@Kriven It "lacking charm" contort from critics will always baffle me. Rextro himself is the most charming character of the decade. It could use some polishing not going to lie. With that said, if people can forgive the misgivings of countless glitchy open world RPGs than I'm not sure why they can't do the same with a small indie-developed 3D platformer.
The game is clearly a victim of hype and, to this day and age, is the most determining factor for a game's success. If A Hat in Time, a great game BTW, had the hype rested on its shoulders as the "savior" of 3D platformers then it would've been received as unfairly as YL did.
Granted, YL had a higher budget than AHiT (which I have a hunch they used a lot of that money for the bulk of their own infrastructure), but no one takes into account how long AHiT was in development for compared to YL. Not that excuses Playtonic or anything. They definitely should've left it in the oven a bit more, but the fact they made the game as good as it was shows this team still has talent. And they are already on their next game. I'm hyped for whatever they have next, and I can only hope they can knock it out of the park once again.
@steventonysmith As alien as it might be, it's the truth. My truth.
Say if I was disappointed in YL, I still wouldn't have regretted supporting the fellow developers who for the most part are responsible for one of my favorite games ever. They have already started out better than when RARE (Ultimate Play the Game) first started out.
@steventonysmith Great level design and polish can't save the copius amount of repetitive padding ever to have graced a collectathon. SMO has an excellent main game, but this here is no evolution to the genre. It's bigger step back than DK64 in terms of collecting.
It helps my expectations were low with Yooka Laylee which was developed in a span of 2 years with a small team. YL was consistent whereas Odyssey pulled the rug right out from under me.
@sanderev @halljames @steventonysmith Contrary to popular belief, there are people like me who absolutely adores this game. I normally don't 100% games, but damn this game was a treat. Odyssey might be a better game, but as a collectathon Yooka Laylee is superior.
@VolcanoFlamesNL MK8 wasn't a huge disappointment, but it lacked a proper battle mode and the roster sucked. Smash For U is a big disappointment because they sacrificed content for competitive gameplay, but it is not even good at doing that. Project M/Melee is better when it comes to that. It lacks adventure mode, and modes such as Allstar and Classic are repetitive if you played the 3DS version. Other nitpicks include Clonedorf, 3 terrible clones, and the mistreatment of franchises such as F-Zero, Mother, Star Fox, Metroid, and DK. It is a rushed job and is, perhaps, one of the worst Nintendo games I have ever played. IMO.
Bayonetta 2, DKCTF, and Shovel Knight were definitely the best games to come out this year on Wii U. While B2 and DKCTF hardly changed much, they are games you don't get everyday and haven't wore off their freshness, unlike Smash and Kart which have become very boring as time progresses.
Since MK8 and Smash were huge disappointments (especially Smash, yuck), Bayonetta 2, DKCTF, and Shovel Knight were the best overall games this year. I need to play Hyrule Warriors, Shantae, and Wolfenstein. I have no interest in Dragon Age and Shadow of Mordor is definitely not GOTY potential. 2014 kinda sucked.
''I worry about them a little at the moment because I feel as though their habit of treading the same ground again and again is catching up with them in places. I reviewed Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, for instance, and that is a game that is technically superior to its predecessor but still feels less essential. I hope that sort of thing remains the exception rather than becoming the rule.''
I don't understand this at all. I swear DK gets the most disrespect from any series I've seen. I don't know how this guy feels about the new 2D Mario games, but if I had a choice between the two it would be DKC. Why in the **** did he single out DK? Sure, DKCTF added very little, but I could say the same for MK8, SSB for Wii U, New SMB series, and DEFINITELY Rayman Legends. All I heard was ''it should have been Metroid'' since it is the only reason why you would hate on this masterpiece.
@JaxonH You speak my language. Gamers are, dare I say it, spoiled. When DKCTF was announced, there was nothing but hate and disdain for it just because it wasn't ''Star Fox'' or ''another Metroid''. Some here even want it to fail so that Retro can stop making DKC games. It broke my heart.
