@BruceCM Guess I'm not among the "plenty" either then, since I never take any screen shots on the Xbox. Well, except for that one time, back when I first play-tested my brand new Xbox One S and I apparently somehow made some screenshots by accident, which I only found out after having quit out of a game back into the home menu, and some notifications popped up, one of which telling me that I had some new screen shots...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX I found out the hard way that the Xbox deletes your screenshots and videos from time to time as it has allocated space for that stuff and if you go over that UNKNOWN space it will delete your older stuff!
And most people found out about that when they got their favorite screenshots or videos deleted.
Now I ordered a USB flash drive specifically for the Xbox to see if I change the capture location it will keep my captures forever. The only catch is that the USB should be of class 3.0 because the Xbox needs it to be faster.
I actually never knew how screwed up that was ... but then again I read that at launch the Xbox One could not even take screenshots and they added it as an update.
How are they gonna spoil anything when their only major launch game is Halo? And it's available on Xbox One and PC too. I have zero reasons to buy a Series X at this point.
I understand that for you it's like that and everyone has their reasons but Series X will be much better value than a gaming PC and not everyone will be willing to play Series X games on Xbox One. PS5 only has a PS4 semi-sequel with half the content and the mini games compilation for launch and the third party games will run and look better on Series X. PS5 at the moment only has its own exclusives as the only advantage and they don't have much ready for launch. Microsoft do not either but Halo Infinite is a bigger game than the Spider-Man standalone DLC. Both will get their exclusives further on but it would be really stupid if Microsoft didn't want to be there along the competition!
Microsoft should be pushing a Cyberpunk bundle with Series S HARD this holiday. It's going to sell a LOT more copies than that bland looking Halo game. Especially since Sony is undoubtedly going to be plastering Spider-Man: Miles Morales all over the place.
@Ralizah If anything the will be pushing gamepass more than any single game I'd imagine. I doubt they will ever even announce Halo Infinite sales but rather just tout gamepass sub numbers. Definitely don't think there will be any bundles at all this first holiday season for either console unless they're retailer created like Gamestop always does.
@redd214 Well, I expect them to push Game Pass regardless. It's the main thing they have going for them this gen. Cyberpunk is a huge release, though, and they have exclusive marketing rights, apparently. They've already created that LE Xbox One X that's Cyberpunk-themed and comes with a voucher for the game. They should do the same with one of their new consoles. People WILL be buying that game this holiday. The big thing is who they mentally associate it with.
But yeah, I'd expect them to bundle in a few months of Game Pass with each new Series S/X and push the hell out of it all generation.
Gotta love Gamestop "bundles". We're the only one in town with inventory, so here's a list of other junk you don't want but have to buy to get one..." Business is business, but that's some cynical bad-faith selling. I remember during the Switch shortage at launch, the only way to get one other than scalpers was Gamestops bundle that forced you to buy a bunch of random garbage accessories and a full price $60 copy of 1-2-Switch. And that's nothing compared to the Wii era bundle of plastic golf clubs and tennis rackets required to get one.... What will they bundle with XSeX....4k televisions? "XSeX bundle, only $3600!"
@Ralizah I really don't understand the whole "exclusive marketing rights" and associating the game with a particular brand console idea. I guess it works...but I don't know who it works on.
Sony will be plastering Spider Man MM all over, but that still assumes they have enough console inventory to fulfill demand. That doesn't happen in a good year...imagine with the manufacturing issues this year. XSeX might build momentum simply because XSeX + PS5 launch stock combined probably can't fulfill demand. If you really want a PS5 but can't get one and there's still 2 XSeX's on the shelf, maybe you walk out with one...before you know it XSeX is the hottest holiday item and everybody has one! It's also depressing that stand alone DLC seems to be more popular in the market than a full new entry in a well regarded series simply because "graphics" (Plus more famous character.)
Remember in the 80's when parents were clandestinely trading Cabbage Patch dolls from the trunk of a car in an empty parking lot in the middle of the night for wads of rolled cash? This'll be like that.
