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@Arlo Yeah, from two months ago when they showed the Koroks during E3.

@WiltonRoots I don't think he's a typical straightforward troll. If I thought it were that simple I would ignore him. But he's been regularly commenting in his usual fashion on this site and several others for years. So he's either an uncommonly bitter person who just doesn't realize how toxic his behavior is, or else he's a sadistic narcissist who's love for "trolling" people compels him to spend so much time at it that might as well be his job. Either way, I think he needs to be made aware that his comments are unacceptable, and that he's not welcome here until they change for the better.

@WiltonRoots Yeah that's definitely true. I've just been reading his schlock for a long time and it's getting difficult to let it ride these days.

@rjejr haha. Gatorboi completes me.

@HappyMaskedGuy Good call.

@HappyMaskedGuy I'm sorry, but do you really not realize the hypocrisy of posting these two comments, one after the other like you did? Comment 1: "stop thought-policing people! Censorship is bad!" Comment 2: "how dare you suggest that working in a cafe for minimum wage isn't a good job to support a family by! Your thoughts on this matter offend me! Boo hoo, I'm sensitive!"

Yeah way to go there, you hypocritical oaf.

@VanillaLake No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying don't be surprised if you run into some people that don't appreciate your critical stance of Nintendo on a Nintendo fan site.

@rjejr It could honestly come down to cost for Nintendo, since Bluetooth is patented and has to be licensed.

@OorWullie I never lost my NES or SNES controllers as a kid, or their cartridges, or my NES light gun, or my Game Boy or its tiny cartridges or any of my Game Boy accessories. I think that generally if kids care about something, they are less likely to lose it. I mean how many kids do you know that permanently lost their Wii remotes, or their tv remotes?

@gatorboi352 You get taken to the woodshed because you come to a site that exists specifically to cater to Nintendo fans specifically so you can troll Nintendo fans with how much you dislike Nintendo. Did you honestly never think about why that would bother people? If you don't like the reactions you get for your constant droning on about how much you hate Nintendo on what's basically a Nintendo fan site, then you should take that as a sign that you should stop going to that site, or stop commenting in the way that you always do literally every time you post something on that site. I mean I know you're from Florida, but don't go out of your way to be a stereotype.

@ParSnake Why is that odd though? It's just a way for one device to communicate to another one wirelessly.

@rjejr I'm guessing the infrared is so it can communicate to the device once it's been detached, not just when it's connected, and infrared is an exceedingly cheap means of achieving that. I'm not sure why people are getting caught up on that, since that's how tv remotes work.

@VanillaLake That's fine. I'm probably one of the most critical people you could ever hope to meet. But I don't go sign up for Fiat fan sites to tell everyone how much I hate the way the new Fiats look and how overpriced I think they are. I'm just saying that maybe if you want to criticize Nintendo at such a constant rate, you should consider doing so on ign, or kotaku, or gamespot, or polygon, or just about any general gaming site where that mindset is alive and well, because you're much more likely to find sympathetic ears on any one of those sites than you are on this one. But hey, it's a free world (in some places), so I can't stop you from doing what you love.

And hey, I might be married, but there's always room for new best friends.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah, you seem to be missing the point. You see, you have free agency, so you can go out and buy used games to your heart's content. Whereas Nintendo, also with free agency, can charge however much they want for their games. If you aren't happy paying Nintendo the price of entry, then keep buying your games used off of ebay. And you're right that your console won't spit out a used game, but nor will your right to buy a used game simply disappear because Nintendo charges $5 more for the same game on the eShop. This isn't a discussion about the best way for gamers to buy games on the cheap, it's a discussion about the way a given market deals with the pricing for new and used products. Nintendo's pricing is directly in line with the rest of the industry, but for some reason you hold them to a different standard.

And I can go into just about any store that sells new games and find shelves full of new Wii games still in the wrapper, so it's odd that the situation is so different in Europe.