@Doma Yep because its level design wasn't fresh or creative at all. Its not like the area's surrounding affected the gameplay. Not to mention they brought back the buddy system from the past DKC games. Why can't they develop a new mechanic like tag teaming?
In a way, I am kinda glad Donkey Kong Racing wasn't released. I feel that the Racing genre was Diddy's thing not DKs. I hope Nintendo releases a new Diddy Kong Racing in the future.
''We didn't ask for this game'' No one asks for alot of games but we still get them. Why is DK getting singled out as if its the worst thing to possibly come out.
Shooters are way more saturated on the other platforms and yet I rarely hear their fanbases complain. I would never thought I would hear the day when Nintendo fans actually complain about having too much platformers. There is only 4 I know of that are worth playing: Rayman Legends, NSMBU, SM3DW, and DKC TF. You guys really do take matters worse than it actually is. lol!
A snowstorm blew across Japan, DKCR was released around christmas, and Wii U install base isn't great not to mention only 3 days worth of sales not a week. The sales are pretty good for a game in that type of position.
Have you seen Ghost in the Shell? If you have then you know what I fear. The web is very influential to the point where people lose their sense of self. Sure you have your own opinions, but did you decide that for yourself?
And like I said 3 days in total sales, not a whole week. Yet people scream ''bomb'' because of ignorance. It hasn't been released in the U.S. or U.K. so give it time.
''Its not metroid'' ''I want DK to fail because it will teach Nintendo a lesson'' ''DK is just another Platformer'' ''DK is not what the Wii U needs'' ''No Innovation''
Its as if the Web had one brain and shared the same thoughts. Please enough with these generic opinions! When did Nintendo fans become robots? geez
MAN! DK has 2 games in over nearly a decade and people are already tired of it? What did DK do to derserve this? DK is better than most 2D platformers so I don't know where the complaints are coming from other than the people who say ''It isn't Metroid''. Some of you call yourself Nintendo fans and you want this to fail? JEEZUS!
Also note that this doesn't count as a whole week. 3 days worth of total sales.
I only know of the Kotaku article and you refering Diddy as the ''Scrappy Doo'' of the Kongs. Everybody I know prefers him over DK because we all know who the true hero of the series is. Heck, most people who played DKCR killed of DK in 2 player just to play the superior Kong.
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Re: Yooka-Laylee Physical Editions Sell Out In Minutes, One Last Chance To Pre-Order Later Today
@Kriven
It "lacking charm" contort from critics will always baffle me. Rextro himself is the most charming character of the decade. It could use some polishing not going to lie. With that said, if people can forgive the misgivings of countless glitchy open world RPGs than I'm not sure why they can't do the same with a small indie-developed 3D platformer.
The game is clearly a victim of hype and, to this day and age, is the most determining factor for a game's success. If A Hat in Time, a great game BTW, had the hype rested on its shoulders as the "savior" of 3D platformers then it would've been received as unfairly as YL did.
Granted, YL had a higher budget than AHiT (which I have a hunch they used a lot of that money for the bulk of their own infrastructure), but no one takes into account how long AHiT was in development for compared to YL. Not that excuses Playtonic or anything. They definitely should've left it in the oven a bit more, but the fact they made the game as good as it was shows this team still has talent. And they are already on their next game. I'm hyped for whatever they have next, and I can only hope they can knock it out of the park once again.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Physical Editions Sell Out In Minutes, One Last Chance To Pre-Order Later Today
@steventonysmith
Fair enough, human.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Physical Editions Sell Out In Minutes, One Last Chance To Pre-Order Later Today
@steventonysmith
As alien as it might be, it's the truth. My truth.
Say if I was disappointed in YL, I still wouldn't have regretted supporting the fellow developers who for the most part are responsible for one of my favorite games ever. They have already started out better than when RARE (Ultimate Play the Game) first started out.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Physical Editions Sell Out In Minutes, One Last Chance To Pre-Order Later Today
@mist
Trust me. It's been fixed.
