@BTB20 Whatever you say

@the_beaver maybe just the demo lol 😆

@Aquinas What...?? Pikmin 3, especially the Deluxe edition, is a very long game. What did you play?? Lol.

I enjoyed Pikmin 3 a ton... for the 15 minutes it lasted. What a ridiculously short game! I was so disappointed that it was just suddenly over before it felt like it really got going. For that reason I doubt I'd buy it on S2, but I'd borrow it from the library I guess.

Edit: If we got a Pikmin 4 S2 Edition, though, I'd buy it in a second. Probably a 1+2 one, too.

Its crazy how popular Tamagotchi is in Japan.

@LikelySatan oh, the tone is lost through internet comments

Here's my bet:
A free technical upgrade for Pikmin 3 now, and a massive upgrade + DLC for Pikmin 4 within a few months.
And Pikmin 5 for 2027 or early 2028.

a more fitting analogy would be that theyre trying to use a machine gun to cut some veggies just because you could twist some words and put it in the same category as a knife. yeah you can cherry pick and twist logic all you want but in the end nobody wants the end result of sloppily cutting corners that should never be cut.

disappointed but not surprised, level 5 has been pathetic since the 3ds era ended. i played fantasy life i expecting disappointment and still ended up shocked at just how soulless they managed to make it. this is not a company that cares about their games or their audience, and i hope all the time its taken for their big franchises to get new entries results in lower sales. i for one dont like watching my childhood favourite games being weekend at bernies-d

@AverageGamer true. The devs barely know how to code a game for the switch. They wouldnt stand a chance coding a game on modern day hardware.

Same probably goes for most nintendo devs. Theyre too far behind.

Keep pushing things gamers don’t like. See how this “time saver” will turn out for you.

I hope this is part of a wave of new updates, I understand Nintendo wanting to give native Switch 2 versions to games they want to push like Jamboree and Animal Crossing but sprinkling in some smaller-scale resolution/frame rate boosts to a handful of games every now and then would be very welcome!

@obijuankanoobie The Switch version has a bit more content, and an easy and hard mode. But if you can find the Wii U version out in the wild it'll be a lot cheaper, so if your concern is price then it wouldn't hurt looking for it

@Teksette So your Totally fine paying $9.99 for Space Invaders on Switch 2? Btw these aren't ports like Namco used to do with their Namco Museums especially the PS1 ones with the virtual museums it's roms on a emulator, there just doing what make does for free, only there making a mint here $20 if you wanted both Switch 2 versions of Space Invaders 1 and part 2 there's barely any changes between games it's more of a slight update/patch then a sequel for that price you could just could get the Space Invaders Compilation that has 11 games new and old not just the 70s roms, also there's Sega Ages by M2 they were much cheaper and with most releases actually ported the games to new systems adding new game features and improvements, I did like Hamster but they lost me on expecting people to buy any old rom they stick in their emulator for their ridiculous prices...again why does Space invaders a 1978 game need a Switch 2 upgrade? That costs $9.99??

Seeing as I'm currently replaying all the games, it would be awesome if there will be a Switch 2 version of 3 as well. Although it would be weird, considering 4 would be much more deservering of one.

I wish Pikmin 1 and 2 would get proper remakes.

The Switch HD versions have not tempted me much because of their graphical limitations.
I was so disappointed when Nintendo revealed Pikmin 1+2 (HD), because I realized it meant remakes would probably not come anytime soon...
It's just so far from the enchanting visual atmosphere of Pikmin 3 and 4.

I did love Pikmin 1 on GameCube, but that was 24 years ago (yeiks.. almost a quarter of a century), and 3D graphics have come a bit further since then.

True remakes of Pikmin 1 and 2 could ofcourse also enhance and expand the games in other ways as well.

Nintendo survives and thrives on its exclusives because it releases a high comparative volume of them and there are not many duds.

