-DEMISE-

Good timing on this article considering what just happened at the Apple conference.

@WiltonRoots Honestly- and I sort of hate to say this- I think a lot of "gamers" just want something to get worked up over and complain about because they don't have much else to spend their time on. I'm not saying I'm the most productive/accomplished person in the world, but a lot of these people just seem to lack the life experience that would help them put this sort of thing into perspective and realize how absurd some of ther complaints are, and how unrealistic their demands of Nintendo are. And so many of them just permanently operate under the philosophy that all large companies are evil and have nefarious intentions simply because their first priority is to make money, which leads me to believe that most of these people have never worked anywhere in a meaningful capacity and probably never will.

@WiltonRoots haha yup that pretty much explains the situation. And thanks! It was fun operating under my secret identity for a while. Or maybe I still am?

@BLPs Likewise, good sir.

@BLPs Hey I've been this way forever! Cynical And Blunt might as well be my name.

@BensonUii Oh, I know. And the fun part is that when these people whine hard enough to the volunteer gestapo that is the "mod" squad, people get banned. I'd be mad about it if it weren't so comical, and if it weren't so easy to just make another account lol

@Bolt_Strike "The legal system is there to supervise the ownership and make sure everything is fair, just as parents would on the playground."

No, that's not how it works. I'm not trying to be mean or single you out, but it honestly just seems like you're making things up. Your personal hopes =/= the way things are.

@AJ_Lethal No, it's definitely a myth. Until we see several terrible games in the series, or like twenty years without a Metroid game, or even extreme CoD-level overuse of the series for several years, then there's nothing to support the notion that Nintendo has killed/is killing the series.

@Nintenbomba64 The last game was only six years ago. Does that really strike people as a long time between entries in a series like Metroid? Because it shouldn't.

@Ninten-san Copyrights for something like a video game that was made by a company (as opposed to an individual author) don't expire for a minimum of 95 years from first publication, so you have a very long wait ahead of you.

@Bolt_Strike That's a really cute analogy, but it's an overly-simplistic reduction of the situation. No, a multi-billion dollar company allowing one of their properties to sit idle (as far as you know) for six years is not equivalent to a kid not sharing his ball. One has significant artistic and financial repercussions, the other has a minor and temporary impact on some kids' feelings.

Moreover, your analogy implies that Nintendo are "sitting on" Metroid out of some petulant desire to punish fans of the series, or to make them suffer for no apparent reason, which is frankly an absurd assumption to make. A game isn't some trivial object like a ball, it's a work of art, and as such, it should be taken as a good thing that Nintendo have chosen to put Metroid on the back burner until they know the direction they want to take it in going forward. And that's doubly true in the wake of Other M, which fans revolted against, a mistake which Nintendo will no doubt desperately want to avoid repeating with the very next game after Other M. They'll want to redeem the franchise, and rushing a game out just because fans demand it is not at all the right move.

And six years is not a particularly long time for a series to sit idle, especially for one like Metroid, which has experienced a protracted and inconsistent release timeline from day one. Nintendo doesn't deserve to have their ownership of a property that they created usurped because they're not sharing it with the spoiled brats often enough. Your belief that the world should work in this way is just antithetical to common sense and the basic concept of right and wrong.

@Bolt_Strike There's no such thing as a "business copyright". A copyright holder is a copyright holder, regardless of how big or small they are as an entity, and regardless of your level of approval or disapproval of their size or of the way they use their property. You have to set aside your personal bias against large corporations and capitalism, because it's clouding your judgment. A copyright owner shouldn't be at an increased degree of risk just because they happen to suffer from the unpardonable combination of being a large company and neglecting to service and appease all of their fans at all times and in all things.

Nintendo owns Metroid and they can do whatever they want with it. It honestly baffles me that I have to even type that sentence. You don't get to appropriate (read: steal) property from its owner just because you don't approve of their use of it. That's another sentence that I can't believe I have to type, and yet here we are.

@Bolt_Strike "It's not that people are opposing the concept of copyright..."

Yes, that is what it's like, as evidenced by this statement that basically says there's no respect for copyright laws:

"...they don't think companies deserve ownership of a copyright if they're not working to sustain the series."

The gaps between entries in a series and one game that certain fans didn't like have no bearing on this at all. You don't get to start pirating other people's work simply because you're sick of waiting for a new game in a franchise.

"Why should Nintendo own Metroid if they're making daft decisions that are killing the series and the fans know what to do more than Nintendo?"