@steventonysmith
Great level design and polish can't save the copius amount of repetitive padding ever to have graced a collectathon. SMO has an excellent main game, but this here is no evolution to the genre. It's bigger step back than DK64 in terms of collecting.
It helps my expectations were low with Yooka Laylee which was developed in a span of 2 years with a small team. YL was consistent whereas Odyssey pulled the rug right out from under me.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Physical Editions Sell Out In Minutes, One Last Chance To Pre-Order Later Today
@sanderev @halljames @steventonysmith
Contrary to popular belief, there are people like me who absolutely adores this game. I normally don't 100% games, but damn this game was a treat. Odyssey might be a better game, but as a collectathon Yooka Laylee is superior.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Pro Players Tackle the Problem of Diddy Kong
@ChuJelly You got good taste.
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Smash Bros. Game?
Project M, no contest. But since it is not an option, Melee since the gameplay is actually fun.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Staff Awards 2014
@VolcanoFlamesNL MK8 wasn't a huge disappointment, but it lacked a proper battle mode and the roster sucked. Smash For U is a big disappointment because they sacrificed content for competitive gameplay, but it is not even good at doing that. Project M/Melee is better when it comes to that. It lacks adventure mode, and modes such as Allstar and Classic are repetitive if you played the 3DS version. Other nitpicks include Clonedorf, 3 terrible clones, and the mistreatment of franchises such as F-Zero, Mother, Star Fox, Metroid, and DK. It is a rushed job and is, perhaps, one of the worst Nintendo games I have ever played. IMO.
Bayonetta 2, DKCTF, and Shovel Knight were definitely the best games to come out this year on Wii U. While B2 and DKCTF hardly changed much, they are games you don't get everyday and haven't wore off their freshness, unlike Smash and Kart which have become very boring as time progresses.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Staff Awards 2014
Since MK8 and Smash were huge disappointments (especially Smash, yuck), Bayonetta 2, DKCTF, and Shovel Knight were the best overall games this year. I need to play Hyrule Warriors, Shantae, and Wolfenstein. I have no interest in Dragon Age and Shadow of Mordor is definitely not GOTY potential. 2014 kinda sucked.
Re: Ninterview: Tom Bramwell On Nintendo and 15 Years at Eurogamer
''I worry about them a little at the moment because I feel as though their habit of treading the same ground again and again is catching up with them in places. I reviewed Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, for instance, and that is a game that is technically superior to its predecessor but still feels less essential. I hope that sort of thing remains the exception rather than becoming the rule.''
I don't understand this at all. I swear DK gets the most disrespect from any series I've seen. I don't know how this guy feels about the new 2D Mario games, but if I had a choice between the two it would be DKC. Why in the **** did he single out DK? Sure, DKCTF added very little, but I could say the same for MK8, SSB for Wii U, New SMB series, and DEFINITELY Rayman Legends. All I heard was ''it should have been Metroid'' since it is the only reason why you would hate on this masterpiece.
Re: Month Of Kong: Whatever Happened To Donkey Kong Racing?
@polivar4 Barrel Blast was proof. Besides, Diddy needs his own series like Luigi and Yoshi has theirs.
Re: Microsoft's Ken Lobb: Metroid Prime Wouldn't Have Been Made If Nintendo Had Listened To The Fans
@JaxonH You speak my language. Gamers are, dare I say it, spoiled. When DKCTF was announced, there was nothing but hate and disdain for it just because it wasn't ''Star Fox'' or ''another Metroid''. Some here even want it to fail so that Retro can stop making DKC games. It broke my heart.
Re: Microsoft's Ken Lobb: Metroid Prime Wouldn't Have Been Made If Nintendo Had Listened To The Fans
@Doma Yep because its level design wasn't fresh or creative at all. Its not like the area's surrounding affected the gameplay. Not to mention they brought back the buddy system from the past DKC games. Why can't they develop a new mechanic like tag teaming?
sarcasm
Re: Nintendo Bringing Pokémon to the Midwest Gaming Classic
Pokken fighters?
