@Bustacap So? That doesn't change the fact there are people who do use emulators legally. I don't like being loped in with criminals just because we both use emulators.
@sanderev
Yes, I copy all my games myself.
And please don't assume that everyone online lives in the US. Circumventing copy protection to copy games I own is legal in my country.
People copying their own games isn't that uncommon, so please don't just generalize emulation as stealing.
Furthermore, there are emulators that do read from actual cartridges/discs.
@beazlen1 Yeah, a lot of the older hardware I own has started to break down. I'd love to replace them, but retro gaming is so expensive, it's hard to justify spending so much on used goods.
Apart from that, my eye sight has gotten a lot worse, so I have trouble seeing smaller handheld screens.
@sanderev Emulators don't steal games though. They just let you play them beyond a consoles normal life span. You still have to obtain the games yourself first, hopefully in a legal manner.
Thanks to emulation I'm still able to enjoy all the games I've collected through out my life.
@Richnj I can assure you that many of us have put a lot of thought into this topic. Assuming we haven't just because we disagree with you is pretty arrogant.
The difference with used games is that they have been paid for, to the developer, at some point in that copies history. The person who sells the game in turn loses access to it.
@Richnj If everyone got the game free then the developer wouldn't get paid for their work. And if they don't get paid then games don't get made. See how that works?
I didn't say piracy doesn't equate to lost sales, I said that current DRM doesn't increase sales. Theres a difference.
Just because something is "harmless" doesn't mean it's not morally wrong. Again, justice is a big part of morality.
@SwitchForce
1. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are trying to say, the way you write is very difficult to understand. I can't tell if you are accusing me of something or not. All the games I emulate are legally purchased and copied.
2. First of all, guns don't kill, people do. But second, my point was that making things illegal doesn't make a difference to criminals anyways. It hurts legal players because they don't have decent games to buy now, but I see your point about voting with your wallet.
3. I didn't say developers aren't hurt by piracy, just that they're smart enough to know DRM doesn't solve the issue. But how does DRM expose pirates anyway? And what does that do to stop them?
@sanderev
I've copied like half my library. (Haven't done switch yet but I plan on it.)
It's really not that hard. Why don't you believe that he's done it?
@Wexter Yeah I get that, but I wish people would be more specific with their chose of words. Many of the comments here generalize emulation as piracy, which can hurt legal emulation's reputation.
What makes DRM so frustrating is that it just ends up hurting legal players since pirates will just crack it anyway. Kinda like how banning guns just disarms the innocent.
Although, ultimately, publishers know that DRM doesn't stop piracy. It's just there to reassure investors who don't understand how games work and just want to be assured they'll get their money back. It's just business I guess.
Why are people assuming all emulation is for piracy? It isn't.
I play a lot of games I've legally purchased and copied myself using emulation. A big part of that is for accessibility. My vision is pretty poor so I struggle with handled screens a lot, even on something like 3DS XL. Emulating lets me actually play the games I've paid for.
Plus, its nice to have all my games on one platform without having to re-buy everything every generation (assuming they're even available).
The fact is a lot of older consoles are dying and the games just aren't being made available for newer platforms. We're getting to the point where emulation is the only way the play some of the older games people own. This isn't an issue for switch right now, but it will be someday.
@Kimyonaakuma
Then maybe you should have said that in your first comment instead of stereotyping an entire sex while simultaneously complaining about sexism.
Plus, there are people of both genders who act like that in every industry, not just video games. Trust me, you don't need to be gay to be a victim of it.
@ReaperMelia
It's literally mentioned in this article that his heritage is part of the controversy. It's been mentioned before too.
Plus it's not like Martinet is the first person to voice Mario either. Other actors have done a great job playing him too. It's not like Martinet can voice him forever.
Seriously? This is what it's come to? People do know "actors" actually are right? Next they'll complain Link isn't played by an actual Hylian.
Why is it fine for a Japanese person make an Italian character, but not okay for a non-Italian to ever play him in a movie? I'm just going to say it. That's pretty racist.
@relinqued They're not "former hackers", they just had a history of making Sonic fan games. They started working with Sega by recreating the genesis games for ios/android.
