Just because a person has criticism for a game doesn't mean they aren't a fan, likewise a game can sell great but that doesn't mean that there aren't any problems with it. You have people who really dislike Dexit but are still getting the games because of some other aspect of them, while others don't even fully know/understand what Dexit is yet.
Horrible decision on their part. One of the major features that makes the main series Pokemon games actually stand out from all of it's competition is it's ability to bring all your Pokemon with you to new games. And what have they really added (that we've seen) to justify it so far? Restricted open world maps, a glorified 4 player boss battle against a Pokemon (that's just larger and glowy and can attack more than once), overworld Pokemon that are only in Wild Areas, no following Pokemon (that's been shown yet), no riding Pokemon (that's been shown yet - and they even took the animation of your riding on a Pokemon in the water to replace it with a dull bike), etc. It just seems like what they did with Let's Go when they replaced wild battles with the Go style catching. Took an interesting aspect of the game and replaced with something just watered down and boring.
Not to mention their reasoning just seems weak. They've been reusing roughly the same models since Gen 6 and (so far) seem to still be the same, the animations that have been shown (so far) are just the same walking and running ones that were already designed in Sun/Moon's files, the Switch is a far more powerful system than anything else the Pokemon games have been on before, they're not exactly rushed for time since Nintendo doesn't seem to mind letting major games delay (or start from scratch like Metroid) while they also have that 'patch them in later' option, balance from a PvE angle doesn't really matter since you're still going to have those issues with the Pokemon you actually allow to be ported over (as well as new ones that might have some cheesey build that the devs didn't think about), balance from a competitive angle would be far more efficient to just set up modifiable rules to bar certain Pokemon/skills and such from being able to be used in competitive battles that aren't like local/friend/contacts/casual kinds, and so on.
@Baker1000 Maybe it just made some rounds from people reposting it again on social media and some outlets just took interest in it. In fact, I actually saw a few friends on Facebook sharing some of the timelapse card painting recently.
In terms of physical, the "Starter Pack" versions (like the Arwing one for Switch or the Zenith ones for PS4/XB1, and not to be confused with "Starship Packs" that only have the toys ) come with the full game itself (unless the seller specifies that there's no game included) but the only ships and stuff you'll get are the physical ones included in that specific starter pack. As for digital; the Digital and the Digital Deluxe Edition come with the full game along with various current DLC things (or most all the current DLC in the case of Deluxe Edition), while the DLC Collection 1 pack and the individual DLC is just the DLC stuff only (for like if you already own the game and just want the stuff).
"If I decide to buy the physical version (which comes with less weapons than the digital) can I finish (and enjoy) the game without any problems? "
Depends on what you consider finishing the game. Like there are some puzzles that you won't be able to finish cause it requires a specific weapon elements, but you will be able to finish the game and do most of the stuff (so basically you won't be able to 100% everything so to speak). As for enjoying, I've had fun so far with only the Fox, the Arwing, and the Ice and Fire weapons (I only payed $20 for it on Ebay and really wanted it for the Arwing toy/statue, so my expectations for it are more grounded than say if I payed it's launch $75 price for the starter edition). You level up your character, ship, weapons, and can mod your equipment with drops as well as upgrade outposts and your like hub ship thing (not the one you fly around in but the one where the ships are supposed to be stationed at and where your team operate out of). Plus they have free events where you get temporary access to a character, weapon, and ship to play around with (possibly go and do the puzzles that require that weapon element) and level up for a few days (current one going on atm is Judge, his ship Neptune, and the Levitator weapon from April 5 - April 8). The levels you get carry over if you ever decide to buy that character/weapon/ship.
"I’m just interested in the Star Fox content and will play only with Fox but I’ve heard that you need some specific weapons, that don’t come with the physical version, to defeat some enemies. Is that true?"
It's not that you can't beat them, it's just that there's type advantages to certain enemies. Like you can still damage them, that's no problem. It's just your weapons might not be super effective against certain enemies that are weak against say gravity or something else.
If you get the physical edition, just know that I've seen the Arwing Starter pack go for as low as $15 at Newegg (not including shipping if I remember right) a month ago, so between $15 to $25 seems like a reasonable price for it. As for if you decide to buy the digital stuff, I'm doing just what you're thinking of doing and holding off for discounts. Like they already had a 50% off of the Digital Deluxe ($80 normally, so $40 on sale) and Collection 1 pack ($60 normally, so $30 on sale) back in like December and I think January. So the next time they put Collection 1 on sale for that I think I'll pick it up then.
@maruse I wouldn't say they've 'told Japanese gamers to give up on it', I think it's more that they're focusing their money and efforts into the game itself rather than the physical toys. Like beyond the Starfox stuff and free content releases coming up, they also have various other pilots already unofficially shown (in the game's research pilot level requirements) to be coming out. Like to me this seems like it's them setting their priorities straight and focusing on the content, rather than trying to make physical toys as well that will most likely just be flipped and resold online for cheaper.
