Malkeor

GameInformer did a response to this, and i'll quote the editor that did:
"It's true that Nintendo's Wii U has failed to live up to sales expectations, and Nintendo's relevance in the handheld market also seems to be waning. I don't want to say I agree with Bushnell, but Nintendo does face some very serious challenges in the next few years. I'd hate to see Ninendo become obsolete, because they've been an integral part of the gaming landscape for decades, but the industry has continued to evolve and Nintendo rarely keeps pace with modern innovations. Sure the company is innovative in it's own way, but the Wii U hasn't caught enough interest to justify its production. I hope Nintendo has a few surprises up it's sleve for the next year, because I still want to believe that Nintendo is a champ that can climb back to the top."

He has a point you know. It doesn't matter how much you love Nintendo's games, there is a truth to the hardware side of things.
Besides this guy WOULD know about this...so he knows first hand. He's not just some old fool speaking nonsense.

I think it would be best if they gave you at least a pack of 3 of something, like each one would be a different Nintendo pattern. That's just me though

You know the 2nd guy defiantly has a point...I mean it was a limited shipment and it's the holiday season so why should any of us be surprised ?

I'm tired of people pulling the power card. Sooner of later people have to realize that gameplay/controls/ways to play and online features are what truly makes a system stand out from the rest. In the best way possible.

I for one don't crave power in my consoles or other devices...I have my $1500 PC for that

Read this just now on GI, and it's TOTALLY possible.
Loving it. To make it more believable there's DQX on there

I like achievements for some things...for some reason I only cared about them in MMOs like WoW, GW2, and then SC2.

For my PS3 I actually don't care a whole ton. I like when I get a notification it's like "ah cool" but I don't really go out and hunt them down or anything afterwards.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/10/nintendo_phones_and_tablets_arent_games_devices#comment1314737

heh...

What happened to when games were interesting and fun by our own thoughts and feelings rather than review score?
If you were excited for it just BUY IT

Not much different? I think this is pretty different comparing the other games in the series!

SO EXCITED FOR THIS
This will actually be the only game I will buy since Kid Icarus xD

Lol....
All I gotta say.

Some things just need to stay on the PC. For many reasons.

So friggin excited...all I want are games and continued support.
And anything Shiggy, EAD, and Retro works on is an absolute must play.

GI is still doing fine with their print version but only because they had options.
Why didn't NP have a digital option? How is the brand very strong when it didn't seem like any effort was put forth to keep it going? It still wasn't anything like the old NP...so what gives?

Yep read this in the GI magazine.

And please don't give them last names for whoever is still doing it.
Just remember that is spawned because of that awful movie...JUST REMEMBER!

@TechnoEA

Well if I was going to wrestle with the competition I wouldn't say something as stupid as that. That's all it really is. Stupid.
Just think for a moment what was said.

I own Sony and Nintendo platforms too...but when you see stupid, there's really no other word for it.

"One major point in Wii U's favour is that the GamePad screen and the console are directly integrated together, so it's a standard for games and a natural part of a title's development; as Vita and PS3 are two separate pieces of hardware, there are likely to be different challenges in development."

You hit the nail on the head with this. I mean it's retarded for them to say that because first of all it's ridiculous to assume you can compete using two separate pieces of hardware to achieve the same thing.
Absolutely dumb. Sony you fail.

Well it doesn't have much competition in the innovative category...wait till we have new systems to make the final call.
It's like having a black dude in a class full of white kids and the teach goes "grats! You're the blackest person in this class!" (crude example)

But ...Nintendo does win by default for now. I have faith, but I can already smell the copy cats. Oh Sony i'm looking at you....
I hope Nintendo continues to innovate and go their own path, it's truly the best thing they do.

I don't think $60 is an unfair amount of money.

That's as long as Nintendo up holds its quality on value and if it really seems like a game is worth it or not. That's, of course, all up to the player. You think it's worth $60 or not.
Not all games ARE quality. I don't care who you are, but that is why I also think games should be priced according to what the developer sees fit. Yes...even if it's a retail game. Nintendo should look at these games though, and be honest about if it's being too much (Ninjabread man at $49....) but this is all a dream that might not come true.

