"Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault Oh really?!?! Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site). 47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.
360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.
The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.
The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .
So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?
@Sony_70
I know he was comparing launch games. My point was that the games will be out around the same time. It doesn't matter whether their launch games or not.
@uptownsoul
I'm not one to take reviews very seriously. It gives some good insight, but it ultimately comes down to how much YOU enjoy the game. The games that come to mind immediately when I think of overrated games are: Uncharted 2 & 3, The Last of Us, Dead Space 2 and 3, Assassin's Creed series, Ratchet & Clank: ToD, Borderlands 1, etc. high rated games. Even Braid wasn't a 93 or whatever game. I got bored of that $*** so fast, but there it is on the highest rated list.
Notice how I didn't put Uncharted 1 or Dead Space 1 above... I even liked Mirror's Edge better than some of the highest rated games, and that didn't score very well. Ratings are pretty subjective. I found the some of the user scores to be more fair, but even some those seem generous.
But the Last of Us is the citizen Kane of Gaming lulz.
If were comparing just comparing the line up's for this year than I'd honestly say they're pretty even to me.
Wii U
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
WIi Party U
Donkey Kong Country Returns Tropical Freeze
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics 2014
Super Mario 3D Land
Wii Fit U
Playstation 4
The Playroom
Knack
Killzone: Shadowfall
Drive CLub
Resgogun
Flower
DC Universe Online
Xbox One
Dead Rising 3
Ryse: Son of Rome
Killer Instinct
Crimson Dragon
Lococycle
Powerstar Golf
Zoo Tycoon
All three have great line ups. For me it personally came down to wanting to play some Fifa 14 which pushed the WIii U to next year. Than it came down to all the indie games, free to play, and MMO's the PS4 will have at launch. (or when I get one between Jan-march). Plus I want to play DCUO.
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I think you're at the point where you're not really understanding what everyone is saying, but instead you are mostly trying to validate some sort of notion within yourself. I said Nintendo as a first party is easily the most-often lauded developer, being responsible for some of the most iconic games of all time. Part of this is simply by virtue of the company being around for so much longer than Microsoft and Sony, and part of it is simply because they are good at what they do. Yes, Sony has many awesome games they've developed first or second party (and I've enjoyed quite of few of them on my own Playstation consoles), but they simply don't stack up to the behemoth that Nintendo is and has been throughout memory. That's why VC is such a big deal for Nintendo consoles - I'm not talking about Nintendo's great games on just the Wii U, Wii, Gamecube, and N64. We can go all the way back to NES, SNES, and Gameboy - long before Sony ever entered the video game arena. So I'll say it again: to try and argue that Nintendo's first-party games are not "good" or that the notion is only an opinion is silly, as they've been recognized as being outstanding for about 30 years now.
If you want to be fair by comparing those lineups, you need to take DC Universe away from PS4 - it's available on PC, as well. None of the Nintendo games you listed are. Also, many people believe we'll be seeing quite a few of those Xbone games on the PC, too. Keep the playing field equal and I'll respect what you're saying.
That's why VC is such a big deal for Nintendo consoles - I'm not talking about Nintendo's great games on just the Wii U, Wii, Gamecube, and N64. We can go all the way back to NES, SNES, and Gameboy - long before Sony ever entered the video game arena
VC could and should be a big deal, which is why Nintendo's handling of it is so dissapointing.
I think it's not the best idea to compare PS4 and Wii U as rivals. Sony's strategy is to do whatever it takes to get back on top, while Nintendo's plan is to just be successful and profit. I honestly think if Nintendo is in 2nd place, the company will be more than happy (unless it's a far away 2nd place ala everything that wasn't PS2 in the early 2000s).
Now one thing I needed to point out, people need to stop assuming that the key for Wii U to win is to get as many multi-console games as possible. Having those unquestionably make the console look more varied and are a good thing, but let's be honest, even if Wii U becomes a big deal after this holiday season, how many of these games will be popular on Nintendo? Having poorly selling 3rd party titles can be far worse for the company than not having those games at all. What they should be doing is focusing on helping a few of the big multi-console titles be successful (especially from Ubisoft), and the rest on using their own brand name to, in some way or another, work with less gigantic companies to elevate their games to mainstream popularity. That way they not only have more 3rd party games that people buy, but potentially more exclusive ones and from companies that have a reason to be grateful to Nintendo specifically.