In fairness, Sony has some quality IP but they also have many droughts between releases with long development cycles between announcement and release. Sony survives on multiplat and powerful hardware ..... xbox tried the same but has no unique proposition to win the tech two horse race.

Exclusivity works as proven with high quality and volume.

Ive been coming back for 40 years, so Nintendos exclusivity works for me.

Give it 10-15 years and apart from handheld, hardware will either be dead and buried or on its way out and the only thing that will matter is the games.

As it should and always be.

I'm getting serious Persona fatigue. I think they should be concerned about not killing their brand with too many iterations of the same games. I mean Persona games are already VERY samey so yeah.

More SMT would be wonderful! You want to go for a remake? SMTIV is the best game in the series and the perfect candidate! SMTVI would be very much welcome. Also I'd love to see Metaphor on the NS2.

Just make Persona shut up for a while. For its own good.

Loved the stylus controls in Pikmin 3 on the Wii U.

Might buy the Deluxe version for Switch 2 when it comes and check out the mouse controls.

@shoeses yeah that was the reason i never bought deluxe. I have my wiiu still hooked up (mainly for wii lightgun gams and gamecube), so didn’t ser the reason. Lovely 4k, 60hz could be a reason though.

@LordPieFace

Thanks for answering my Q on “what is the value add?” etc; always appreciate learning something new and especially from a different perspective.

My assumption was that for an artist the “creating several angles of the same object” felt tedious, and didn’t contribute much to the creative end result. (As I stated, I’m no expert on the topic, and you’re very correct in that I don’t work with animation or art per se. My oldest sister is an accomplished artist, but I’ve mainly seen her paint and sculpt which didn’t help with my ignorance in this regard I would claim I take art seriously however, especially all creative processes leading to the betterment of humankind. I do lack some knowledge but don’t we all.)

@mikegamer I haven't heard about Rebirth selling particularly strongly on PC.
And if this is your argument for why exclusives should disappear completely then the tell me why so many of Nintendo's games are among the best selling ever despite being exclusives.

@ShadLink No, DeNa as Wikipedia says made the service infrastructure, My Nintendo integration, and development cooperation with Nintendo EPD for Miitomo, Super Mario Run, AC Pocket Camp and Mario Kart Tour and the same with Intelligent Systems and Fire Emblem Heroes. They made Pokémon Masters together with the Pokémon Company and Pokémon TCG Pocket on their own.

I don't believe in console exclusives ever, 100%, never ever. Except Nintendo games.

@Angelic_Lapras_King Whoa, you’re right. I still think of Pikmin as a new franchise but that’s made me feel well old!

I loved pikmin 4 and consider it the best in the series but 3 certainly has its cult following. I still think it would be surprising for them to release 3 before 4. Unless they are going for a full on remake and not an NS2 upgrade. In which case anything is possible. Of course pikmin 3 already had its remake on the NS1 so that would be a bit weird.

Games are not like art or there would be people like say James Cameron is in film doing everything as well as they possibly can and to hell with anything that disturbs what he wants.

I am not really bothered about the art in games or even really the story only interesting mechanics and that they work well technically. All the extra stuff that comes with an AAA game is not that important to me. (Obviously I would prefer to have people making exactly what I want but it’s not going to happen everything caters for the lowest common denominator.)

A tool, thats all AI should be, GenAI is not a tool. Your relying on just the microwave to make you a meal, prompting it with information to make what you want and sitting back doing nothing. Just like GenAI. If you ask it to make you new layton puzzles its just going to be old layton puzzles with a lick of paint

@CaptainRPG No but Chef’s are generally not against things that help others make better food. If you are willing to put in the effort it is pretty easy to find a video from a top chef showing you exactly how to do something. They obviously have more experience but they do care (ans a group )about helping people eat better food.

I don't think 7 quid is an issue, games don't have to be cheaper because they're old, and honestly people that want them almost for free and scoffs at legendary titles doesn't really want to pay for games at all and probably doesn't, they're probably the kind that says "I don't need it, I have an Anbernic".