@Hikingguy Now the Switch Starter Pack goes for about $25 (I bought mine on Ebay last week for $20 and a month ago Newegg had it on sale for $15). Funny enough though, $75 is about the price ($80) of the Digital Deluxe Edition on the store. It comes with almost all the current ships (doesn't have the Gamestop and Target exclusive though) and almost all the current characters (with the exception of Startail, who was a European preorder exclusive that has yet to officially be released in the states). Plus just a few months ago they had the Digital Deluxe Edition on sale for $40.
Really psyched to hear that! They've done some really good RPGs/monster capture games. I honestly thought it would end up like their other game, Inazuma Eleven 2, and not see a US release. I just really hope they do well given that (I think but can't remember) Yo-Kai Watch 2 didn't do so great in sales in the west and because it's going to the 3DS which has admittedly been loosing parts of it's playerbase/interest because of people moving over to the Switch.
@River3636 I consider myself a fan since Red and Blue and I'm definitely not getting either of these games brand new for full price (if at all). Also the Pokeball Plus is a $50 Joy-Con that you can't use for any other game except Let's Go (and possibly future Pokemon games) and seems like it's controller design isn't very intuitive compared to the standard Joy-Con. Combine that with all the stuff removed (particularly how limited the overall Pokedex is), the fact that this is more of a new spin on a region that's been done numerous times already, and a price tag that is higher than any other main series game; makes this an easy skip for myself.
Really hope this game gets released outside Japan. I really like the art style, I'd love more RPGs for my Switch, and the Cyber Sleuth games' storytelling have actually made me interested in seeing more from them. Also really cool to hear that Survive is separate from the new Digimon Story game being worked on. Can't wait to see what they do with that.
@Jin15 You should check out the Digimon Cyber Sleuth games that have came out over the past couple of years. They're pretty good JRPGs (let alone Digimon games) and have a Shin Megami Tensei type vibe to them (as well as Suzuhito Yasuda; the character designer who worked on the Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor games).
So far it looks really interesting. I wonder if they have Suzuhito Yasuda working on this one? The name and the two character designs shown put me somewhat in mind of his work on the Devil Survivor and Cyber Sleuth games.
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Re: Negative Feedback Gets Us Down But Must Be Taken On Board, Says Pokémon's Junichi Masuda
@johnvboy
Just because a person has criticism for a game doesn't mean they aren't a fan, likewise a game can sell great but that doesn't mean that there aren't any problems with it. You have people who really dislike Dexit but are still getting the games because of some other aspect of them, while others don't even fully know/understand what Dexit is yet.
Re: Pokémon's Junichi Masuda Explains The Decision To Limit Sword And Shield's Pokédex
Horrible decision on their part. One of the major features that makes the main series Pokemon games actually stand out from all of it's competition is it's ability to bring all your Pokemon with you to new games. And what have they really added (that we've seen) to justify it so far? Restricted open world maps, a glorified 4 player boss battle against a Pokemon (that's just larger and glowy and can attack more than once), overworld Pokemon that are only in Wild Areas, no following Pokemon (that's been shown yet), no riding Pokemon (that's been shown yet - and they even took the animation of your riding on a Pokemon in the water to replace it with a dull bike), etc. It just seems like what they did with Let's Go when they replaced wild battles with the Go style catching. Took an interesting aspect of the game and replaced with something just watered down and boring.
Not to mention their reasoning just seems weak. They've been reusing roughly the same models since Gen 6 and (so far) seem to still be the same, the animations that have been shown (so far) are just the same walking and running ones that were already designed in Sun/Moon's files, the Switch is a far more powerful system than anything else the Pokemon games have been on before, they're not exactly rushed for time since Nintendo doesn't seem to mind letting major games delay (or start from scratch like Metroid) while they also have that 'patch them in later' option, balance from a PvE angle doesn't really matter since you're still going to have those issues with the Pokemon you actually allow to be ported over (as well as new ones that might have some cheesey build that the devs didn't think about), balance from a competitive angle would be far more efficient to just set up modifiable rules to bar certain Pokemon/skills and such from being able to be used in competitive battles that aren't like local/friend/contacts/casual kinds, and so on.
Re: This Borderless Pokémon Trading Card Artwork Is Absolutely Stunning
@Baker1000 Maybe it just made some rounds from people reposting it again on social media and some outlets just took interest in it. In fact, I actually saw a few friends on Facebook sharing some of the timelapse card painting recently.
Re: Ubisoft Will Not Release Any Additional Starlink Toys For Future Updates
@maruse
"Does it comes with the full game in the cart?"
In terms of physical, the "Starter Pack" versions (like the Arwing one for Switch or the Zenith ones for PS4/XB1, and not to be confused with "Starship Packs" that only have the toys ) come with the full game itself (unless the seller specifies that there's no game included) but the only ships and stuff you'll get are the physical ones included in that specific starter pack. As for digital; the Digital and the Digital Deluxe Edition come with the full game along with various current DLC things (or most all the current DLC in the case of Deluxe Edition), while the DLC Collection 1 pack and the individual DLC is just the DLC stuff only (for like if you already own the game and just want the stuff).
