Nintendo should just tell Western publishers (except Ubisoft) to just stuff it. Nothing but excuses or bad ports. Miyamoto should stop visiting ABC, Cnn and be visiting Square, Capcom, Konami, Ubisoft, Xseed, Sega, Platinum, Namco, Tecmo etc.
Actually looking back through my catalog of NGC and Wii games there is one 3rd party that has always showed Nintendo players much love and that is Ubi Soft. I love Rayman but I am far more excited for Watchdogs, Rainbow Six patriots and Blacklist. Keep making them Ubi and I will keep buying them.
The games released in the past 2 weeks is better than what was available at launch.
No such thing as too many games but can understand a few people having to make tough decisions. I simply had been saving since January expecting titles to come Just remember U can only play one at a time.
Been a PC engine gamer since 1989 and was nothing I did not love about the machine's NEC offered. Wish Nintendo had done a better job with the VC releases. The quantity of titles and the emulation quality was spotty at best. Maybe they will redo some of those for the WiiU.
How about being in GS today and one of the clerks trying to talk a potential customer out of buying a WiiU ?? Not the first time I have witnessed that before either.
"I think the saddest thing about video games is that once the hardware that the game runs on stops operating, the game is gone." Just keep it up with the VC!
@JSuede Well said. I agree that while Crysis is not a great game it would have sold well on WiiU simply by default. But if EA was to release it now there would be a chance of some nice sales but most are waiting till the middle of march when the wave of nice titles are coming.
Have Crysis 3 for my Xbox3fixme and while I enjoy the MP and would like to see it release for WiiU its not a big deal regardless. EA could do alot to help WiiU with supporting the console a little better but to be honest would rather see Dead Space Trilogy, Crysis Trilogy along with the first 2 Mass Effect games on the Eshop.
@MeowGravy Trust me. The Wii U one year out looks alot better than what Xbox will be able to offer from a 1st party perspective. Sony on the other hand has more developers but I still think Nintendo will not just show at E3 but show large. Software will be plentiful
The PS4 is a slick sounding machine but there is a few things that bother me.
Price ? 8Gb of GDDR5 ram will not be cheap. Controller? Telling me I cant use my 60.00 DS3 to play another round of Killzone, God of War ? WTH Social features ? Just gets in the way of me enjoying my games.
What Nintendo should do. Stay the course that you have shown us for 2013. The game line-up is very impressive guys Let Sega create another F-Zero Let Platinum give us their take on the Star Fox series Allow Retro to spread their wing's and deliver a great new IP... after Metroid Prime 4 Give us a HD version of Eternal Darkness Do these simple things and it will not matter what tech demo Sony & MS show.
Really dont understand all the Ubisoft backlash ? They are a third party developer and one of the very few to admit to having more WiiU titles coming and suddenly everybody is saying they wont buy them ?
Not that nintendo console owners have showed their support for 3rd party games in the past !
The game will give players the option to play entirely on the GamePad, and will feature both upgraded graphics and Miiverse integration. Nintendo also plans to tune up the original experience, though precisely what changes that might entail is a mystery at this point. On the visual side of things, the game definitely retains its core visual style, but with the addition of some noticeable visual flourishes (such as enhanced lighting to lend the cel-shading a more vibrant, dynamic look).
" Originally Posted by Jim Morrison, Chipworks:
Been reading some of the comments on your thread and have a few of my own to use as you wish.
1. This GPU is custom.
2. If it was based on ATI/AMD or a Radeon-like design, the chip would carry die marks to reflect that. Everybody has to recognize the licensing. It has none. Only Renesas name which is a former unit of NEC.
3. This chip is fabricated in a 40 nm advanced CMOS process at TSMC and is not low tech
4. For reference sake, the Apple A6 is fabricated in a 32 nm CMOS process and is also designed from scratch. It’s manufacturing costs, in volumes of 100k or more, about $26 - $30 a pop. Over 16 months degrade to about $15 each
a. Wii U only represents like 30M units per annum vs iPhone which is more like 100M units per annum. Put things in perspective.
5. This Wii U GPU costs more than that by about $20-$40 bucks each making it a very expensive piece of kit. Combine that with the IBM CPU and the Flash chip all on the same package and this whole thing is closer to $100 a piece when you add it all up
6. The Wii U main processor package is a very impressive piece of hardware when its said and done.
Trust me on this. It may not have water cooling and heat sinks the size of a brownie, but its one slick piece of silicon. eDRAM is not cheap to make. That is why not everybody does it. Cause its so dam expensive""
DF jumped the gun on getting this article and their analysis up there so fast when people are still hard at work with analyzing the chip as we speak. That article actually made me lose a huge chunk of respect for DF. They stated their opinions like they were fact and didn't even bother to check their sources.