Umm, are you serious? I don't know, maybe because they're the ones who CREATED and OWN Metroid? Do you honestly not see how that's wrong and just basically immoral? Sorry, that's just a very spoiled attitude. An IP is not a human child, or a dog. You can't take it away from a bad parent/owner because you think it's being abused.

And I just love this fan-driven myth that a series can be "killed" by a lack of entries or a bad game in the series, like all the games that were previously released in the series have disappeared from the face of the earth, and no good games will ever be made in the series again. But that's not how it works. All those great Metroid games still exist. They haven't gone anywhere. They're alive and well. You can play them anytime you want, and since Nintendo are the ones who made them, they deserve and are entitled to be compensated when you download a copy of any of those games. And if/when Nintendo releases another core Metroid game, all the entitled "fans" who said the franchise was dead will lap it up like they always do.

@aaronsullivan I kind of worded my comment in an awkward way so no worries. But yeah, my main point was that copyright laws are in place to protect the copyright holder of a given product or property by making sure that they can continue to use it as they see fit, by preventing parties with no right to the product/property from using it as THEY see fit. I know that they can seem harsh and can even be abused by copyright holders, but if these laws didn't exist, then there are obviously a million different ways that interlopers and pirates could interfere with/impede a copyright holder's ability to make money off of their own work.

@PieNinja "Protecting your own property is wrong now? Sounds like socialism to me."

It never ceases to amaze me how many people in the gaming "community" seem to hold views in opposition to the concept of copyright protection. It basically says "we love games, but we don't respect measures that ensure that developers can continue making those games."

@LegendOfPokemon "And this kind of mindset is why I hate Nintendo. Taking down a wonderful project rather than embracing it. This disgusts me."

lol

@PHOPOW @Minotaurgamer Are you just one person using two different accounts?

@VanillaLake "I just wanted to point out that it's fine to disagree as long as you are not attacking other users personally."

How nice of you to say that after posting like a hundred comments about how this site's reviews and reviewers "can't be taken seriously", and dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as a "troll" and reporting them. I wonder which stance is more representative of how you actually feel.

@Shiryu I read it. Good words.

@WiltonRoots According to the "moderators" on this site, defending this site's reviews is somehow a bad thing, worthy of a ban threat, so I guess there's just no winning here.

@gcunit Are you serious? Off-topic? Literally every single one of my comments has been either a comment about this game or the Metroid series, or a response to someone who directed a comment at me after taking issue with comments I posted in defense of this review and the reviewer, so maybe focus your attention on those people. Very strange that you would single me out specifically.

@VanillaLake Oy. You really are a different type of person, aren't you. "This person disagreed with me, therefore they must be bullied by the community and then banned!" -VanillaLake

@huxxny I'm perfectly calm right now. You know that I'm not angry, you're just saying that so you can convince yourself that you're some kind of martyr. And I think deep down you realize that, and you also know how absolutely backward and insane your comments are becoming, but you're clearly too committed to the line that I'm mean and you're a victim to admit it or to stop yourself from descending deeper into bizarro world, where banality and counter-logical nonsense reign supreme and dictate everything you say.

@huxxny lol you're seriously cracking me up. You're like a kid who thinks he's tough so he goes around punching other kids, but then he immediately starts crying when he gets punched back and goes running to his mommy to complain about how mean all the other kids are to him. You're right though, I do have a problem, and its name is huxxny. Again, this "argument" started with you calling me out, and it can end with you. You just have to make the choice to stop posting crazy replies to my comments.

@huxxny lol yeah okay guy, that'd be great advice if it weren't so hypocritical. Keep in mind that YOU replied to ME. I didn't reply to any of your comments, or call you out specifically to start an argument with you. That's on you. So don't go out of your way to pick a fight with someone and then tell them they need to chill out when they react to you in a perfectly normal manner.

@VanillaLake I don't think you know what "flaming" means. I think you are also lacking a fully-realized understanding of the word "disrespectful".

@huxxny It's not out of line to tell people to stop being disrespectful, it's out of line to cherry pick the people you tell to stop being disrespectful based solely on the fact that their opinions are contrary to yours while either ignoring or congratulating people who are disrespectful to others simply because their opinions align with your own.

@DrRandle That's a good point. Samus' basic weapon has never been powerful.

@3MonthBeef I was just replying to that one person's claim that "Metroid was never a shooter". But yeah, Metroid has been a shooter, and that person is daft.

@VanillaLake You really need to get a thicker skin. Campaigning to get people in trouble with moderators for disagreeing with you is not a valid debate tactic.