"If I decide to buy the physical version (which comes with less weapons than the digital) can I finish (and enjoy) the game without any problems? "
Depends on what you consider finishing the game. Like there are some puzzles that you won't be able to finish cause it requires a specific weapon elements, but you will be able to finish the game and do most of the stuff (so basically you won't be able to 100% everything so to speak). As for enjoying, I've had fun so far with only the Fox, the Arwing, and the Ice and Fire weapons (I only payed $20 for it on Ebay and really wanted it for the Arwing toy/statue, so my expectations for it are more grounded than say if I payed it's launch $75 price for the starter edition). You level up your character, ship, weapons, and can mod your equipment with drops as well as upgrade outposts and your like hub ship thing (not the one you fly around in but the one where the ships are supposed to be stationed at and where your team operate out of). Plus they have free events where you get temporary access to a character, weapon, and ship to play around with (possibly go and do the puzzles that require that weapon element) and level up for a few days (current one going on atm is Judge, his ship Neptune, and the Levitator weapon from April 5 - April 8). The levels you get carry over if you ever decide to buy that character/weapon/ship.
"I’m just interested in the Star Fox content and will play only with Fox but I’ve heard that you need some specific weapons, that don’t come with the physical version, to defeat some enemies. Is that true?"
It's not that you can't beat them, it's just that there's type advantages to certain enemies. Like you can still damage them, that's no problem. It's just your weapons might not be super effective against certain enemies that are weak against say gravity or something else.
If you get the physical edition, just know that I've seen the Arwing Starter pack go for as low as $15 at Newegg (not including shipping if I remember right) a month ago, so between $15 to $25 seems like a reasonable price for it. As for if you decide to buy the digital stuff, I'm doing just what you're thinking of doing and holding off for discounts. Like they already had a 50% off of the Digital Deluxe ($80 normally, so $40 on sale) and Collection 1 pack ($60 normally, so $30 on sale) back in like December and I think January. So the next time they put Collection 1 on sale for that I think I'll pick it up then.
Re: Ubisoft Will Not Release Any Additional Starlink Toys For Future Updates
@maruse I wouldn't say they've 'told Japanese gamers to give up on it', I think it's more that they're focusing their money and efforts into the game itself rather than the physical toys. Like beyond the Starfox stuff and free content releases coming up, they also have various other pilots already unofficially shown (in the game's research pilot level requirements) to be coming out. Like to me this seems like it's them setting their priorities straight and focusing on the content, rather than trying to make physical toys as well that will most likely just be flipped and resold online for cheaper.
Re: Ubisoft Will Not Release Any Additional Starlink Toys For Future Updates
@Hikingguy Now the Switch Starter Pack goes for about $25 (I bought mine on Ebay last week for $20 and a month ago Newegg had it on sale for $15). Funny enough though, $75 is about the price ($80) of the Digital Deluxe Edition on the store. It comes with almost all the current ships (doesn't have the Gamestop and Target exclusive though) and almost all the current characters (with the exception of Startail, who was a European preorder exclusive that has yet to officially be released in the states). Plus just a few months ago they had the Digital Deluxe Edition on sale for $40.
Re: Yo-Kai Watch 3 Is Finally Headed To Europe And North America This Winter
Really psyched to hear that! They've done some really good RPGs/monster capture games. I honestly thought it would end up like their other game, Inazuma Eleven 2, and not see a US release. I just really hope they do well given that (I think but can't remember) Yo-Kai Watch 2 didn't do so great in sales in the west and because it's going to the 3DS which has admittedly been loosing parts of it's playerbase/interest because of people moving over to the Switch.
Re: Let's Go Pikachu And Eevee Videos Show How Different Pokémon Types Will Follow The Trainer
@River3636 I consider myself a fan since Red and Blue and I'm definitely not getting either of these games brand new for full price (if at all). Also the Pokeball Plus is a $50 Joy-Con that you can't use for any other game except Let's Go (and possibly future Pokemon games) and seems like it's controller design isn't very intuitive compared to the standard Joy-Con. Combine that with all the stuff removed (particularly how limited the overall Pokedex is), the fact that this is more of a new spin on a region that's been done numerous times already, and a price tag that is higher than any other main series game; makes this an easy skip for myself.
Re: Video: Here's Footage Of Bandai Namco's Digimon Survive Coming To Switch
Really hope this game gets released outside Japan. I really like the art style, I'd love more RPGs for my Switch, and the Cyber Sleuth games' storytelling have actually made me interested in seeing more from them. Also really cool to hear that Survive is separate from the new Digimon Story game being worked on. Can't wait to see what they do with that.
Re: Video: Here's Footage Of Bandai Namco's Digimon Survive Coming To Switch
@Jin15 You should check out the Digimon Cyber Sleuth games that have came out over the past couple of years. They're pretty good JRPGs (let alone Digimon games) and have a Shin Megami Tensei type vibe to them (as well as Suzuhito Yasuda; the character designer who worked on the Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor games).
Re: Get A First Look At Digimon Survive's Story And Battles With These Official Screenshots
So far it looks really interesting. I wonder if they have Suzuhito Yasuda working on this one? The name and the two character designs shown put me somewhat in mind of his work on the Devil Survivor and Cyber Sleuth games.