Yeah well - Zelda is not stuck in the myre, TP was fan service - for ungrateful fans. And an exceptional game in any case....
I feel neither grateful or ungrateful when a new Zelda is released, or any game, for that matter, and I do love the series -- but I owe Nintendo no loyalty or thanks for receiving my hard earned money, which I spent on a product of theirs which was in no way bad really, felt a little too familiar to me about 90% of time, and so not very exciting, ultimately. If you put something out into the world, especially when you are charging for the experience, people have the right to be openly pleased or displeased -- Zelda isn't a favor, or a privilege -- it's an exchange, which goes both ways, of course
Well no kidding. All I am saying is the ppl who most wanted a TP-like game are now the most backside hurt by it. Am I right?
Here is my problem. Peoples' 'solutions' to the series are more generic than the 'problems' you have with the series...
We need voice acting ! - No I can read faster than some t3rd rate voice actor can deliver the lines. Look at MP3 for poor dialouge,,,,
We need steampunk! - Yeah!....uh, no - so....just make the game look like Final Fantasy Whatever - big deal....
You cannot talk to all the NPC! - But you CAN talk to frogs, and cats, and epona - aces!
TP was too eaasy! - YEah it is too easy - but are you not some of the same ppl who complain that Zelda I and II are too hard? And since when is Ocarin so hard? Hah! ALso ppl play with a guide in one hand these days anyway - the faster to see the story completed. Epic fail.
*The enemy AI was GC era?! - So what - the enemy AI in NSMBWii will have arcade/NES AI - that will not hurt the difficulty - it is all in how the AI and enemies are used in LEVEL design to create the difficulty! So its a nonstarter, an imaginary problem. Again the problem is thaat most fans care more about the story, will not tolerate being stuck by difficult games i.e. NES era, and are by and large hypocrites.
Have to go now, town hall meeting - but I will pick this up again. Zelda fans here will not tolerate TP being rated as a medicore game by ppl who do not know what they want from the series or have really generic ideas to 'fix' it.
Also, have any of the Zelda games been direct sequels? From what I've played, each one has its own story.
They do tend to make the games' stories very self contained. (You can play any game in the series with no prior knowledge of any of the others.) But the pairings of the ones that are related looks like this:
LoZ to AoL (goal is to unite the long lost and forgotten Triforce of Courage with the Triforces of Wisdom and Power that you obtained in the first game)
LttP to LA (Link left Hyrule on a journey of self discovery because he was concerned that new threats would rise against Hyrule in the future, and he gets shipwrecked on his way back home)
OoT to MM (Link gets sucked into one more adventure while looking to reunite with Navi)
TWW to PH (and also ST after that? anyway, Link and Tetra find trouble at sea while looking for a new land to settle)
TP to... nothing yet unless you count LCT
TMC to... no direct sequels, but it is related to FS and FSA (it provides the backstory for Vaati and the Four Sword)
FS to FSA (fan speculation is that FS and FSA feature the same Link. I think this would explain how Ganon knew that Vaati would be an effective distraction while he went after the Trident of Power.)
OoA to OoS and vice versa (special ending can be played after playing both games in either order. it turns out that someone was using the villains of each game to get at some magic that could be combined to revive Ganon.)
@MrMicawber-Eugene, if you think Twilight Princess is just as good or even better compared to the other Zelda games, why don't you give us proof? Twilight Princess is not a medicore Zelda game, it is is a good game. But, it CANNOT hold a candle to almost all the other Zelda games. I think the three best Zelda games are Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, and A Link to the Past. Zelda Wii would have to PERFECT to be better than these three classics. I would like to see something more original in Zelda Wii, similar to Majora's Mask.
@MrMicawber-Eugene, if you think Twilight Princess is just as good or even better compared to the other Zelda games, why don't you give us proof? Twilight Princess is not a medicore Zelda game, it is is a good game. But, it CANNOT hold a candle to almost all the other Zelda games. I think the three best Zelda games are Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, and A Link to the Past. Zelda Wii would have to PERFECT to be better than these three classics. I would like to see something more original in Zelda Wii, similar to Majora's Mask.
Prove? - prove nothing.
SNES Zelda is among the best ever Zeldas - you lost me at Hy-rule.
All Zelda games have original elements - as do all Mario games. It is tradition. It is Nintendo ambition. I could name dozens upon dozens of original elements to TP - but why should I? The burden of 'proof' lies with the detractors - what makes their opinion of TP as a mediocre Zelda valid? If they cannot back up their bluster - why take it serious?
I have no problem with scores in reviews ussually - but the text of some review is hilarious. They become not reviews of game but editorials of the reviewers narrow visions - the reviewers ideas (his own private building of castles in the air) tacked onto a completed work, the reviewers idea of what this game should have been (had he made it, he supposes), and often a fanboy glorifcation of some game or idea of the past - that is to say his MEMORIES of an EARLIER GAME that THIS ?GAME could NEVER live up to!
Stuff and nonsense, but the Nintendo Life review of Zelda has all of those charachteristics. Just an observartion.
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(My Town Hall meeting was an ACTUAL Town Hall meeting btw - lol!)
IGN: The holiday Wii lineup looks thin for the hardcore crowd. We see this. Gamers see this. What, if anything, is Nintendo planning to address it?
Oh good, I am neither a gamer or hardcore. Saves me from having to be IGNorant. Right, Down, A, Down, Right, Up
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