@gcunit In all sincerity though, when someone goes around telling people they're "reporting" them in multiple threads every week, they deserve to be reported themselves and probably banned, because eventually it crosses the line that separates petulant whining and legitimate harassment. I've seen numerous people given the boot by moderators on this site for much less.

Sweeeeeet. I love this game. It'll be great to have an excuse to get sucked into it again.

@huxxny I love it!
Me: "This is a site specifically for Nintendo fans, go spread your Nintendo-hate and negativity somewhere else."
You: "Your negativity towards people who come to a site specifically for Nintendo fans to spread their Nintendo-hate conflicts with my opinions and personal bias, therefore leave."

Yeah, that's not even remotely hypocritical of you. No aggression coming from you here. Nope.

@huxxny I make plenty of points in valid ways and with valid evidence to support them, but good job picking the one comment out of a hundred that you think fits your argument.

@VanillaLake bahahaha! Just to let YOU know, I don't care. Here, just for fun I'll report everything you've said here and we'll see if we can annoy the mods so hard that they quit moderating this site. JK, I'm not going to do that because I'm not a child. Don't post comments if you don't want to encounter any criticism.

@VanillaLake That's not how review scores work. You actually have the whole thing backwards. Where a 59% in school is barely passing and is considered a terrible grade, a 59% review score is considered okay. 65% grade= bad, 65% review score= good. 70% grade= still pretty crappy, 70% review score= pretty good. Get it? People need to stop thinking of reviews as grades, or comparing them to that scale, because they don't work like grades at all and shouldn't be compared to them.

@VanillaLake And I was hoping you'd have found something better to do than go out of your way to suck the life out of this place, but here we are.

@VanillaLake @Kirk And of course it's you two guys making everyone's day in the comments again. You're a couple of real winners. And hey, your theory about "Nintendo sites" being biased is rock solid, as long as you ignore the fact that the lowest score on metacritic by a wide margin is from a place called "Nintendo Enthusiast". Anyway, keep up the good work. You guys will eventually kill off all the joy in this place if you just keep working at it!

@Shiryu Don't explain yourself to Kirk. He just enjoys being abrasive. Your review explains itself, and is very well written.

@Yasume There are only like five major sites with reviews up yet, and there are as many positive reviews in that group as there are tepid ones.

Also, you have to be joking if you think Chris Carter at d-toid is an unbiased influencer. When it comes to Nintendo games, his reviews are never anything other than negative. I trust his opinion about as much as I trust a car salesman's taste in cars. And Jose at ign is only marginally better.

@Diortem "Metroid was never a shooter like this uninspired game."

Uh, have you ever heard of the Prime Trilogy? They're just as relevant to the series as any other game, and they also happen to be first-person shooters, just like Federation Force.

@Diortem If you played Blast Ball, then you didn't play this game.

@Lizuka A poor business decision? I don't think that's really the phrase you wanted to go with. But if it is, you should know that it's not an especially wise "business decision" for Nintendo to make any Metroid game, even an exceptionally good one, because they sell very poorly.

@Ichiban And you should stop coming to this site, but that's obviously never going to happen.

@CanisWolfred I don't like kotaku either, but I would never under any circumstance accuse them of being biased in favor of Nintendo.

@FlashmanHarry How incredibly odd that you took my comment to mean that I think this game is "one of the best looking games on the system." I haven't played it, so as an honest person not given easily to emotional knee-jerk reactions, I can only say that I can't judge how it looks until I've played it. If you're talking about art direction, that's a completely separate issue. And on the topic of graphical performance and production quality, I will definitely take the word of a reviewer who's actually played the game over that of some random person on the internet who hasn't.

@TwilightOniAngel Here's one that's not a fan site.

http://kotaku.com/metroid-prime-federation-force-the-kotaku-review-1785489769

@Pichuka97 Um, yeah. We know they do that because that is what they do. And the reason they do it is that they don't want children to play their games and be subjected to a constant barrage of swearing and death threats from random angry 12 year olds, which is what chat always descends into in competitive games like this.

@FlashmanHarry Have you played a 3DS game before? Because I think pretty much everyone that has knows that screenshots online don't do the system or its games any justice. In motion, on the 3DS screen, with the 3D effect on, is the only way to judge the graphics of any 3DS game.

@Spoony_Tech Apparently everyone but you got the memo about Nintendo having shifted development of almost all of their Wii U games to NX like two years ago, and that one of those is a new 3D Mario game. But now you know, so you can stop posting this particular type of comment.

Oops, never mind. I read the rest of the comments and it seems that @rjejr also did not get that memo. But this is a guy who can't be bothered to spell "Nintendo" correctly, so it's not surprising that he overlooked something like that.