The problem I have with freemium games is that there is almost always a Cash Shop of some kind. You use real life money to pay for accessories and upgrades and decoration, etc anything you can imagine.
I loathe that system with a passion.

Also with rising development costs, how else are they going to pay off their game?
You buy it with that premium price tag. I honestly don't see a problem with it, because it's been happening for so long now, and if it's a third party publisher the prices usually drop anyway fairly quickly.

This...isn't a doom statement from him. It actually makes perfect sense, at least to me.
Why is this considered a doom and gloom prediction again?

The Wii U MIGHT have a year or two of fantastic sales, but even then I would be surprised. I've learned not to expect too much. I just hope Nintendo knows what they are doing and the still lack of information is frustrating.

The gap in graphics may be a littler narrower but only because everyone now has adopted HD.
That doesn't say anything about the hardware....things aren't photo-realistic yet, and there's pleeeenty of improvement in the graphics department for games, even for the current PC genre. (btw low/high settings for PC games reveal fantastic differences for MANY games)
Just take a look at the next-gen real-time demos. I'm pretty sure they aren't talking about Wii-U...but this is what developers are going to start doing. It would be silly to think we would still lag behind in the PS3/360 hardware level for long, and I doubt many developers are going to stay once the new engines become more widely used. So the gap might still be there eventually.
Games? Well depending on how these games look I don't see a simple port happening. Unless it's Call of Duty. This just depends on the scaling ability of the engine, which is largely unknown except for Unreal 4.
Also Unreal Engine 4 is still up in the air, even though it's going to be really scalable, I just hope the devs are willing to tweak the game to be able to port and take advantage of the Wii U.

The two widely different control methods are a problem, it's hard to imagine a developer going with both methods, because if it's not all out tablet, it's going to be barely usable tablet, just how motion control as laughable tacked onto games for Wii. THIS is what i'm worried about.

Also I still think that it's going to be difficult to expand the market with the core generation already interested in all this new power and not to mention their unshakable loyalty to Sony/Microsoft. And the casuals have all focused their eyes on the tablet market and what not...so it's going to be very difficult indeed no matter how intriguing the Wii U might be. Though the only thing they need to get working on is their entertainment hub and solid networking capability. People love systems for versatility.

OlympicCho knows what he's talking about.

I don't think it's hard to understand what Capcom is trying to say if you get away from "Nintendo4lyfe" attitude.

@FluttershyGuy
It would be a utopia world before that happens haha. Though I do applaud the way Nintendo does their stuff.
It's actually the best of all worlds. They are doing something innovative WITH the option to use a more classic control style if developers are afraid to get their feet wet.
The only thing holding the system back is horsepower....between the touchscreen and methods of using that, having the best of both worlds would be too expensive....though it would make everything much easier and more people would be on board.

But everyone would still have their own exclusives even if everything could be ported flawlessly. That's the main factor that got me into choosing PS3 or Xbox360. I will always have a Nintendo console and 1 of the other guys as well

@Damo
"Nintendo will lead the charge with Wii U software and that will result in a surge of interest from third parties as they become enticed by the possibilities the format offers - despite the fact that it runs pretty much the same spec as the 360 and PS3."

Nobody has to worry about this now...but when the next wave comes from Sony and Microsft as early as next year, then what? That's all that really matters. This may be Nintendo's next evolution, but comparing it to aging, soon-to-be-last gen hardware isn't really something that needs to be done because all that matters is how it will hold up against the onslaught of their next machines.
Once that happens will Wii-U just become and after thought, had a good 2 years of fun time in the sun? This is what people are really asking.

Lmao this was great!

I agree with Smitherenez.
New characters are awesome, and if he's gonna include falco and toon link or young link, etc. I really hope that they become their own character and not just slightly different clones.