@Bolt_Strike Sure there weren't many complaints about Colors and Generations, but there was a ton for Forces and the Colors rerelease. Even when Sega gives people EXACTLY what they asked for people still complain. Forces wasn't any different then Generations, the fact that you think is was kinda just proves my point.
Of course not every single single Sonic game is a copy, but you can't deny Generation has roots to Mario. The whole boost mechanic thing comes from Sonic rush on the DS, which was made to copy Mario Bros. Also, Sonic Boom was developed by an external studio and published by Nintendo, so it really doesn't have much to do with Sega at all.
@BrianJL To be fair the whole "soothing music" trends comes from Minecraft, Zelda just copied it too. It feels out of place in BoTW too, imho it's one of the games worst aspects.
Please, Sonic has been "disappointing" people for over 20 years now. When are people going to realize that the Sonic franchise just isn't what they think it is? What exactly do they think it's suppose to be? Another 06, unleashed, lost world, or forces? People hated those too. Even the Colors rerelease was panned.
And don't forget that Sonic games have always intentionally copied Nintendo. Sonic 1 copied Mario Bros, Adventure copied Mario 64, Unleashed copied Twilight Princess, Colors copied NSMB, and Lost World copied Mario Galaxy. We shouldn't be surprised that they're copying BoTW now too. BoTW really isn't very "Zelda" like either,. but it was a fun new direction for the franchise. Frontiers can be the same way for Sonic.
The fact is that Sonic is whatever Sega says it is. It's never been meant to be taken too seriously anyway. Just enjoy it for what it is and have fun.
@link3710
It sort of depends on what you count as a "cancelled" game I guess. Really what happened was that there were three prototype iterations before they landed on Return to Dreamland. Two of those prototypes were indeed for GameCube, but I'm not sure it's fair to call them "cancelled" since they were really just part of RtDL's development.
Other than that there was also Roll-O-Rama, a follow up to Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble, that was later changed to a generic non-kirby game before being scrapped altogether.
@Link-Hero It doesn't matter if you understand it or not, the point is that some people do find it offensive. For the record, everyone I know finds it offensive. Just because the people in your life are fine with it doesn't mean everyone is.
@Link-Hero
Well as someone who likes to consider themselves to be a reasonable adult myself, I for one find the use of the word to be offensive. In my opinion a reasonable adult would be considerate enough not to use language that could offend other people or make fun of them for finding it offensive. That's called having manners.
@Koda1000 This a good point, but I feel like most of the audience for these games probably bought a Wii U. The Wii U versions sold just about as well as any other Zelda release despite Wii U's poor sales. If there was really an audience for them than they probably would have done them instead of Skyward Sword.
Also, if these comments are any indication, then it doesn't sound like most people are willing to spend full price for them anyway. Nintendo doesn't want to sell "budget" games, they want to be seen as a company with the "premium" experience. Plus, cheaper games ultimately cut into the sales for big budget games too.
@RaunchyHylian That seems a little cynical, don't you think? A CEO can't just outright lie about what they're working on. That would amount to market manipulation. If he says they're not working on it, than they're not working on it. Period.
I really doubt either of these games are going to be ported anytime soon. BOTW2 is coming early next year (probably a March release along with a new system, similar to the first game), releasing another Zelda this close would be a total waste.
Not to mention that releasing it this summer would pit it against Xenoblade 3, which would hurt sales for both games. A Christmas release would be more likely, but it would be WAY too close to BOTW2 at that point.
Plus I'd kinda think both those games would be a big draw for a potential GameCube service for NSO.
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Re: Rumour: Amazon Is Reportedly Preparing To Buy Electronic Arts
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Re: Nintendo Is Apparently Not Involved In The New Switch DRM Initiative
@Bustacap So? That doesn't change the fact there are people who do use emulators legally. I don't like being loped in with criminals just because we both use emulators.
Re: Nintendo Is Apparently Not Involved In The New Switch DRM Initiative
@sanderev
Yes, I copy all my games myself.
And please don't assume that everyone online lives in the US. Circumventing copy protection to copy games I own is legal in my country.