Re: Retro Studios Talks Up Wii U And Has Been Working On A New Title Since November
If it is another DK game, I hope its a 3D DK game. Diddy Kong Racing 2 should be developed by Monster Games.
Re: Month Of Kong: Whatever Happened To Donkey Kong Racing?
In a way, I am kinda glad Donkey Kong Racing wasn't released. I feel that the Racing genre was Diddy's thing not DKs. I hope Nintendo releases a new Diddy Kong Racing in the future.
Re: Donkey Kong Country's Fate Was Determined By A Risky Rare Investment
I wish Nintendo will re-release the DKC trilogy with an HD upgrade. It would be so sweet!
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Makes Top 10 Début in UK All-Format Charts
I like how some are turning this as something negative. This doesn't count as a full week also. The sales are great considering the situation.
Re: Mario Golf: World Tour Takes The Actions Under The Sea
''No one asked for this game''
DK got unfairly bashed so I might as well be ignorant also.
Re: Diddy Kong Confirmed as the Latest New Challenger for Super Smash Bros.
FUN FACTS: Out of the 5 DKC games, Diddy has been playable in every one except for DKC3. DK has only been playable in 3. Weird isn't?
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
DK is getting way more hate than it deserves.
''We didn't ask for this game'' No one asks for alot of games but we still get them. Why is DK getting singled out as if its the worst thing to possibly come out.
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
Shooters are way more saturated on the other platforms and yet I rarely hear their fanbases complain. I would never thought I would hear the day when Nintendo fans actually complain about having too much platformers. There is only 4 I know of that are worth playing: Rayman Legends, NSMBU, SM3DW, and DKC TF. You guys really do take matters worse than it actually is. lol!
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
A snowstorm blew across Japan, DKCR was released around christmas, and Wii U install base isn't great not to mention only 3 days worth of sales not a week. The sales are pretty good for a game in that type of position.
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
Have you seen Ghost in the Shell? If you have then you know what I fear. The web is very influential to the point where people lose their sense of self. Sure you have your own opinions, but did you decide that for yourself?
And like I said 3 days in total sales, not a whole week. Yet people scream ''bomb'' because of ignorance. It hasn't been released in the U.S. or U.K. so give it time.
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
''Its not metroid''
''I want DK to fail because it will teach Nintendo a lesson''
''DK is just another Platformer''
''DK is not what the Wii U needs''
''No Innovation''
Its as if the Web had one brain and shared the same thoughts. Please enough with these generic opinions! When did Nintendo fans become robots? geez
Re: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Only Sells Just Over 35,000 Units in Japanese Launch
MAN! DK has 2 games in over nearly a decade and people are already tired of it? What did DK do to derserve this? DK is better than most 2D platformers so I don't know where the complaints are coming from other than the people who say ''It isn't Metroid''. Some of you call yourself Nintendo fans and you want this to fail? JEEZUS!
Also note that this doesn't count as a whole week. 3 days worth of total sales.
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
@Henmii
Diddy sounds like a normal monkey. Its a lot better than what he used to sound like. Kiddy over Diddy? Really? Youz crazy!
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
@Capt_N
Diddy and Dixie are confirmed boyfriend and girlfriend. Not Cousins.
And where is DK Jr.?
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
I only know of the Kotaku article and you refering Diddy as the ''Scrappy Doo'' of the Kongs. Everybody I know prefers him over DK because we all know who the true hero of the series is. Heck, most people who played DKCR killed of DK in 2 player just to play the superior Kong.
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
Stanley the Bugman needs to come back. I miss him. Diddy Kong is my favorite and all around best kong in terms of gameplay.
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
Don't forget about DK Jr.
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
DK Jr. is also missing. The current DK is not DK Jr.
Re: Month Of Kong: Meet Donkey Kong's Extended Family
Eh, Diddy and Donkey aren't related at all. You need to change that. Gameinformer said the same thing and it got on my nerves, lol.