Officially done with this graphics argument. It is old and means nothing except for giving lazy developers,publishers excuses.
All this technical stuff hurts my head lol. All i care about are good games and if i want the best graphics will simply build a PC. That is the way it has been since mid 80's and has not changed since.
The HD generation has just about ruined game consoles and more importantly has chased off the best minds in gaming. We dont see original ideas from developers because they simply cannot afford the next Shenmue which imo is just sad. Which is why you get so many grey or brown games with a special map pack.
Sorry but the 6th gen (dreamcast,GCN, PS2,Xbox) was the best generation in gaming and had nothing to do with graphics
Or how about no Hitman games for Wii or WiiU with that installed base of 100+ million ? Console version of World Ends With You would be spectacular imo and would be the first original IP that I really enjoyed from this company in years.
Played GTA 3 and Vice City on OG xbox and for me never really enjoyed them. This would be a huge release for Wii U so i hope it gets done and will purchase to show Rockstar support.
I have come to the conclusion that with what info we have now Nintendo needs to pull something big at this E3 ! There is barely a whisper of any 3rd party support for future titles compared to PS/360 and there simply is not enough 1st party titles to to stop the droughts of software.
Nintendo needs a huge shot in the arm from 3rd parties and it appears that is not coming with most major releases this spring and summer not being on Wii U which is the most troubling news of them all.
If I was Nintendo and knowing the info they have shared I would try to reach a deal with Valve and add Big Picture mode for the Wii U. In return offer nintendo games on steam. Could only be a win win situation for both companies.
Comments 56
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@Barsteward1
http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/nintendo-super-thread-of-general-discussion.2194/
Re: No Battlefield 4 For Wii U Because DICE Wants To "Play It Safe"
Nintendo should just tell Western publishers (except Ubisoft) to just stuff it. Nothing but excuses or bad ports. Miyamoto should stop visiting ABC, Cnn and be visiting Square, Capcom, Konami, Ubisoft, Xseed, Sega, Platinum, Namco, Tecmo etc.
Had to see this coming though.
Re: Fez For Wii U Is Highly Unlikely Unless Nintendo Pays For It
Fez is average at best. Not a loss imo
Re: Hardware Classics: NEC PC Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA_zP7z7GlE&list=PL6FF8D2FEB8AAD556&index=2
Re: Ecco The Dolphin Creator Launches Kickstarter For Spiritual Sequel, Wii U Version A Possibility
personally feel Nintendo should sweep up some of these kickstarter projects. Some very good ideas from talented game creators.
Re: Ubisoft Not Disappointed With Wii U Install Base
Actually looking back through my catalog of NGC and Wii games there is one 3rd party that has always showed Nintendo players much love and that is Ubi Soft.
I love Rayman but I am far more excited for Watchdogs, Rainbow Six patriots and Blacklist. Keep making them Ubi and I will keep buying them.
Re: Talking Point: The Download or Disc Dilemma
Boxed games for me.
Re: Review: Need for Speed: Most Wanted U (Wii U)
This game is so much fun, multiplayer is smooth and without a doubt one of the best on WiiU
Re: DuckTales: Remastered Won't Be Getting Any Multiplayer DLC
The guys at WayForward just know how to make great games.
Re: Fez Creator Believes Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is More Suited To Vita
Personally I feel Uncharted would have been better suited on Wii.
Re: Diablo III May Not Be A Sony Exclusive After All
Rather play Never Winter Nights............. again
Rather see more from Ubi Soft, Sega, Capcom, Square, Konami etc.
Re: Talking Point: The Perils and Positives of a Packed Release Schedule
The games released in the past 2 weeks is better than what was available at launch.
No such thing as too many games but can understand a few people having to make tough decisions. I simply had been saving since January expecting titles to come Just remember U can only play one at a time.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara Coming To Wii U eShop This June
@misswliu81
Would love to see Powerstone in HD, 4 player gaming bliss
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue Ten
Lego City and Super Metroid
Re: Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara Coming To Wii U eShop This June
Thank you Capcom !
Re: Hardware Classics: NEC PC Engine
Been a PC engine gamer since 1989 and was nothing I did not love about the machine's NEC offered.
Wish Nintendo had done a better job with the VC releases. The quantity of titles and the emulation quality was spotty at best. Maybe they will redo some of those for the WiiU.
Re: Wii U UK Price Reaches New Low As HMV Slashes Premium Bundle Cost
@MadAussieBloke
Same
Re: Aliens: Colonial Marines Seems To Have Been Abducted From The Wii U
@MaseSco
Same. Pretty sure Sega should let us who have paid for the game in full know whether or not we are getting a game
Re: EA CEO John Riccitiello Resigns
Oh man hate to hear that. Sure he will walk away with a great compensation package.