@VanillaLake That's all well and good, but most people seek out sites such as this one as a refuge from the constant barrage of Nintendo-hate that they get on every other gaming site. So even if you are a well-meaning person and a genuine Nintendo fan, it really just spoils the whole experience for people that come here to avoid that particular brand of negativity. It's called nintendolife, not nintendosucksinsomanywaysletstalkaboutallofthemforever.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE If you really are a "realist", then you should recognize the very real gaping hole in the middle of your argument, which is that used copies of games are less expensive than their brand new counterparts in practically 100% of all cases. For example, I can go to Game Stop and buy a used copy of GTA V for my Xbox 360 for $26.49 ('$' being the symbol of our currency here in the USA). If I buy that same game brand new, it's $29.99. And if I buy a digital copy, it is $59.99. Strange that they don't follow your logic of "the used game is cheaper! therefore make the new copy cheaper!"

@Utena-mobile I don't think my wife would like me taking on a new roommate, or the paycheck that comes with working at a cafe. It's a good suggestion though.

@VanillaLake In all sincerity I never see anyone criticizing Sony on this site. I just see a lot of people that really seem to hate Nintendo on this site. Now, I don't care one bit if you hate Nintendo. It's your prerogative. But it is eternally perplexing to me that anyone would go out of their way to sign up for a site that's dedicated to one specific thing, and then only ever post comments about how much you hate that one thing. Why would anyone ever like that? Sorry, but you're going to get "flamed" if that's your M.O.

Anyway, I'm sure you're lovely, and I really don't hate you. But the internet. You know.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE "See this sign, €, it's called the Euro. It's our currency in Europe."

Oh weird. All this time I thought that was an ear, and I'm all like, why would you trade your ears for a game?? lolz

@VanillaLake I don't hate you. I know nothing about you. You seem like a decent enough person. I just don't agree with your position. Also, you keep replying to me, and I HATE not getting the last word. Hate. It.

@VanillaLake Weird. If I'M just replying to YOU, and YOU'RE just replying to ME, how do we know who started it, and where does it even end?!?!

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@VanillaLake Stop. My heart is breaking.

@JaxonH Hey get out of here with your Nintendo Defense Force propaganda! What do you think this is, some kind of site for Nintendo fans or something??

....oh wait.

@VanillaLake And here YOU are making the argument that the age and file size of a game should render its price as as close to zero as possible. And also, here YOU are saying you think collector's value or lack thereof has any bearing on the very simple concept that $5 for a digital copy of a game is significantly cheaper than buying a cartridge of the game, which is true no matter how you want to spin it.

Hey, this game is fun, let's keep playing!

@Caryslan Very good point. I've made this argument countless times myself, but apparently it's too much common sense for certain people to get their heads around.

@Onion Spend enough time parsing through comments on gaming sites, specifically articles about Nintendo remakes and Virtual Console games, and I promise you with 100% confidence that you will find more than a few people complaining that they have to pay for whichever game a given article happens to be about, or saying things like "or I could just download an emulator and play it for free, derp." You're right about how well they sell though. They usually sell incredibly well, which is why I have so much derision for the people that complain about Nintendo charging so much for their older games, no matter how high or low the price actually is, because their griping is incongruous with the actual market reception.

@RandomBlue Don't worry about it. There's no winning with someone when they're on a moral crusade.

@Onion People "calling for" a particular remake doesn't change the very visible and obvious fact that people also complain about having to pay money any time Nintendo releases a remake, or a game on Virtual Console, or anything along those lines. "Why should I pay money for a game I can get for free??" is always their mantra. Demand doesn't equate to quietly accepting the price of an old game, no matter how well it's been remade.

@Kid_Sickarus No I believe you. But I don't for a second believe that most of the people downloading this game would just gladly accept their fate if they were required to pay Nintendo money for it. People would complain that they're being asked to pay money for an old game, because that's what always happens.

@Rin-go That's exactly this situation in a nutshell. A strong sense of entitlement leads people to feel that if the entity getting ripped off is a wealthy individual or a large company, then they aren't entitled to the same level of respect that your average Joe Schmoe on deviant art receives.

@XCWarrior I also am looking forward to Federation Force. As a lover of all things Metroid, yes, I want a REAL Metroid game. But that doesn't detract from the fact that I ALSO think Federation Force looks like a fun game. It's just hard for people to get over it when their own personal wants aren't met.

