@SCAR392 My previous comment wasn't necessarily talking about horsepower of the console.You do however bring up a good point about free online on Wii U but again the userbase might not be accepting of getting this version.
@SCAR392 But why do you assume that Cod will sell better on Wii U this year? Because of the higher userbase? Just because the numbers are higher doens't mean it will sell better. The Wii CoD games are proof of this.
@SCAR392 I see where you are coming from but honestly sales do matter. If a 3rd party saw that games like ZombiU or Batman sold a lot higher than they did then they would probably put their games on Wii U as they would be able to make a profit but since that's not the case, they won't make any games for Wii U.
@SCAR392 But Wii U owners already had the chance to prove they will buy mature 3rd party games at launch with ZombiU, Batman, Assassin's Creed, CoD,etc. and all of them sold poorly(ZombiU was the only one to break half a million).
@SCAR392 How are 3rd parties at fault? Nintendo don't have the necessary demographic or sales for 3rd parties to be successful on the console so waste money for something that won't be helpful to anyone?
Well he's not entirely wrong. Miyamoto has seemed to have lost his touch but to say that Apple runs the gaming world and to disrespect Steve Jobs like that is....deplorable.
@Yorumi Being underpowered isn't a Nintendo only thing. Remember the PSX and PS2 were underpowered compared to the competition back then. Obviously the PC is the best graphics you can get for games, I think most gamers now that. Nintendo to me did not do everything possible because if they had more 3rd parties would have been onboard. Also if Nintendo had been researching HD development they wouldn't have been so behind in their game development.
@Yorumi Those games are important I will give you that but for every game that we are getting we're losing like 3 more. Destiny,BF4,The Division,Kingdom Hearts 3,FFXV,MGS V,Mirror's Edge 2,etc. Wii U fans shouldn't have to stand for lack of 3rd party support due to Nintendo's stubborn ways. All those games I listed are just scratching the surface of what we're NOT getting. Are you saying you are ok with missing all these just to get a few 3rd party games from Japanese companies that we already now would support Nintendo in some way?
@Yorumi Well then like I said earlier can you tell me the amount of 3rd party games announced at E3 for Wii U then? If i'm only focusing on an "extremely narrow fraction" then this shouldn't be a problem for you to answer.
@Unit_DTH Whether or not 3rd parties decide that people shouldn't own multiple consoles to play different games, one thing is clear. Nintendo aren't receiving any of their games and that's a HUGE problem. How many of the games announced at E3 are coming to Nintendo consoles?
@Yorumi The reason why is because most 3rd party games now(unfortunately) are FPS's and that's why people usually bring them up when referring to 3rd parties. The PS360 audience is most familiar with those games and that's what sells hence why people want those games on Nintendo consoles. Not only that but if the western market sees a spike in mature game sales on Nintendo then Japanese developers might bring over their games as well(Final Fantasy,Kingdom Hearts,Street Fighter,etc.)
@Unit_DTH While yes those games will increase the overall userbase, I doubt that the same people who buy NSMB or Kirby are likely to buy Battlefield 4 or Destiny. Hence why 3rd parties see no reason to bring their games to Wii U, because they wouldn't sell very well. ZombiU is a perfect example of this.
More Nintendo games isn't solving the issue with 3rd parties! Mario or Kirby isn't telling 3rd parties that dudebros or the "mainstream" audience will buy their games, its saying that Nintendo fanboys will buy Nintendo games. What Wii U needs is mature 3rd party exclusives that sell well to entice 3rd parties and let them now that their games DO have a user base on Nintendo console.
The company may not be suffering but your fans are. Telling us to "please understand" and "be patient" is not a good business strategy for support. Especially for a DOA console like Wii U.
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Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@SCAR392 My previous comment wasn't necessarily talking about horsepower of the console.You do however bring up a good point about free online on Wii U but again the userbase might not be accepting of getting this version.
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@SCAR392 But why do you assume that Cod will sell better on Wii U this year? Because of the higher userbase? Just because the numbers are higher doens't mean it will sell better. The Wii CoD games are proof of this.
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@SCAR392 I see where you are coming from but honestly sales do matter. If a 3rd party saw that games like ZombiU or Batman sold a lot higher than they did then they would probably put their games on Wii U as they would be able to make a profit but since that's not the case, they won't make any games for Wii U.