Maybe he and Pachter can do a show together on GT.
Re: Project CARS Will "Look And Feel Amazing" On Wii U, Says Developer
Day 1 purchase even though it does not run in 4d,240FPS at 4096 x 2304.
Jesus, people complain about everything
Re: GameStop: Wii U Will Need Great First Party Titles To Compete
How about being in GS today and one of the clerks trying to talk a potential customer out of buying a WiiU ?? Not the first time I have witnessed that before either.
Re: Two Tribes: We Could Make A Damn Fine Star Fox Game For Wii U
Nintendo should allow them to work on something, maybe not Starfox but Ice Climbers, Custom Robo etc for a Eshop release would be cool
Re: Unannounced Square Enix Wii U Title To Be Revealed At PAX East
Deus Ex considering the rumors. Hitman, Tomb raider or Sleeping Dogs would seem like a better fit imo.
Re: Miyamoto: "Entertainment is an Unpredictable Industry"
Five-seveN said:
"I think the saddest thing about video games is that once the hardware that the game runs on stops operating, the game is gone." Just keep it up with the VC!
Re: Review: Nano Assault EX (3DS eShop)
The reason I bought a 3DS
Re: Miyamoto: Mobile Competition Actually Helps Wii U
The screen imo is perfect for gaming as it was designed. Web Browser is the best out of the big 3 and its not even close.
WiiU needs XBMC to handle media function
Re: TT Fusion: LEGO City: Undercover Will Be "The Best Game on the Wii U"
Cant wait to pick this up
Re: Crytek: Crysis 3 Was "Very Close To Launching" On Wii U
@JSuede
Well said. I agree that while Crysis is not a great game it would have sold well on WiiU simply by default. But if EA was to release it now there would be a chance of some nice sales but most are waiting till the middle of march when the wave of nice titles are coming.
Re: Crytek: Crysis 3 Was "Very Close To Launching" On Wii U
No need on feeding the troll guys.
Have Crysis 3 for my Xbox3fixme and while I enjoy the MP and would like to see it release for WiiU its not a big deal regardless.
EA could do alot to help WiiU with supporting the console a little better but to be honest would rather see Dead Space Trilogy, Crysis Trilogy along with the first 2 Mass Effect games on the Eshop.
Re: Cliff Bleszinski Sees A Future Where Nintendo Is Out Of The Hardware Business
Uhg.......another waste of time with all these Nostradamus predictions. Why does Nintendo Life post this dribble ?
Is Sony stock junk ? Yes it is.
Microsoft has three franchises that actually sale.
So why is Nintendo always the one who is doomed ?
Re: LinkedIn Profile Suggests That Splinter Cell: Blacklist Is Stalking Towards Wii U
@MeowGravy
Trust me. The Wii U one year out looks alot better than what Xbox will be able to offer from a 1st party perspective. Sony on the other hand has more developers but I still think Nintendo will not just show at E3 but show large. Software will be plentiful
Re: Talking Point: Sony's PlayStation 4 Poses a Fresh Challenge for Wii U in the 2013 Holidays
The PS4 is a slick sounding machine but there is a few things that bother me.
Price ? 8Gb of GDDR5 ram will not be cheap.
Controller? Telling me I cant use my 60.00 DS3 to play another round of Killzone, God of War ? WTH
Social features ? Just gets in the way of me enjoying my games.
What Nintendo should do.
Stay the course that you have shown us for 2013. The game line-up is very impressive guys
Let Sega create another F-Zero
Let Platinum give us their take on the Star Fox series
Allow Retro to spread their wing's and deliver a great new IP... after Metroid Prime 4
Give us a HD version of Eternal Darkness
Do these simple things and it will not matter what tech demo Sony & MS show.
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st February 2013 (North America)
@Sonicfan11589
Thanks for the Link Watchdogs and Lego City Undercover for me as I already had this pro-ordered
Re: Ubisoft: Nintendo Will Make "Necessary Changes" To Wii U
Really dont understand all the Ubisoft backlash ? They are a third party developer and one of the very few to admit to having more WiiU titles coming and suddenly everybody is saying they wont buy them ?
Not that nintendo console owners have showed their support for 3rd party games in the past !
Re: Amazon Lists The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD For $59.99
Hardly just a reskin,
The game will give players the option to play entirely on the GamePad, and will feature both upgraded graphics and Miiverse integration. Nintendo also plans to tune up the original experience, though precisely what changes that might entail is a mystery at this point. On the visual side of things, the game definitely retains its core visual style, but with the addition of some noticeable visual flourishes (such as enhanced lighting to lend the cel-shading a more vibrant, dynamic look).