I pre-ordered a Switch and Zelda but on the day of release I got a cancellation notice due to being out of stock. So I decide to go to a midnight launch to get one instead. I waited three hours and got one, however the coloured Switches were sold out as well as Zelda. You needed to buy a bundle of the console, two accessories (these were the crappy ones no one ever buys) and a game so I picked Bomberman. However I was chatting with one of the guys who worked there and he basically said wink wink just return the extras bits you don’t want as it’s itemised per item on the receipts and not as a bundle. So I did and It saved me £45 from buying crappy accessories and Bomberman turned out enjoyable enough whilst I waited for Zelda to turn up in the post.
@NEStalgia Exclusive marketing absolutely works. It's really depressing how effective even blatantly manipulative political campaign ads can be. There's a reason big companies pump so much money into advertising.
Anyway, as far as I understand it, Miles Morales is a full game, just not a lengthy, $59.99 one.
I'm not terribly excited about Spider-Man anything (how people can still be hyped about superhero stuff after almost a full decade of that particular horse being constantly whipped boggles my mind, personally), but I'd still buy it over Halo. MM is going to be an accessible and mainstream action-adventure romp with eye-popping set-pieces that likely show off the guff of the new console. Halo, sorry, looks like an HD remaster of an Xbox 360 game. And I'm not really talking about the visuals so much as the look of the game in general. This isn't accidental, either: the intent was apparently to go back to the look of the "legacy titles" in the series.
Also, aside from a few series like DOOM and Bioshock, I'm just not much of a FPS sorta person. I've never even played a Halo game, to be quite honest, despite picking the 360 over the PS3.
Cyberpunk looks awesome, though, and Microsoft has the ability to splay V's mug all over their holiday packaging. They REALLY should.
Speaking of which: it's a little surreal to be talking about how Sony isn't going to have the stock to keep everyone happy during launch when the system is likely going to be fairly expensive and the U.S. is teetering on the edge of a full-blown depression and a mass eviction crisis.
@Ralizah I look at a world where supposedly everyone is soooo smart, with sooo many degrees, and all these advanced careers, now the only careers.....
And then I look at the same people on which "exclusive marketing" works, where one brand advertising an accessory available for every other brand.......and somehow....they buy that? We keep being told everyone's getting smarter, yet they seem ever dumber to me.....
"Full game, just not a length $59.99" one." Which is to say "not a full game" It's stand alone DLC more or less like they did with inFamous SS: First Light, only bigger. That's not to say it won't be cool...but...it's NOT a full game as a launch title if it's in fact shorter and smaller than its base game on PS4. People comparing full "biggest ever" Halo Infinite to glorified DLC that makes up a full (shorter than the main game) campaign and referencing "but graphics" is pretty sad. Especially when Infinite is cross-gen and MM is a glorified expansion pack inexplicably held hostage on new hardware. MM looks cool, don't get me wrong, but as someone that bought the main game as a day 1 preorder (and have the bonus collectable pin to prove it) not because I give even the tiniest flip about Spider Man but because Insomniac as a developer has never once disappointed me, I take "buy a new $500 console so you can buy our headlining DLC pack for the game you already bought" as a gigantic EffU from Sony. But everyone is fine with that because "cool gfx!' and is trashing Halo, the biggest entry in the well regarded series, ever, because "not the gfx I pictured." It's frustrating.
Yeah, I'm not a superhero/comics fan myself, either. Never was, even as a kid. Spiderman didn't interest me slightly until I realized it was Insomniac.....and they always make anything fun even, so I had to give it a go. Sunset Overdrive is the most crazy fun nonsense absurdist game since Jet Set Radio, and R&C games are purely addictive crack. I had to buy into a new Insomniac game....even if I had to hold my nose and do the superhero thing.
"mainstream action adventure romp with eye popping set pieces" - that right there is the whole crux. Mainstream, accessible, appeals to non-gamers, and is, at best, console-porn to gawk at instead of playing with it. (Maybe Infinite needs a Cortana Deviantart DLC.........)
And, I think, Halo really does appeal to the legacy fans in that regard, and I appreciate the return to tradition. Halo: CE was a revolution. Halo 2....ok, it focused on the Flood and can die in a dumpster thrown into the river. Halo 3 was amazing as a showcase of the 360. Then Bungie left and the series has been a dumpster fire. Halo 5 was a bad joke designed for the eSports scene in the Matrick era. I think the long time fans appreciate the "we're back, and we actually get it" vibe. They stopped trying to fix what wasn't broken. If the game is fun and the long time fans evangelize it will catch on more mainstream. But a "very video-gamey game" is not going to appeal like "comic hero in a mainstream console porny romp"....that's fine in the mass market. But on gaming enthusiast sites you'd think there'd be love for very video gamey games.