People copying their own games isn't that uncommon, so please don't just generalize emulation as stealing.
Furthermore, there are emulators that do read from actual cartridges/discs.
Re: Nintendo Is Apparently Not Involved In The New Switch DRM Initiative
@beazlen1
Yeah, a lot of the older hardware I own has started to break down. I'd love to replace them, but retro gaming is so expensive, it's hard to justify spending so much on used goods.
Apart from that, my eye sight has gotten a lot worse, so I have trouble seeing smaller handheld screens.
Re: Nintendo Is Apparently Not Involved In The New Switch DRM Initiative
@sanderev Emulators don't steal games though. They just let you play them beyond a consoles normal life span. You still have to obtain the games yourself first, hopefully in a legal manner.
Thanks to emulation I'm still able to enjoy all the games I've collected through out my life.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Richnj
So, basically, you admit I'm right.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Ursaking Well yeah, but why not just avoid the games that use Denuvo? Why would you avoid all 3rd party Switch games just because some use Denuvo?
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Wexter Thank you kindly, my fellow commentor 😉. Always a pleasure to see logical thinkers such as yourself as well.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Richnj I can assure you that many of us have put a lot of thought into this topic. Assuming we haven't just because we disagree with you is pretty arrogant.
The difference with used games is that they have been paid for, to the developer, at some point in that copies history. The person who sells the game in turn loses access to it.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Richnj If everyone got the game free then the developer wouldn't get paid for their work. And if they don't get paid then games don't get made. See how that works?
I didn't say piracy doesn't equate to lost sales, I said that current DRM doesn't increase sales. Theres a difference.
Just because something is "harmless" doesn't mean it's not morally wrong. Again, justice is a big part of morality.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@SwitchForce
1. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are trying to say, the way you write is very difficult to understand. I can't tell if you are accusing me of something or not. All the games I emulate are legally purchased and copied.
2. First of all, guns don't kill, people do. But second, my point was that making things illegal doesn't make a difference to criminals anyways. It hurts legal players because they don't have decent games to buy now, but I see your point about voting with your wallet.
3. I didn't say developers aren't hurt by piracy, just that they're smart enough to know DRM doesn't solve the issue. But how does DRM expose pirates anyway? And what does that do to stop them?
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Richnj
It's unjust because one person got something for free that others had to work for.
And I already pointed out that DRM just hurts legal players. Please read some of the previous comments before posting.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Richnj It's morally wrong because it's unjust.
Plus he already said he's fine if people emulate games they pay for.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@sanderev
I've copied like half my library. (Haven't done switch yet but I plan on it.)
It's really not that hard. Why don't you believe that he's done it?
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Wexter Yeah I get that, but I wish people would be more specific with their chose of words. Many of the comments here generalize emulation as piracy, which can hurt legal emulation's reputation.
What makes DRM so frustrating is that it just ends up hurting legal players since pirates will just crack it anyway. Kinda like how banning guns just disarms the innocent.
Although, ultimately, publishers know that DRM doesn't stop piracy. It's just there to reassure investors who don't understand how games work and just want to be assured they'll get their money back. It's just business I guess.
Re: Nintendo Confirms That Splatoon 3's Shiver Identifies As Female
Why would anyone be disappointed that she's a girl? Isn t that kinda sexist?
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
@Ursaking Why? Not even a single developer has said if they'll be using this yet.
Re: New Denuvo 'Switch Emulator Protection' Tech Launches, And Players Are Worried
Why are people assuming all emulation is for piracy? It isn't.
I play a lot of games I've legally purchased and copied myself using emulation. A big part of that is for accessibility. My vision is pretty poor so I struggle with handled screens a lot, even on something like 3DS XL. Emulating lets me actually play the games I've paid for.
Plus, its nice to have all my games on one platform without having to re-buy everything every generation (assuming they're even available).
The fact is a lot of older consoles are dying and the games just aren't being made available for newer platforms. We're getting to the point where emulation is the only way the play some of the older games people own. This isn't an issue for switch right now, but it will be someday.
