Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@Ninfan Yeah I loved the Arcade game and wish this one was closer to it in style and tone. I played both the NES and SNES ones years ago and also played Battletoads/Double Dragon. As I said it's nice to see the series return but at the same time such a disappointing look.

I have to agree with @NEStalgia as his insight comparing Halo Infinite and Spider-Man Miles Morales is spot on. Halo is obviously the better game and Spider-Man Miles Morales is the marketing showcase. People will be playing Halo Infinite for years while the glorified Spider-Man standalone DLC will be one of those rushed launch games you play once for the graphics.

Good to see you've already played both, you should write game reviews

The 2 games aren't really comparable, 1 is standalone DLC that probably went the standalone route to take advantage of the PS5's hardware instead of being held back by PS4 meanwhile the other is a 10 year collection where unlike normally with collections you release the collection after the games release, this time the collection is released at the beginning. Infinite is basically Master Chief Collection 2, Master Chief Collection was Halo FPS for 2001-2012 meanwhile Infinite is Halo FPS for 2020-2030.

@Grumblevolcano If Spider-Man MM is standalone DLC, does that means BOTW 2 is standalone DLC as well? Same is true for something like Lost Legacy, I think that saying it's standalone DLC doesn't really do it justice.

And how is Halo Infinite a collection?

Of course I haven't but we know the scope and modes of each. No need to play a game to talk about the content so don't be silly... 😜

No. Has Nintendo said that BotW 2 is a short game that was planned as DLC initially? Miles Morales is PS4 DLC turned into a rushed PS5 launch semi-sequel with half the content.

Halo Infinite's campaign is bigger than 4 and 5 combined and the multiplayer component is an important part of the game.

@BlueOcean Aonuma did confirm that BotW 2 was originally BotW DLC, I'd guess it was made into a sequel because releasing more DLC would mean the Wii U would've had to be supported for longer (Nintendo said back in 2016 that BotW Wii U and BotW Switch would be the same experience).

@Octane I think it's more underestimating what DLC can be, back in the 90s for example DLC was huge PC expansions.

I don't think that BotW 2 will be shorter than BotW, that would be almost impossible and they don't need to rush it because it's a Switch game. I remember that Nintendo said they would like to make DLC set in the same world if that's what you mean but they released a little bit of DLC (quite short story-wise) and that's it.

@Ralizah Not gatekeeping, though there's an age factor your missing. Once upon a time there were 2 types of games. Real games in a box, and garbage shareware on a floppy. The two did not cross. That's when my definition of "real game" was shaped. So yes, I'll never really think of "not full priced packaged game" as "real game" the same way you do who was more used to digital content at the start. Though "aaa" didn't exist at the time either, so it's not apples to apples. Duke 3d was "packaged game"

All that said, MM chafes me in a few different ways. They're hyping it as THE launch game of a new console. It's an expansion pack. We don't know if it's full price or not. There's speculation it isn't based on old games, but those old games were never flagship console launches. I can't imagine Sony leading a console launch with a budget priced game. And it rubs me wrong they're locking the expansion pack for an existing headline ps4 game behind a $500 new console pay wall. That's insulting. Sequel, fine. Not an expansion pack. So they are either headlining a console with overpriced dlc, or they're screwing ps4 Spiderman owners by locking them out of expansion access without a hardware purchase for no reason.

But I'm mostly upset at the internet gamers that are justifying a glorified addon a as a launch title and forcing hardware upgrades to get it "aren't generations awesome!" While putting down and honest to goodness full game a long time in the making almost explicitly because it's not forcing a hardware pay wall on it. I'm disappointed in the "i demand the right to buy eliteness" mentality left pc behind to be rid of.

And yes, gaming has become more affordable. For now. But between the economic effect of the plaque and the appearances of the new gen, it feels like that's about to roll back hard.

@BlueOcean I don't think they ever said it was planned as DLC.

Spider-Man MM is just a shorter spin-off. It's probably not a €60 game either, but €40.

@Octane Spiderman mm it's stand alone dlc. Lost legacy and first light were stand alone dlc. They're aren't full sequels and the company directly states so. Previously they priced them so as well... We'll see this time.

Botw2 it's explicitly a full size seqel. Or so they say for now. No reason to believe otherwise. Unless something looks untrue about that when we see more.

@Octane MM is $540.... You need to buy a PS5 to buy the $40 dlc for your ps4 game.

@Octane You can spin it as much as you want and disagree with me and NEStalgia but it's obvious that Miles Morales is a rushed short sequel that is based on the PS4 game with next-gen graphical frills.

BotW 2 can't have a shorter story than BotW and they aren't rushing the development for a new console launch. BotW disappointed me quite much but BotW 2 will likely be better packed.

Most expensive DLC ever 😂.

Mmmm nice! This is the new Xbox vs PS thread??? I like it!

Good news, you don't need to have a card or Paypal attached to your Microsoft Account to buy/redeem backwards compatibility games on XB1 now. Microsoft Account balance works.

@Grumblevolcano They must have been working on the 360 marketplace, it has compatibility errors and perhaps once they finish Games with Gold they can put backwards compatible games in the same database as the Xbox One and Series X games.

I want to ask about getting Xbox 360 Slim model or E model whether i can get either of them someday or maybe next year.
Do i need to connect with internet to get the latest update for Xbox 360?
Do you think it is very late to play Xbox 360 on year 2021?

@Anti-Matter
1. Here is the info on how to update your Xbox 360 offline. You will need a USB flash drive.
This is the official Microsoft info:
https://support.xbox.com/help/xbox-360/console/system-updates...

2. It is never too late if you really want it! Also if I am not mistaken the online shop is still open and it will be for a long time unlike some of Nintendo online shops of old consoles.

But you'd still have to get the update online.... & have a PC? Surely easier to connect the console directly to the internet

@NEStalgia Didn't DOOM, one of the important games ever made, start out as shareware?

Anyway, I grew up in the mid-to-late 90s, so my conception of what a game is was obviously fashioned around that time. Boxed cartridges or CDs you insert into a console.

But times change, and one has to either change with them or become irrelevant. To some extent, at least. I adapted to streaming my movies and anime, but if video game streaming becomes the norm, I'm going full oldfart and becoming a pure retrogamer.

Anyway, as has been stated, it's probably less of an "expansion" and more of a spinoff game. It'll likely be a complete experience, appreciable on its own, with a beginning, middle, and end. And it's clearly one that's taking advantage of the increased specs of the PS5. Sony has always done it that way. EVERYONE has. No reason to expect them to stop making exclusives just become Microsoft decided to blur the lines with the Series X (which aren't particularly blurry anyway, because by the time most of that new stuff they're working on comes out, it likely won't support the older Xbox One hardware to begin with).

RE: Gaming and affordability, if the Series S is a thing, I could see it being a big deal for gamers in lower economic tiers. A few hundred dollars for the console + GamePass is more than enough to happily subsist on. I find that to be a much more compelling proposition than their current "MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER!!!!!111 13TF!!!!" marketing that only matters to so-called elitist gamers anyway.