As for you not being an FPS fan.....I'm in between. I've never been a huge FPS fan, and yet being a PC master race for a decade or so.....there was literally nothing else other than RTS to choose during that era. ALL games were FPS or RTS until Diablo II came out and everything started cloning that instead. But I'm not very big into them.
That being said, Halo: CE was a revolution. It was the transition into open world before open world existed. Playing CE in 2001 or the PC launch a few years later was amazing. It was the first "open world game" despite actually not being, it just had huge maps and a lack of too many invisible walls. Before that shooters meant interior hallways and confined streets and courtyards that were just interior halls with a skybox. Halo dumpd you on a beach and let you have at it....in 360 directions. And it was the first game to revolutionize the shooter from Doom-style "run and gun, shoot bullet sprays in all directions before the enemy overruns you" and made a tactical situation with an AI that reacted, the 2 weapon mix, health regen, and trying to mount a tactical firefight. It really did change shooters forever. Much of what a modern shooter does, Halo started. But it's long in the tooth in part due to mismanagement over the past 10 years. Still, it's a very "arcade" experience all the way around.
One thing about Halo is it never looked that great after the revelation of 1. But it plays great. Again, very arcade. That's part of the problem. It's very video game. The fun comes from how it plays, not the "cinematic experience" of watching it. You'll never "get" Halo watching a Let's Play. It's not a game about the world or the story....it's a game about the minute to minute gameplay. It's just "fun". And infinite adds a grappling hook and a legit open world...... You've never played so you don't get it....but that just sounds fun.
Ironically I didn't care at all about Infinite despite having liked some Halo years ago for years UNTIL I watched the controversial gameplay demo. Then I was sold! But I have the "feel" from past play in my mind to know what it plays like by watching.
Personally I feel like when the chips are down, Spidey is of course the better marketing tool, but Infinite is almost certainly the better game to own and play. Spidey will get deleted after your 10 hour playthrough or however long it is. Infinite is the kind of "it's just fun" game that I think you come back to for years if it truly plays like old Halo now with more open world.
Also, of note, one of the original designers of Halo at Bungie....he was there at the beginning back during the Myth days...I loved that series. Bungie went down the toilet when he left (Destiny 2 is cool...but not what Halo was. Destiny 1 was a mess.) Know where he went? Sucker Punch...... he was on Sly, inFamous, and Tsushima. That kind of design thinking is what built Halo as well. 343 failed by walking away from that design. This game is an attempt to say they've gone back to it.
Heh, well it's surreal to be talking about console launches at ALL in this economy. I thought the companies were simply mad for doing so. I still do. But you can't tell me they're going to have sufficient inventory at all given how few they're probably making.
And remember, the top 1/3 of the country is almost untouched by any depression and will in all likelihood double or even triple their buying power as a result. They buy most of the luxury now anyway. My guess is their complaint will be it's not expensive enough and they demand even more luxury and exlusivity. Gaming used to be mainstream, but now maybe it's a luxury for the wealthy - gaming is for "luxury apartment" dwellers with a Bimmer in the garage.
FPS is really the one genre I just can't get into .... Only those games where there's other weapons choices! Spider-man is the sort of game I'd like to try, if I was getting the console for some other games but that's largely since I haven't played the PS4 launch one, either, for the same reason
I wonder why Cyberpunk gave MS such a favourable deal with marketing when it's launching on both consoles simultaneously?
I agree with NEStalgia about Halo. It never was graphical masterpiece. Ok Halo 4 pushed Xbox 360 pretty far, but still. But my love for Halo is all because of gameplay. It is just fun to play.
Well Battletoads is back. Rare announced that a new Battletoads will be coming in August and honestly I am not that excited for it. I think the thing that killed it for me is the graphics. I don't thing the chibi style graphics suit Battletoads at all. I don't like the new design of the Dark Queen IMO the game just looks horrible. 30 years wait and this is what we get. Sad thing is it will probably sell well.
/smh
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Admittedly I've not yet played a single Spiderman game, but as cool as the most recent one looked, it just seemed like it would be a vacuous affair, style over substance. Halo: CE had substance, quite a lot of it too for what was a pretty flashy launch title. Kinda blew me away at the time how good its combination of looks, audio and gameplay was, and you could play the entire campaign in split screen co-op!
