? They wouldn't abandon the PS3 and 360 in late 2011 like Nintendo did (no big Wii games developed after Skyward Sword). They also wouldn't forget about their systems for the entire first half of 2013. Nintendo dropped the ball with the Wii U, and I KNOW that they can do much better. I have higher expectations for Nintendo. It's called tough love.
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Re: Talking Point: With Calls for Nintendo to Follow the Crowd, It Faces a Dilemma
Nintendo has to have their hard-hitter games ready before the console release. They can't release consoles, have droughts, say "Please understand," and so on this many times. Iwata never learns from his launch mistakes (even though he sure as hell knows how to say "Please understand" due to them).
People say all that matters is the end result, but right now, this IS the end result. Their management needs to get with the times. Not the game devs (for the most part), they're fine. They just need to learn that they should have local AND online multiplayer for certain games (Mario 3D World). The "local is better" isn't an excuse, since if you don't have friends close by, you can't play local at all.
Their upper management lives in this bubble where they say "we don't care about the competition." To an extent, this is noble because they won't do shady business tactics that others will do. It also has big problems because they refuse to do what has been standard since 2005 (unified accounts, unified voice chat system, all in all, the standard online system). Miiverse is definitely a nice thing to have, but it's no replacement for the standard online system.
Re: Reaction: The Pokémon Bank and the Inevitability of Online Charges
I have no idea why I have to pay to transfer my Pokemon. That's been free since Gen II.
Re: Rayman Legends Sells More Copies In The UK On Wii U Than Any Other Format
This is good news. Shows that the Wii U is a viable platform.
Third parties, when you give the Wii U the best version at the same time as the other versions, it will show in the sales.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@unrandomsam That's true... but what does that have to do with anything I said?
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@wombatkidd It isn't about whether it was their first try or not. It's about them not taking hints from other companies' decisions. Do you also think it's okay for Nintendo to have trouble developing HD games 8 years after HD becoming mainstream just because it was "their first try"? They've had years to prepare for this, and they couldn't even get that right. I expect better from my favorite game devs.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
It's better to have a limited amount of transfers for the 3DS and no transfer system at all for the Wii U than it is to be able to log into a different system?
And good job, using an example of a model made in 2009 as a reason to why it's okay to have a worse one in 2013.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@EvisceratorX IMO, they should have a 32GB model, 120GB model, and 250/500GB model. Those who don't want digital can get 32gb, those who want some digital without having to use a slower external HDD can get the latter.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@originaljohn Because you don't have to go through a crappy transfer process to recover your digital content...
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@rodoubleb Damn straight. I'll start doing that, thanks for the tip.
Re: Nintendo's Scott Moffitt: 3DS and Vita Have Very Different Strategies For Portable Play
@Rafie 'Kay. I know what you mean.
Re: Nintendo's Scott Moffitt: 3DS and Vita Have Very Different Strategies For Portable Play
@Rafie I see your point, but when people say Wii U has no games, they get riled up. But they're the same people who say Vita has no games.
Re: Nintendo's Scott Moffitt: 3DS and Vita Have Very Different Strategies For Portable Play
@Rafie
Saying the Vita has no games is sillier than saying Wii U has no games. The Vita certainly has good games, but none that scream system seller the way that the 3DS first party games do.
Re: Wii U Name Isn't To Blame For Poor Sales, Says Reggie
@Nintenjoe64 "I sometimes wonder if Sony and MS paid the mainstream sites to keep saying they were confused"
There's no anti Nintendo conspiracy. Nintendo screwed up with the name. Accept that fact.
Re: Wii U Name Isn't To Blame For Poor Sales, Says Reggie
That's a blatant lie. The name is a huge problem. Nobody outside of the hardcore know that Nintendo has a new machine. Software is the biggest problem, but to say that the name isn't a problem is BS.
They were clearly trying to bank on the Wii's name and success, but with all the Wii accessories, it just makes confusion.
Re: Nintendo 2DS is Actually Made With Just One Screen
The only reason to even consider this thing would be the $40 lower price. Otherwise there's not much point. Whatever, more models can't be a bad thing.
Re: Wii U Deluxe Model Gets Official $50 Price Cut in North America
Ambassador games. NOW. 10 GBA games, 10 GCN games.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@tchaten I'd rather have both for lots of options. SSD>Internal HDD>External for everything except price.
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies Will Not Be Getting A Boxed Copy in The West
Frick, now I can't share it with my brother without giving him my whole system. I refuse to buy digital on a system without something as simple as a unified account system.
Re: Metroid Fan Film Fundraising Campaign Demolished After Claim From Nintendo
What a surprise. I did not see this coming. In other news the sky is blue
Re: Club Nintendo Japan Gets A Trio of Awesome T-Shirts
Only in Japan. Whoopee.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals Fails To Meet Funding Goal
Sorry that they didn't get enough ebegging money. Get the money yourself through hard work, like we used to.