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@SCAR392 But Wii U owners already had the chance to prove they will buy mature 3rd party games at launch with ZombiU, Batman, Assassin's Creed, CoD,etc. and all of them sold poorly(ZombiU was the only one to break half a million).
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@SCAR392 How are 3rd parties at fault? Nintendo don't have the necessary demographic or sales for 3rd parties to be successful on the console so waste money for something that won't be helpful to anyone?
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
Its nice to want things, Nintendo but if you don't try well then you'll never reach your goal.
Re: Splinter Cell Creator Tom Clancy Passes Away Aged 66
RIP
Re: Weirdness: Here's a Team Fortress 2 Star Fox Deathmatch Mod
Better than anything Nintendo will give us.
Re: Extended Nintendo Network and Miiverse Maintenance Confirmed for 30th September
Re: EA Executive: Shigeru Miyamoto is 'Falling Down on the Job'
@Kidhero99 BTW does anyone know where this gif originated from? I've always wondered.
Re: EA Executive: Shigeru Miyamoto is 'Falling Down on the Job'
@TheOneHacker Are you really that surprised?
Re: EA Executive: Shigeru Miyamoto is 'Falling Down on the Job'
Well he's not entirely wrong. Miyamoto has seemed to have lost his touch but to say that Apple runs the gaming world and to disrespect Steve Jobs like that is....deplorable.
Re: Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Games is Sliding Onto Wii U This November
Despite never playing this series this one seems interesting. Can anyone who's played recent entries tell me if its worth it?
Re: Wii U UK Software Sales on an Upward Trend, But Have a Long Way to Go
@maceng Hey, I'm trying to be a bit more positive. Normally I'd be a LOT more negative about this kind of thing.
Re: Wii U UK Software Sales on an Upward Trend, But Have a Long Way to Go
Well, at least its improving, slightly.
Re: Shin'en: If Developers Can't Make Great Looking Games On Wii U, It's Their Own Fault
@CaPPa Wii U owners seem to boast about Indies all the time like they're the best thing since sliced bread, so...
Re: Shin'en: If Developers Can't Make Great Looking Games On Wii U, It's Their Own Fault
@Ren This person gets it
Re: Shin'en: If Developers Can't Make Great Looking Games On Wii U, It's Their Own Fault
Then why not show us a game with this "powerful" hardware,Shin'en? I'll believe it when I see it.
Re: A Hat in Time Developer Teases Good News For The Wii U
God I hope it comes to Wii U. I need this game! So good.
Re: SoulCalibur II HD On Wii U "Isn't Out Of The Question", Says Series Producer
Well considering Nintendo fan's opinions towards 3rd parties....Never happening
Re: Nintendo's Former President, Hiroshi Yamauchi, Has Passed Away
Tis' a sad day today.
The death of a legend ~ RIP
Re: Dan Adelman - Nintendo is "Very Much Aware" of Demand for a Unified Account System
Yeah...sure you are. That's why its been a full console generation for you to notice. Just shut up, Nintendo.
Re: Video: The Wind Waker HD's New Features Are Shown Off, Along With Gorgeous Visuals
@Senario Probably both of those things plus NOA is just all around incompetent.
Re: Video: The Wind Waker HD's New Features Are Shown Off, Along With Gorgeous Visuals
Thank god for hero mode! Now I can play a Zelda game that isn't a walk in the park. I need this game!
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Will Allow You To Dress Up As Link Through Collaborative DLC
Maybe now we can control Link in a game where the controls are half decent.
Re: Video: Sonic Lost World Trailer Shows Off Multiplayer and Miiverse Sharing
The more I see of this game the more hyped I get! Screw SM3DW this will be my go-to platformer this year(next to Rayman Legends).
Re: More Evidence Emerges of a Wind Waker HD Wii U Bundle
@DePapier Heck no to the price drop or the bundle itself?
Re: More Evidence Emerges of a Wind Waker HD Wii U Bundle
This sounds like a swell deal but seriously, $350? No thanks maybe if they drop it by like $50
Re: Wii U Research & Development Costs May "Undermine Profitability"
Considering this is Iwata running the company, my expectations couldn't be any lower.
Re: Satoru Iwata Emphasizes Nintendo's Desire to Produce Products That "Resonate" With Consumers
Well that Wii U console sure is resonating with the consumer-oh wait...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Financial Results Tell a Tale of Two Systems and Bold Ambition
I wonder when all the Nintendo cannons will finally admit this console is a bomb?