I was wondering why I haven't gotten a magazine in a while...o.oWow this is awful. I love Nintendo power....I love looking at (AND SMELLING) gaming magazines in general. I hope Game Informer will publish more Nintendo articles...

But hey Nintendo Life...this is your chance...PUT OUT A MAGAZINE...

Mannnnn this game has been in the dark way too long! But i'm happy they are taking their time on it...I want it to be just as addicting as the first game.

Well I am now much more relieved...I never wanted a whole bunch of non-nintendo characters.But a few 3rd parties would be pretty cool to have, just not too many. I have more faith now

This is great. This will also attract more potential members. Super cool!

NintendoLife...for life!

About time!

Extended Cut = polishing the turd
(j/k, exaggerated, I do like them alot better though....still not great)

There I said it!

"How is this bad? how many Epic Games games were coming to Wii U anyway? "

There are literally TONS of companies who use the Unreal Engine in their consoles.
I'll give an example. The incredibly popular developer, Bioware.

You gotta make it Nintendo majority...and including fighters from 1 on 1 fighters like Tekken seem really weird.
I do like how they are actually thinking about it and not wanting to just flood the roster with their IP.

Jeez I reallllly hope this does well...

A change of direction?

Well as long as it's still Smash Bros....

I heard so many great things about this game.

If you like strategy games, you might want to pick this up... It might surprise you.

I will be amazed if it will be $299 but i'm anxious now to hear an answer from them.

Discs? Music and Movies?
Puh leeeze....Netflix/Hulu and insert numerous other digital music services for modern consoles here

@TeeJayYou're right and I agree....going from glossy and slick to dull and matte just doesn't do it for me. It makes it look all plasticy and cheap.The color scheme of the regular 3DS is just awesome, even if you buy it in different colors it doesn't seem like a 'toy' it is actually gorgeous.

I want everything to fit, and I just curious why they don't have a black or white option at the start....puzzled.
At least in North America.
I want my black!

@Captain_Hookey+9,001

@missqliu81
For characters, sure that's a fair preference, but their development track record is scary.
I would not want them to have a big role in such a huge and important game.

I'm already nervous about Namco, but with Sakurai and his team still at the helm, I think things will be okay.

@MarkyVigoroth
Not really aimed for older people...just those who want a more enhanced experience with the 3DS XL.

@Edlicious
Yeah really...I kinda just want Black...

Please be mostly Nintendo PLEASEEEEE

I wanna see alittttle more 3rd party guys though, especially some tales casts...do NOT leave out Lloyd from ToS

@Cloudcult10

I dunno I kind of liked it....I mean in some ways this matte-looking finish makes it look cheap.

Battery life is 6-10 hours by the way, for the 3DS XL

Edit: Sorry 6-10 for DS games

And about 3.5-6.5 for 3DS games.

glasses-less 3D is gonna be pimpin' for this
Also why isn't the surrounding area not black where the screen is? ...grrrr

Speaking of Baten Kaitos Origins....That wonderful game needs a review
I know you guys over in Europe didn't get it but ...CORBIE GET ON IT

Wasn't released in Europe so there is no review....figures.

I think including too much in a bundle is certainly asking for too much.
Though I respect options, a standard pack and a more expensive premium pack that is more expensive but collectively less expensive than buying each item individually.

The dying and losing all your stuff might put alot of people off, but it's a good thing you can still get them all back.

This might be an interesting game for those hard core survivalists.

Dunno if it'll be for me though...but it might be too hard to resist. It's defiantly an interesting concept.

Nothing wrong with that, it sounds exciting to me.

Not a dying breed.

We had one of the greatest E3s for Nintendo at least, in 2010...2011 was decent, and 2012 was rather meh...but that doesn't mean they are a dying breed.

So I think we learned our lesson...about that rumor chick? What's her name again? It's so I can make a mental note not to believe a single letter she types.
Yeah, don't trust her.

This game should either be packed into the console

or I would take it as a cheaper retail game than the norm.