Re: Weirdness: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is Beaten in Under 20 Minutes
@AltDotNerd It's not a knock off. Speedruns of this category have to be done on some sort of official Nintendo hardware. The iQue player was a deal by Nintendo to help curb piracy of N64 games in China at the time. The hardware is all condensed to a single chip, minimizing latency. This is most noticeable in the tower collapse since it's the only official version without any lag (3DS version is regarded as 100% different game). The only downsides to the iQue player for Ocarina of Time is that pause buffering is harder to do (speedrunners practice to do without pause buffering though), and that save-warping to Link's house is longer.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Hero Mode Details Sail Into View
Ugh, the best part of Master Quest was the crazy dungeon maps and path. You'd see some crazy stuff, like getting the Longshot before the dungeon map (I did at least), and the Shadow Temple (hardest Temple in Master Quest).
Sad to see that I won't be able to have this challenge in Wind Waker. Even if it was $10 DLC a fair amount of time later, I'll be happy.
Re: Game Designers Reveal How Super Mario Bros. 3 Would Work As A Free-To-Play Mobile Title
@SuperKMx In my opinion, there has to be skill to unlock stuff, not a will to pay money. People who don't pay should be able to compete with payers without a game changing difference.
Re: Game Designers Reveal How Super Mario Bros. 3 Would Work As A Free-To-Play Mobile Title
@Henmii Planetside 2 is evil? It's free to play, but it is NOT a pay to win game.
Re: Metroid Prime Trilogy Now Available At GameStop For $84.99
I'm actually curious about this game's condition. Is it just a regular box and game, or does it have any of the original run's extra goodies?
Re: GameStop Accused of Re-Printing Xenoblade Chronicles, Then Selling as "Used" For $90
Good thing I got it from Nintendo's official store when it was still there. I will never support a used game from Gamestop because of shady practices like this. I don't know what the hell Nintendo was thinking, letting Gamestop of all places to be the exclusive retailer to have it. Now they're getting almost all profit off a new game.
Re: Nintendo Now Selling Refurbished SD Cards and 3DS XL Consoles
Tip- Don't buy SD cards from this, you can get 8gb for a few bucks on Amazon. The systems however aren't a bad price, they're a nice alternative to new.
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales Revenue Continues Upward Trend With 3DS and Wii U
@LzQuacker You're telling me that the digital retail games on the eShop aren't competing with physical copies at retail?
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales Revenue Continues Upward Trend With 3DS and Wii U
Dude, there's a reason why we moved on from cartridges. Carts can't hold the data that a Blu-Ray disc can. They are more durable, but we have disc cases for a reason.
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales Revenue Continues Upward Trend With 3DS and Wii U
We're not the only people, thankfully. I refuse to purchase retail games digitally until both of these standards are met-
1. Real accounts
2. Cheaper than retail (Although, I gotta say, PSN and XBLA aren't great about this either. Take a note from Steam's sales.)
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales Revenue Continues Upward Trend With 3DS and Wii U
@element187 Are you kidding me? If you can't move it yourself, it's stuck to the console. We shouldn't have to send it in to Nintendo if we want to transfer digital data. We should be able to do it ourselves, because it's the 21st century. It's stone age practice. It's not 1990 anymore. It's 2013, and Nintendo has to embrace accounts.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Outlines the Challenges of Smash Bros. Development
@Grubdog "grateful for whatever they get"
So we can't criticize bad games? You telling me that we couldn't complain about Sonic 2006? You telling me that Duke Nukem Forever is excused for its awful quality?
Re: Feature: The Big Nintendo Direct Round-Up - 7th August
Direct was disappointing. No big news, except for Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney.
Re: Animal Crossing: New Leaf Remains in UK Top Five, Pikmin 3 Falls Away
@Chris720 Well, of course. Pikmin's a fantastic game, but it's too niche to really move units the way Mario and Zelda can.
Re: Pokémon X & Y to Catch Roughly 14,000 of Your 3DS Memory Blocks
So why is there only one save file with all this space? Carts can hold 8GB, there's no excuse for only one save file.
Re: Wii U Research & Development Costs May "Undermine Profitability"
@Relias Exactly, all previous mistakes that Nintendo could've very easily learned from but didn't.
Re: Wii U Research & Development Costs May "Undermine Profitability"
@ajcismo I don't even know why Nintendo couldn't be prepared. All they had to do was look at previous consoles and learn from those mistakes. The Playstation 3 bombed at launch, 3DS did too. While they turned out fine, we shouldn't have to wait for a released console to do its job: having games.
Re: Wii U Research & Development Costs May "Undermine Profitability"
@GiftedGimp Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have this problem. Do you think that they would delay game after game due to being unprepared for HD development? They wouldn't abandon the PS3 and 360 in late 2011 like Nintendo did (no big Wii games developed after Skyward Sword). They also wouldn't forget about their systems for the entire first half of 2013. Nintendo dropped the ball with the Wii U, and I KNOW that they can do much better. I have higher expectations for Nintendo. It's called tough love.
Re: Rumour: The Wind Waker HD May Have An Additional Difficulty Level
@AlexSora89 I don't want to believe that. Did the Golden Skulltulas get you or something?
Re: Report Suggests You'll Soon Be Able To Purchase Nintendo Titles Via Your Phone Or PC
If there isn't an account system, then none of this matters to me. Digital purchases have to be account-based, this is 2013, not 1990.
Re: Looks Like Batman: Arkham Origins Isn't Getting Online Play On Wii U
Looks like Batman Arkham Origins won't sell on Wii U. I wonder why