Re: New Report Alleges Sexual Harassment And Discrimination At Nintendo Of America
@Kimyonaakuma
Then maybe you should have said that in your first comment instead of stereotyping an entire sex while simultaneously complaining about sexism.
Plus, there are people of both genders who act like that in every industry, not just video games. Trust me, you don't need to be gay to be a victim of it.
Re: New Report Alleges Sexual Harassment And Discrimination At Nintendo Of America
@Smt_nerd To be fair, this isn't an issue exclusive to capatalism either.
Re: New Report Alleges Sexual Harassment And Discrimination At Nintendo Of America
@Tupin But men can't do it without being criticized for it either. That's literally what the article does. It doesn't criticize women for it though.
Re: New Report Alleges Sexual Harassment And Discrimination At Nintendo Of America
My favorite part about the kotoku article is how it complains about cronyism right before complaining about accusations of cronyism.
“It’s usually guys [who get promoted]. They’re usually all friends. They watch the Super Bowl together.”
Three paragraphs later:
“The assumption was that if a woman was doing well, it was because she was friends with the right people.”
Re: New Report Alleges Sexual Harassment And Discrimination At Nintendo Of America
@Kimyonaakuma
Got a problem with boys?
Re: Random: Splatoon 3's Shiver Appears To Be Nintendo's First Major Non-Binary Character
@PBandSmelly Okay thanks. that's what I thought it was but someone earlier said it was deeper?
Re: Random: Splatoon 3's Shiver Appears To Be Nintendo's First Major Non-Binary Character
@OrtadragoonX I still don't get it.
Re: Random: Splatoon 3's Shiver Appears To Be Nintendo's First Major Non-Binary Character
@PBandSmelly I'm not sure what your trying to say sorry.
Re: Random: Splatoon 3's Shiver Appears To Be Nintendo's First Major Non-Binary Character
@OrtadragoonX So like a guy with long hair, I guess? Okay thanks.
Re: Random: Splatoon 3's Shiver Appears To Be Nintendo's First Major Non-Binary Character
What does non-binary mean?
Re: Mario Movie Producer Defends Chris Pratt's Casting (Again), Says Movie Is 75% Complete
@ReaperMelia
It's literally mentioned in this article that his heritage is part of the controversy. It's been mentioned before too.
Plus it's not like Martinet is the first person to voice Mario either. Other actors have done a great job playing him too. It's not like Martinet can voice him forever.
And come on, Martinet's voice just isn't suited for a film. Do you really want to listen to this for 2 hours? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1Mu4Ee_c8
Re: Mario Movie Producer Defends Chris Pratt's Casting (Again), Says Movie Is 75% Complete
Seriously? This is what it's come to? People do know "actors" actually are right? Next they'll complain Link isn't played by an actual Hylian.
Why is it fine for a Japanese person make an Italian character, but not okay for a non-Italian to ever play him in a movie? I'm just going to say it. That's pretty racist.
Re: Random: Retro Enthusiasts Accomplish World's First Donkey Kong 2P Kill Screen
Cool but, how is this more impressive than just one person doing it?
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
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Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@relinqued No they're not.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@Snatcher To be completely honest I think the quality of a lot of AAA game these days are about on par with Sonic 06.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@Serpenterror I'm impressed someone actually remembers Sonic Labyrinth lol.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@relinqued They're not "former hackers", they just had a history of making Sonic fan games. They started working with Sega by recreating the genesis games for ios/android.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@Bolt_Strike
Sure there weren't many complaints about Colors and Generations, but there was a ton for Forces and the Colors rerelease. Even when Sega gives people EXACTLY what they asked for people still complain. Forces wasn't any different then Generations, the fact that you think is was kinda just proves my point.
Of course not every single single Sonic game is a copy, but you can't deny Generation has roots to Mario. The whole boost mechanic thing comes from Sonic rush on the DS, which was made to copy Mario Bros. Also, Sonic Boom was developed by an external studio and published by Nintendo, so it really doesn't have much to do with Sega at all.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
@BrianJL To be fair the whole "soothing music" trends comes from Minecraft, Zelda just copied it too. It feels out of place in BoTW too, imho it's one of the games worst aspects.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
Please, Sonic has been "disappointing" people for over 20 years now. When are people going to realize that the Sonic franchise just isn't what they think it is? What exactly do they think it's suppose to be? Another 06, unleashed, lost world, or forces? People hated those too. Even the Colors rerelease was panned.