Well worth it imo
Re: LEGO City: Undercover Trailer Brings More Crazy
@cornishlee
Just think sandbox, open world and remove comparisons to GTA. Personally would rather have this than GTA lol
Re: Talking Point: Wii U's Graphical Grunt is Laid Bare - Shall We Play Games Now?
" Originally Posted by Jim Morrison, Chipworks:
Been reading some of the comments on your thread and have a few of my own to use as you wish.
1. This GPU is custom.
2. If it was based on ATI/AMD or a Radeon-like design, the chip would carry die marks to reflect that. Everybody has to recognize the licensing. It has none. Only Renesas name which is a former unit of NEC.
3. This chip is fabricated in a 40 nm advanced CMOS process at TSMC and is not low tech
4. For reference sake, the Apple A6 is fabricated in a 32 nm CMOS process and is also designed from scratch. It’s manufacturing costs, in volumes of 100k or more, about $26 - $30 a pop. Over 16 months degrade to about $15 each
a. Wii U only represents like 30M units per annum vs iPhone which is more like 100M units per annum. Put things in perspective.
5. This Wii U GPU costs more than that by about $20-$40 bucks each making it a very expensive piece of kit. Combine that with the IBM CPU and the Flash chip all on the same package and this whole thing is closer to $100 a piece when you add it all up
6. The Wii U main processor package is a very impressive piece of hardware when its said and done.
Trust me on this. It may not have water cooling and heat sinks the size of a brownie, but its one slick piece of silicon. eDRAM is not cheap to make. That is why not everybody does it. Cause its so dam expensive""
DF jumped the gun on getting this article and their analysis up there so fast when people are still hard at work with analyzing the chip as we speak. That article actually made me lose a huge chunk of respect for DF. They stated their opinions like they were fact and didn't even bother to check their sources.
Officially done with this graphics argument. It is old and means nothing except for giving lazy developers,publishers excuses.
Re: LEGO City: Undercover Trailer Brings More Crazy
This going to eat up so much of my summer.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U's Graphical Grunt is Laid Bare - Shall We Play Games Now?
@LunaticPandora
LOL
Re: Talking Point: Wii U's Graphical Grunt is Laid Bare - Shall We Play Games Now?
@aronatvw
Perfectly sums it up.
Great write up Thomas
Re: Square Enix Laments "Increasingly Difficult" Console Market
@cornishlee
Same
Re: Feature: Wii U Blockbusters - What to Play While You Wait
Playing Metroid trilogy now
Re: GPU Images Reveal Wii U Graphical Power
All this technical stuff hurts my head lol. All i care about are good games and if i want the best graphics will simply build a PC. That is the way it has been since mid 80's and has not changed since.
The HD generation has just about ruined game consoles and more importantly has chased off the best minds in gaming. We dont see original ideas from developers because they simply cannot afford the next Shenmue which imo is just sad. Which is why you get so many grey or brown games with a special map pack.
Sorry but the 6th gen (dreamcast,GCN, PS2,Xbox) was the best generation in gaming and had nothing to do with graphics
Re: Square Enix Laments "Increasingly Difficult" Console Market
Or how about no Hitman games for Wii or WiiU with that installed base of 100+ million ?
Console version of World Ends With You would be spectacular imo and would be the first original IP that I really enjoyed from this company in years.
Re: Nintendo Hints At An Additional Platform In The Future
@MrWalkieTalkie
How do you post pics ?
Re: Rockstar Has "Nothing New" To Report On Grand Theft Auto V Wii U
Played GTA 3 and Vice City on OG xbox and for me never really enjoyed them. This would be a huge release for Wii U so i hope it gets done and will purchase to show Rockstar support.
Re: Nintendo Is Strengthening Development Teams, Defends Wii U Capabilities
@BATRA
Battalion Wars 3 would be special with the game pad !!
The best article I have read yet and glad nintendo is opening up to the masses
Re: Wii U Price Cut Isn't in Nintendo's Plans
@AG_Awesome
Exactly !!
Re: Iwata Implies That He Could Step Down Over Sluggish Sales Performance
I have come to the conclusion that with what info we have now Nintendo needs to pull something big at this E3 ! There is barely a whisper of any 3rd party support for future titles compared to PS/360 and there simply is not enough 1st party titles to to stop the droughts of software.
Nintendo needs a huge shot in the arm from 3rd parties and it appears that is not coming with most major releases this spring and summer not being on Wii U which is the most troubling news of them all.
If I was Nintendo and knowing the info they have shared I would try to reach a deal with Valve and add Big Picture mode for the Wii U. In return offer nintendo games on steam. Could only be a win win situation for both companies.
Re: Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 Will Be Download-Only In Europe
Glad to see it coming..........sad it is download only.