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Daz-brum Yup. Them dudebros and casuals LOVE the Wii U!
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Yorumi Being underpowered isn't a Nintendo only thing. Remember the PSX and PS2 were underpowered compared to the competition back then. Obviously the PC is the best graphics you can get for games, I think most gamers now that. Nintendo to me did not do everything possible because if they had more 3rd parties would have been onboard. Also if Nintendo had been researching HD development they wouldn't have been so behind in their game development.
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Yorumi Those games are important I will give you that but for every game that we are getting we're losing like 3 more. Destiny,BF4,The Division,Kingdom Hearts 3,FFXV,MGS V,Mirror's Edge 2,etc. Wii U fans shouldn't have to stand for lack of 3rd party support due to Nintendo's stubborn ways. All those games I listed are just scratching the surface of what we're NOT getting. Are you saying you are ok with missing all these just to get a few 3rd party games from Japanese companies that we already now would support Nintendo in some way?
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Yorumi Well then like I said earlier can you tell me the amount of 3rd party games announced at E3 for Wii U then? If i'm only focusing on an "extremely narrow fraction" then this shouldn't be a problem for you to answer.
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Unit_DTH Whether or not 3rd parties decide that people shouldn't own multiple consoles to play different games, one thing is clear. Nintendo aren't receiving any of their games and that's a HUGE problem. How many of the games announced at E3 are coming to Nintendo consoles?
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Yorumi The reason why is because most 3rd party games now(unfortunately) are FPS's and that's why people usually bring them up when referring to 3rd parties. The PS360 audience is most familiar with those games and that's what sells hence why people want those games on Nintendo consoles. Not only that but if the western market sees a spike in mature game sales on Nintendo then Japanese developers might bring over their games as well(Final Fantasy,Kingdom Hearts,Street Fighter,etc.)
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
@Unit_DTH While yes those games will increase the overall userbase, I doubt that the same people who buy NSMB or Kirby are likely to buy Battlefield 4 or Destiny. Hence why 3rd parties see no reason to bring their games to Wii U, because they wouldn't sell very well. ZombiU is a perfect example of this.
Re: Soapbox: When It Comes To Software Support, The Grass Isn't Always Greener
More Nintendo games isn't solving the issue with 3rd parties! Mario or Kirby isn't telling 3rd parties that dudebros or the "mainstream" audience will buy their games, its saying that Nintendo fanboys will buy Nintendo games. What Wii U needs is mature 3rd party exclusives that sell well to entice 3rd parties and let them now that their games DO have a user base on Nintendo console.
Re: Talking Point: Pikmin 3 Shows the First Shoots of the Wii U's Planned Recovery
@Subie98 At this point I doubt it.
Re: Talking Point: Pikmin 3 Shows the First Shoots of the Wii U's Planned Recovery
I think some people are over-reacting as Peach64 said about this sale increase. Its really not that much in the grand scheme of things.
Re: New 3DS eShop App Brings Voice and Text Chat to Japan
You think in this day and age Nintendo would have features like this on an OS level but Nintendo.
Re: European Development Support For Nintendo Systems Lags Behind Rivals
lol Wii U!
Re: Satoru Iwata Refutes Claim That Nintendo Is "Suffering" Right Now
The company may not be suffering but your fans are. Telling us to "please understand" and "be patient" is not a good business strategy for support. Especially for a DOA console like Wii U.
Re: Video: Sonic Busts Out Some Colours Moves in This New Lost World Trailer
Looks gorgeous! Can't wait for this!
Re: 3DS UK Success in 2013 Offset by Abysmal Wii U Figures
@Justaguest You think Nintendo ever learns from their mistakes? Because if they did they would never be in this situation in the first place.
Re: 3DS UK Success in 2013 Offset by Abysmal Wii U Figures
Iwata, please just GTFO of Nintendo. You've caused enough damage.
Re: Ubisoft: Nintendo Has The Brand Power To Turn Wii U Around
They might have the brand power but certainly not the intelligence...
Re: Wii U Summer System Update Pushed Back To The Fall
Please understand, that we delay patches now.
Re: Platinum's Hideki Kamiya Claims He Doesn't Own A Wii U
Not even devs want a Wii U! /Sarcasm