@VanillaLake No, you're definitely overly-sensitive. I don't know anything about you, so I have nothing personal to say about you. But you obviously can't handle it when your take on things comes under a skeptical eye.

@Kid_Sickarus I bet.

@Kirk That's fine for you to operate your own business that way. Most businesses don't do it that way, and for good reason.

@VanillaLake Yeah, I've read your last comment like eight times now and I still can't understand what you're trying to say there, so I got nothing.

@aaronsullivan lol I didn't know it was a fight. These people are just funny to me.

@Syrek24 I know. This site has a handful of overly-sensitive types and some rabble rousers, and they don't exactly avoid aggravating these people.

@VanillaLake I wasn't offended until you said I was trying "to be at Kirk's level." This is perhaps the lowest of all blows.

Also http://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/miniature-violin.jpg

@Kirk Yes, we know. But thankfully Nintendo didn't NEED to focus on just the gameplay. They had the name, the character, the world map, the fact that it was obviously a remake of their game, and also the gameplay to make it obvious that this was a remake of their game. But what do I know, I'm just a sheep. Lolol

@VanillaLake Ooo, sick burn.

@VanillaLake Oh I have the week off! Thanks for noticing. Although you clearly have a lot of free time yourself, since you have posted like a hundred comments in this thread and a couple dozen on the other story about this game that just went up.

Anyway, you're right again, I shouldn't call other people ignorant just for having a different point of view. That's why I rarely do that. But when someone else's point of view is clearly growing from a blatant dearth of knowledge on a given subject, or just from sheer stupidity, I will tell them as much. Hope that helps.

@Kirk "They are mindless, mass-media programmed, social-media conditioned sheep. The fight for the corporations."

lol how are you a real person? You're like a South Park character or something.

@VanillaLake "some people here are more Nintendo lawyers than players or fans."

Ah man! How'd you sniff us out? And to think we spent all this time crafting these fake "Nintendo fan" identities. 28 years of work down the drain. Alright team, back to Nintendo HQ. The jig is up.

"There's one thing I don't understand."

That's clearly a massive understatement.

@Kirk Except this game doesn't "play different in every way." A different engine and a new look don't change that it still plays roughly the same. That's the whole point of a remake.

@Kirk Interesting that this game is "99.9% original" and yet the map is like 90% identical to the map from the original game.

@Kid_Sickarus ...for free.*

@PleaseUnderstan I don't think you understand what a "copyright troll" is, and your inference that Nintendo fall into this category is unapologetically idiotic.

@GraveLordXD They've been quiet for a long time, so it's entirely possible. I think it's a safe bet that they're not working on another Donkey Kong game, so they're either working on a new IP (which I wouldn't mind either), or on some other established one. And since they have a proven record with Metroid, and since fans have been begging for a new entry in the series, it seems like a logical project for the studio. Other M left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, so if Nintendo DID decide to make a new Metroid game, they'd obviously want to put the series back in safe hands to sort of redeem it, and Retro's are probably the safest in that regard.

@VanillaLake You're right, my opinion is biased. I played the game all the way through and came to the conclusion that it was a solid remake, even an impressive one in most ways. I then read several reviews and aggregated review scores which echoed my own thoughts on the game, and I read/watched some performance analyses which provided irrefutable evidence that the remake was technically sound. So my opinion is based on those three factors, and is therefore biased in favor of those factors.

@Bolt_Strike I love when people say that. Like, do you actually think that I don't know the difference between fact and opinion? Because if you really believe that, then you're very funny. And if you don't and you're just saying to be snide (which is obviously what you're doing), then you realize that statement has no impact, right? Because clearly anyone over the age of, I don't know, like five understands the difference between those two things, so it doesn't really hurt anyone's feelings to be told that they suffer from a condition that is practically impossible.

But here, let me clarify for you: your opinions on the matter of remakes like Wind Waker HD fall far outside the general consensus, to the point that if this conversation were based on statistics, your opinion would be thrown out as an extremely isolated, statistically insignificant outlier. Because of that, I am disregarding your opinion. You can think whatever you want about anything that you want, but in this particular instance, what you think is unique enough that I consider it to be irrelevant.