I've not followed the series since, so have no idea how Infinite fits into the story, but to me the gaming world is a richer place for having Master Chief and Halo in it, so I'm much more on the Halo side of the line this Christmas.
I've just rewatched the recent cinematic trailer for Infinite - the one where the MC suit is being constructed. It climaxes with the dialogue "It all means nothing... until you step inside" and then the word 'BECOME' is superimposed over MC's helmet, and it just had me screaming inside my head "Give me Halo VR!" When I think how nonchalantly Nintendo dropped Breath of the Wild VR mode, and then I think of XSeX's 12 'flops of power... they've got to do it, haven't they?
You guys had me at blood and semen.
What better way to celebrate than firing something out of the pipe?
@NEStalgia That's a weird bit of gatekeeping. I wouldn't think you'd be one of these people who thinks only AAA full retail releases are "real games." If a game has a beginning, middle, and end, and can be played on its own, it's a real game. For example, by the standards we've discussed, the 10 hour or so Uncharted 2 is a real game, while the originated-as-DLC Torna: The Golden Country, which I spent around 30 hours playing (till I got to the end, not until I 100%ed it), which tells a complete story, has its own battle system and mechanics, etc. somehow isn't. Or, using Infamous: First Light as an example, that's still very much a game that can be purchased and completed on its own. In fact, it's the only game from that studio I've currently played. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy is another good example, I think.
Anyway, I don't think anyone can reasonably compare Miles Morales to Halo Infinite as an experience, and say one is "better" than the other. What you think is "better" is almost certainly going to depend on your expectations and priorities. There's not a lot of common ground between a cinematic third person action-adventure game and an open world sci-fi shooter.
I don't really see how gaming has morphed from something mainstream to something premium. If anything, it's the opposite. It's far easier to affordably follow gaming today than it was in the 90's, for a number of reasons:
Over time, gaming has become a mainstream hobby that has become more accessible than ever. You don't need to visit specialty nerd stories to find pretty much any major release these days. Additionally, everything is available digitally.
Consoles like the PS2, NDS, and Wii broke down barriers when it came to who owned a console or what constituted a console gamer. Everybody is a gamer now, to some degree.
Price standardization makes it easier than ever to afford new releases, versus the often insane prices that abounded for new games in the 90s.
Premium game sale culture (pioneered by Steam, but adopted by virtually everyone other than Nintendo at this point) and the ease of digital sales has made it simpler than ever to be able to wait for great discounts on big games.
Additionally, programs like Humble Monthly, PSPlus, and Xbox Live Gold allow people to rack up a large number of games for a comparably lowish yearly price.
And, of course, GamePass is a thing now, and it's probably the best value in the industry.
Which isn't to say gaming isn't still an expensive hobby. And for hardcore collectors, it's probably more expensive than ever with the sheer number of releases, limited print runs, collector's editions, etc. coming out all the time. But I think it has only become more accessible to lower-income brackets over time.
@Tasuki Yeah BATTLETOADS, just saw it there on games radar, i can'nt wait for it really . i only played the one on the game boy and the arcade one. from what they have been writeing about it it sound's good like turbo tunnel if one players is still ok the rest can respawn. Thats all they really said about gameplay so maybe there will be even more. is the new xbox, there going to release backwards compatible with xbox one games? this game is one of the reasons i'll buy an xbox.
Recently i found an XBOX 360 E Blue color from my local online shop website Tokopedia. I was freaking shocked when the seller said the machine was USA version and still Original. 🤪🤪🤪
That was really really distracting me between want to purchase that machine immediately or wait until next year during this pandemic situation. 🤤
I really want to get an Xbox 360 USA version and still 100 % Original, No jailbreak. But when i remembered my game list on Xbox 360 i want to buy, i have to pending my rush plan to get Xbox 360 E. I still have a lot of games on PS3, PS4, Switch, 3DS i wanted to buy so i need to focus with my current plan, not get distracted by Xbox 360 that i might consider when the time is right to buy. 😣
@Ninfan Yeah I loved the Arcade game and wish this one was closer to it in style and tone. I played both the NES and SNES ones years ago and also played Battletoads/Double Dragon. As I said it's nice to see the series return but at the same time such a disappointing look.
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