Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I decided to double dip on more games I've had on Xbox for years, Burnout Paradise and the Bioshock Trilogy. As time goes, I'm feeling increasingly more towards the view about only buying games if they're available on the Switch (and native of course, absolutely not regarding cloud).

@JaxonH is a possibilty given that since last year theres was rumors Nintendo EPD 8(the 3D Mario team was working on a Donkey Kong game, with conflicting reports on if this game is 2D or 3D), given that in 2024 the Super Nintendo World will get a area dedicated to Donkey Kong and is rumored, Illumination is also working on a movie for Donkey Kong with Seth Rogen returning to reprise the character, all this facts seen to align Nintendo might be preparing a new game for the Donkey Kong franchise be it 2D or 3D, @Kaisu you right Miyamoto mentioned in a interview he focus in little details for the Pikmin franchise, they could easily do a 60fps Pikimin game, but Pikmin is to immerse yourself in this world, @Grumblevolcano nice now Atlus have more excuse to forget the others consoles when Persona 6 is anounced.

I stumbled over this music video. Super Mario Sunshine Remake here we goooo! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_tbrwPHn2p8&t=233s

Unlike the other stuff that looks too realistic, this actually feels like Nintendo. Whoever made this has great talent.

@Grumblevolcano
As time goes, I'm feeling increasingly more towards the view about only buying games if they're available on the Switch

That's what it is. I was double dipping for years, but I find I just don't play games if they're not on Switch, so I pretty much quit buying games on PS5/XSX/PC knowing I just won't play them. I just pretend games don't exist until a Switch version is announced. Too many quality Switch games available now to care about playing games elsewhere. I can wait, and would rather wait, until I can play it hybrid on the OLED. And if it's too demanding, I probably just won't play it at all.

Agreed. I’m getting out of the double dipping game as well. Like some stuff like TES games where I get on PC for mods means I will buy a switch version but now that I have my TVs set up the only way I am getting the non switch version as my main is if it is exclusive to one of the twins. Anything that has been announced for switch or looks like it can run on switch I will just wait it out.

@JaxonH
I personally will pick 3rd party multi console games on PS4 or PS5 version, not the Switch version after the last time I experienced with downgraded quality 3rd party multi console games on Switch version.
I have some games that I double dipped on Switch and PS4 version but looks like I started to neglect the Switch version and continue more the PS4 version.

@kaisu @Ryu_Niiyama
It's the hybrid versatility. It's too good. It's ruined traditional gaming for me. It's like being introduced to the cell phone, then going back to a landline... it just doesn't suit my needs, no matter how much better the call quality is. This will be even more true when Switch 2 releases and that gap is closed to a drastic extent. I imagine games will look identical on Switch as PS5/XSX unless you bust out a 4x zoom analysis, barring a 720p handheld resolution and 1080p docked resolution (though many games could be upscaled to 4k, we'll at least see 1080p become the new baseline).

At that point there won't be any more underwhelming ports from games too demanding, aside from shoddy programming which is a concern on any platform.

I fully expect Switch games to be BC as well, so building up the Switch library could very soon pay dividends on Switch 2 with games that have unlocked framerates. Monster Hunter Stories 2 would insta-lock to 1080p 60fps. Neo The World Ends With You, even Pokemon Scarlet/Violet would insta-lock to 30.

New rating for Borderlands 3 coming to Switch surfaced. That's another one I regret buying on Steam now. At least it was half off after the Epic exclusivity, but it's still money that will have been wasted on a double dip.

In theory, there are too many games I want to play industry-wide to ever just go full Nintendo. I love my Final Fantasy 7s, Elder Scrolls, Silent Hills, and the like.

In practice, even owning a ton of different platforms, nine times out of ten, when I want to play something, I reach for my Switch. Even when it means playing a Switch game I'm less excited for over a PS4/PC game I would otherwise be more excited for. I've been sitting on 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim for years, despite really wanting to play that game, lol. Ditto with Sakura Wars. And then, when these games inevitably get ported, I kick myself for having bought the "wrong" version, but detest the thought of wasting money double-dipping, especially when I have a Switch backlog as well, which makes me go even longer without playing the games in question.

I'm more tolerant of double-dipping if I've already beaten the game in question. I double-dipped on Tetris Effect and played it through a second time in handheld mode on my SWOLED. No regrets. It's still an amazing experience. If I ever buy a VR platform, that'll be my first purchase, as I've heard it's even better in VR.

I'll continue to play games I already own on other platforms (especially on PS4/Vita, where I'm far more interested in trophy hunting than on Steam/Xbox), but, going forward, it'll be difficult justifying the purchase of non-Nintendo hardware that'll inevitably be ignored throughout the generation.

@Ryu_Niiyama OT: Like the new Lightyear avvie!