And don't forget that Sonic games have always intentionally copied Nintendo. Sonic 1 copied Mario Bros, Adventure copied Mario 64, Unleashed copied Twilight Princess, Colors copied NSMB, and Lost World copied Mario Galaxy. We shouldn't be surprised that they're copying BoTW now too. BoTW really isn't very "Zelda" like either,. but it was a fun new direction for the franchise. Frontiers can be the same way for Sonic.
The fact is that Sonic is whatever Sega says it is. It's never been meant to be taken too seriously anyway. Just enjoy it for what it is and have fun.
Re: New Footage From Kirby's Cancelled GameCube Game Emerges
@link3710
It sort of depends on what you count as a "cancelled" game I guess. Really what happened was that there were three prototype iterations before they landed on Return to Dreamland. Two of those prototypes were indeed for GameCube, but I'm not sure it's fair to call them "cancelled" since they were really just part of RtDL's development.
Other than that there was also Roll-O-Rama, a follow up to Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble, that was later changed to a generic non-kirby game before being scrapped altogether.
Re: New Footage From Kirby's Cancelled GameCube Game Emerges
@Link-Hero
No one is trying to make it your problem though. The criticism was about the article, not you.
Re: New Footage From Kirby's Cancelled GameCube Game Emerges
@Link-Hero
It doesn't matter if you understand it or not, the point is that some people do find it offensive. For the record, everyone I know finds it offensive. Just because the people in your life are fine with it doesn't mean everyone is.
Re: New Footage From Kirby's Cancelled GameCube Game Emerges
@Link-Hero
Well as someone who likes to consider themselves to be a reasonable adult myself, I for one find the use of the word to be offensive. In my opinion a reasonable adult would be considerate enough not to use language that could offend other people or make fun of them for finding it offensive. That's called having manners.
Re: Zelda: Twilight Princess HD Dev Would "Love" To Bring The Game To Switch
@Koda1000
This a good point, but I feel like most of the audience for these games probably bought a Wii U. The Wii U versions sold just about as well as any other Zelda release despite Wii U's poor sales. If there was really an audience for them than they probably would have done them instead of Skyward Sword.
Also, if these comments are any indication, then it doesn't sound like most people are willing to spend full price for them anyway. Nintendo doesn't want to sell "budget" games, they want to be seen as a company with the "premium" experience. Plus, cheaper games ultimately cut into the sales for big budget games too.
Re: Zelda: Twilight Princess HD Dev Would "Love" To Bring The Game To Switch
@RaunchyHylian
That seems a little cynical, don't you think? A CEO can't just outright lie about what they're working on. That would amount to market manipulation. If he says they're not working on it, than they're not working on it. Period.
Re: Zelda: Twilight Princess HD Dev Would "Love" To Bring The Game To Switch
I really doubt either of these games are going to be ported anytime soon. BOTW2 is coming early next year (probably a March release along with a new system, similar to the first game), releasing another Zelda this close would be a total waste.
Not to mention that releasing it this summer would pit it against Xenoblade 3, which would hurt sales for both games. A Christmas release would be more likely, but it would be WAY too close to BOTW2 at that point.
Plus I'd kinda think both those games would be a big draw for a potential GameCube service for NSO.
Re: Random: Euphoria Star Hunter Schafer Thinks It "Would Be Cool" To Play Princess Zelda In A Live-Action Movie
Isn't Zelda supposed to be Asian? Just sayin'...
Re: Random: Euphoria Star Hunter Schafer Thinks It "Would Be Cool" To Play Princess Zelda In A Live-Action Movie
I'd like to play Zelda in a movie too, will NLife do an article on me? I'm even an actual fan of the franchise!
Re: Video: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time PC Mod Adds Bombs, Bombs, And More Bombs
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