But I also think that Hamster shouldn't charge 15 for any release, Namco System 22 or whatever, and they should do regular sales across their titles, not only once in months and from a very reduced group of games. After all these years, though, if they didn't change their policy that means that it works for them.

@somnambulance I completely agree with you. Pikmin 3 with co-op Mission Mode is the funnest gaming I’ve ever played. In fact on Christmas Day this year we were getting the platinum medal on the Fortress of Festivity mission mode level and it was as fun as it gets. I hope a Switch 2 version comes out with local wireless co-op. Can you imagine the fun of bingo battle if you couldn’t see the other player’s screen?

60fps @1080p+ needs to happen. And as great as that would be, The NS2 version is still going to pale in comparison to how P3 plays on Wii U with the Wii Remote, Nunchuck & SB, if Motion pointer aiming is your preferred way to play.

It even allows you to use the the Wii U game pad on a kickstand for the map which was a real neat touch. I had a blast with just the few hours I poured into the Wii U version several years ago. But the NS1 demo was a dissapointment purely based on controls. As is, unless I'm mistaken both versions run at 720p + 30fps.

I'd still bite, but it still isn't going to be the clear winner of the two if you were a fan of Pikmin 1, 2 & 3's Wii pointer controls which unfortunately still can't be replicated proplerly using either the Joy-Con 2's as there's no sensor bar(Reference).
Pikmin 1&2 NS are also in desperate need of a 60fps bump. Baffling that Nintendo left them as is at 30fps.

But ya, using the left Joy-con(With a Backside grip for improved comfort) and the right joy-con slotted inside a quality Mouse shell grip to use for Mouse controls, docked, would be a nice bonus. Would love to see how that would play out.

And i can't even play Pikmin 4 at 30fps. 3rd person camera moves so fast, that it makes the motion clarity look smeary and choppy on both my OLED TV & QD Mini-LED.

Your not a chef just because you can put food in the microwave

No genAI means no genAI. Screw you and your games until you realize that.

3 on the Wii U was my favorite in the series.
In 4 they crammed in to much stuff that it became a bit unfocused imo.

I would like to repay 3 on switch 2... but my guess is that they will ask way too much for it, so I guess I will just replay it on the old U some day...

@BTB20 Weren't all of those developed by DeNA?

@MontyCircus What is a TV? A lot of people don't use TVs these days. I only still have a TV for that one day in about 3 months that I play on my PS5. Everything else is on PC or on Switch 2 now.

So yeah, that one device to play all is called a PC. Only it doesn't have Nintendo games. So I still need a second device.

I will not buy a next gen console. XBOX will basically be a PC and PlayStation has been quite underwhelming this and previous generation for games I actually like. I might buy a Steam Machine (if the price isn't too high) or a 'Switch 3'.

@Angelic_Lapras_King

I don’t think that Nintendo will touch Pikmin 1+2 for a Switch 2 Edition. These games look more emulated (like Super Mario Sunshine) than native Switch code. In this case, the code base is totally outdated, and bringing the games to 60 fps could be a major issue. And without 60 fps, an update would make no sense.

Just put those games on cards

The only thing making me REALLY excited would be games on cards.

Someone dared Nintendo to do everything Pikmin related except for a Switch 2 Edition for Pikmin 4.

First do 4! Come on.. it needs mouse support and a higher resolution.

I rank the Pikmin series 1, 3, 4, 2

Very satisfying to juice your fruit at the end of each day.

Pikmin 3 on Switch 2 at 1440p 30 fps letsgoooo!!!

@Jam78
In the end, they still decided to give the original a little bit of structure. You still need to get some items in the dungeons, in order to finish the rest of them. And you need to finish the first 8 to get access to the last dungeon.

And there were no Ubisoft towers.

The "someday-in-the-future" dream is "Gaming TVs", where Playstation, Nintendo, Xbox are just subscription and store apps and there's no boxes necessary. Maybe it's all cloud, maybe the TV would have memory cards you could download onto, etc.