@JaxonH Versatility is right. Brand new shiny tv, ps5/series x, pop in a game and…remember why I drifted away from the twins in the first place. “What do you mean I can’t play as soon as I toss the game in? It’s gonna take how long to load?!” In the meantime I find my dock, connect it and start playing in 10 minutes (had to connect the mclassic). Series x is still rumbling away. I’d forgotten how inconvenient the other systems are and quick resume fails so much (one of the pros of the series x for me…wasted).

I don’t dislike the other systems but they don’t agree with my lifestyle. I have no free time.

@Ralizah I have seen the movie six times now and bawled like a baby each time. Commander Alisha Hawthorne is the superheroine I have longed for all my life. For her to be a part of my favorite Disney franchise is a double win for me. I’m trying to figure out if I buy a standee of her where the heck will I put it. I’m going to miss the perfume avatars (they are still my page banner) but this one is permanent.

@Magician Not sure if I will buy all of them (I am done for the year) but I am curious about these.
December 1: Papetura (Switch)
December 1: Railbound (Switch)
December 1: River City Girls 1 & 2 (PS5, PS4, Switch)
December 1: Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered (PS5, PS4, Switch, PC)
December 1: Sword of the Vagrant (PS5, PS4, XBO, Switch)
December 8: Chained Echoes (PS5, PS4, XBX/S, XBO, Switch, PC)
December 8: Mech Armada (Switch)
December 8: The Rumble Fish 2 (PS5, PS4, XBX/S, XBO, Switch, PC)
December 8: Samurai Maiden (PS5, PS4, Switch, PC)
December 9: Dragon Quest Treasures (Switch)
December 9: Jitsu Squad (Switch)
December 13: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7 Reunion (PS5, PS4, XBX/S, XBO, Switch, PC)
December 13: Operation Wolf Returns: First Mission (PS5, PS4, Switch)
December 15: Aery - Path of Corruption (XBO, Switch, PC)
December 15: Aka (Switch, PC)

@Ryu_Niiyama
My brother really likes quick resume. 10 years ago he was hard-core into 3DS, then GPD Win, then PS, then he built his own PC and got hard into that, now he's all about Xbox and gamepass. Always going on about quick resume. And I'm like ya, it's great... if you're playing different games every day. Whereas I tend to stick with a game for weeks on end (I try new games when they release so there's that). But in principle ya, it's the removal of barriers. I've been preaching to him about why I play Switch all the time, and it boils down to how few barriers are between me and playing. This is the microwave generation. I don't have time for all that nonsense. I like insta-wake, insta-sleep, taking Switch out of dock and it instantly transfers to handheld, drop in dock and it instantly turns tv on, switches input and is on the big screen. Low barrier of entry matters.

Give me a choice of the exact same game on Switch, PS5, XSX on Gamepass, PC and Steamdeck, and I'm going with Switch OLED every time. The value isn't in games being "exclusive", the value is in games being "exclusively hybrid on one device". You could take every Switch exclusive in existence and port to every other platform and it wouldn't change a single thing for me.

The only unfortunate downside is, ya, some games just don't run well on Switch, but like I said before- enough do that it's easy to ignore the ones that don't. In theory I like having access to all consoles (hence why I own every console), but in practice I just never use them. Idk why I keep buying them when I've never really liked Sony or MS 1st party exclusives (and even if I did they're releasing on Steam now anyways so).

But history repeats itself. PS6 and Xbox5 will release and I'll say nah, I'm good, then a preorder will go live and I'll be like, eh, better lock one in just in case, and the cycle repeats itself 😀

@Ralizah
"In practice, even owning a ton of different platforms, nine times out of ten, when I want to play something, I reach for my Switch. Even when it means playing a Switch game I'm less excited for over a PS4/PC game I would otherwise be more excited for."

I'm the opposite currently.
I have more hype with my PS4 games I bought recently and I rarely played my Switch games during this year.
The last time I have bad experience with downgraded quality of 3rd party multi console games, it was the last time I pick 3rd party multi console games on Switch.

@Anti-Matter
So why are you hanging out in the Switch thread if all you ever wanna talk about is repeating how you hate playing games on Switch?

You do you, nothing wrong with having preferences, but it seems to me you'd get more conversation from like minded people in the PushSquare thread, as opposed to coming to the Switch thread to repeat ad nauseum how you don't like playing on Switch

@JaxonH
I still like my Nintendo Switch but I rarely play my Switch games currently as every year my hype switched depend on what machines I want to play.
I didn't say I hate my Switch.
This year my hype is really high on PS4 games so I build my PS4 games quickly during this year, even I bought some Switch games during this year too. Last year and last two years ago I rarely bought Switch games for your information.
But at some point in my honest opinion, I can't sugar coat anymore the downgraded quality from 3rd party multi console games I found on Switch version compared with PS4 / PS5 version. Some peoples maybe don't really mind but for me after certain points, I cannot accept the downgraded quality like that if I can get better version on PS4 / PS5 version even I have to sacrifice the portability. That's fine as I also played other non portable games such as PS2, PS3, Wii, Wii U, etc. But, I still give the chance for my Switch games library to grow so I made a different approach.
From now on, my Switch games will only consist 1st party + 3rd party exclusives + 1st / 3rd party remastered from other Nintendo consoles.
And 3rd party multi console games will be for my PS4 / PS5 since they are really depend on 3rd party games. I only like Ratchet & Clank games on PS4 & PS5 for 1st party from Sony.
And that's win win solution for me so I still able to build my PS4 / PS5 games and at the same time I still keep playing Switch games whenever I'm in the mood.

@JaxonH For me it's about that every year has had very surprising 3rd party ports whether on a technical level or an exclusivity ending level and those ones have generally gotten more surprising as time has gone on. The Playstation exclusive Final Fantasy blowout announcement in the September 2018 Direct I'd say is still the most surprising of them all but following that would be a bunch of 2022 announcements.

@Grumblevolcano
At the time it was pretty hype. Final Fantasy X was my first ever JRPG I played through and beat. Thought it was never gonna leave PS. I used to think it would be so cool having those games on Switch, but didn't think it would actually happen. So when it did, I was bouncing off the walls. Seeing Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core come day and date was just as hype though.

Persona 5 Royal is another. Everyone said it was never gonna happen, but I always believed it would get ported eventually.

There's been a lot. Ori and the Blind Forest followed by Will of the Wisps. That was massive. 13 Sentinels.

Switch has gotten so much more than I ever expected. It's changed the game. But Switch 2 is when I think we see the seismic shift occur. Now that 3rd parties know Switch consistently gives them best selling versions of their games, and once they have a platform that can run all their games adequately, they're gonna blow it up.

Switch 2 will likely become the best console of all time (not necessarily best selling). If it has BC with all Switch games and irons many of them out, and gets blown up with twice as many games as Switch did... the real golden era is still ahead of us. The Switch is just a foreshadowing.

@JaxonH I will have to research why quick resume doesn’t seem to work on my system. It just breaks.

@Ryu_Niiyama
That's weird. Could be a specific game that's not compatible. I know there are some exceptions

I started a new job earlier this month, and increased my hours, so have had very little time for this site and any gaming, so got some catching up to do.

@Ryu_Niiyama I initiated a conversation with you here, weeks ago, in which you'd given me a reasonably lengthy response. I've been meaning ever since to reply but just lacked the energy/time to do so properly. Apologies, never intended to ghost you. Fwiw, you've not done anything to particularly indicate you had an issue with me, but you tend to make it clear you don't suffer fools, and I've wondered previously if I've occasionally skirted to close to the 'Jerk' line for your patience. Anyway, just know that I'm glad not to have crossed that line significantly (to date) cos I enjoy the opportunity to read your posts and interact. Any time you wanna throw any specific philosophy or tech book recommendations my way, I'm here 🙂

Oh really? You just realised something...? More like you've been crawling through my post history looking for some of my nuggets to dig up and claim as your own... 😜

I'm still on the fence too, though. Breath of the Wild went 'Boom!' because it reinvented the Zelda series in a fantastic way and coincided with the release of an exciting piece of new, portable, hardware. The perfect storm for a console launch.

Unless Nintendo has outdone themselves though, I am not expecting Tears of The Kingdom to be able to reach the heights of 'reinvention'; it just can't possibly hit with the same impact BotW had - it's just a sequel, with the same art style, the same/similar version of Link (I assume), Zelda etc. and as such it's not necessarily going to be the best software to release with a new console. A new console launch ideally needs some new software that has something distinctly new and different about it - is ToTK going to be distinctive enough to fulfil that role?

More Splatoon 3 icons are December's NSO rewards.

@gcunit I like that... "I don't suffer fools"...as for the ghosting I never am bothered by that as I work so much that I am not online consistently. So I catch convos when I can and move on when I can't. No biggie to me. I usually give a three strikes rule unless a person is obviously a jerk or is unhinged. Then I gotta go ASAP. If I engage, I enjoy speaking with you/I have something to say is my rule.

Not sure your level, but I re read Morris Kline's Mathematics for the Nonmathematician often, as it is a lovely foray into the history and culture of the craft. I feel like I learn something new every time I read it. If you are more advanced, I have a few books on Quantum Field Theory I can suggest. I also like to reread Hyperspace by Dr. Michio Kaku when I feel adrift. (That book put me on my path and I corresponded with him when I was a teenager). Philosophy wise I am reading an inquiry into the good by Nishida Kitaro and doing my monthly read of Ki in Daily Life by Koichi Tohei-sensei and history wise I am reading the half has never been told by Edward Baptist (looks at the american slave trade and its impact on bedrocking the american economy).

I still say TotK will have a limited edition OLED rather than switch 2/whatever. Congrats on the job!