I think you're at the point where you're not really understanding what everyone is saying, but instead you are mostly trying to validate some sort of notion within yourself. I said Nintendo as a first party is easily the most-often lauded developer, being responsible for some of the most iconic games of all time. Part of this is simply by virtue of the company being around for so much longer than Microsoft and Sony, and part of it is simply because they are good at what they do. Yes, Sony has many awesome games they've developed first or second party (and I've enjoyed quite of few of them on my own Playstation consoles), but they simply don't stack up to the behemoth that Nintendo is and has been throughout memory. That's why VC is such a big deal for Nintendo consoles - I'm not talking about Nintendo's great games on just the Wii U, Wii, Gamecube, and N64. We can go all the way back to NES, SNES, and Gameboy - long before Sony ever entered the video game arena. So I'll say it again: to try and argue that Nintendo's first-party games are not "good" or that the notion is only an opinion is silly, as they've been recognized as being outstanding for about 30 years now.
If you want to be fair by comparing those lineups, you need to take DC Universe away from PS4 - it's available on PC, as well. None of the Nintendo games you listed are. Also, many people believe we'll be seeing quite a few of those Xbone games on the PC, too. Keep the playing field equal and I'll respect what you're saying.
I was counting exclusives between the three consoles and for the majority of the mainstream market couldn't care less about PC. I mean technically Wind Waker is a gamecube game. Also there's an interna; mandate for exclusives to not be put on PC anymore. GFWL has been killed and the PC divison has turned into a mobile studio.
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"Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault Oh really?!?! Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site). 47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.
360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.
The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.
The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .
So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?
im sorry really metacritic. sony and microsoft buy there reviews and half the time they lower the score because of wii controls(saying its not hardcore) they are like ign but worst and everyone even ign gave pikmin and wonderful 101 high scores.
and @Sony_70 over a large part of the gaming community are pc gamers so what do you mean(plus almost all nintendo gamers own a gaming PC) p.s it makes you look biased with a name like that.
"Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault Oh really?!?! Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site). 47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.
360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.
The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.
The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .
So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?
im sorry really metacritic. sony and microsoft buy there reviews and half the time they lower the score because of wii controls(saying its not hardcore) they are like ign but worst and everyone even ign gave pikmin and wonderful 101 high scores.
Yeah, if you disagree with the scores, just pull out a conspiracy theory to help rationalize it. Good job.
"Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault Oh really?!?! Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site). 47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.
360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.
The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.
The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .
So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?
im sorry really metacritic. sony and microsoft buy there reviews and half the time they lower the score because of wii controls(saying its not hardcore) they are like ign but worst and everyone even ign gave pikmin and wonderful 101 high scores.
Yeah, if you disagree with the scores, just pull out a conspiracy theory to help rationalize it. Good job.
its not a consparicy if they have big ads on the website then its most likly to get the best score and why do you think that call of duty gets high scores ok google it or bing it or what ever.
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"Nintendo is always and historically the highest-scoring first-party entity." - @RallyDefault Oh really?!?! Well on PS3 there are 47games (some 1st party, some 3rd, all playable on ps3) that rated 90+ from meticritic(a game review consolidation site). 47 games in 7 years of ps3 which comes to 6.7 games per year that had 90+ consolidated score or higher, playable on the ps3.
360 had 48 games in 8years which comes to 6 games per year at 90+ rating.
The Wii had 14 games in 7 years which comes out to 2 90+ rated games per year.
The Wii U has zero games rated 90+ .
So @RallyDefault you were saying about highest rated games?
im sorry really metacritic. sony and microsoft buy there reviews and half the time they lower the score because of wii controls(saying its not hardcore) they are like ign but worst and everyone even ign gave pikmin and wonderful 101 high scores.
and @Sony_70 over a large part of the gaming community are pc gamers so what do you mean(plus almost all nintendo gamers own a gaming PC) p.s it makes you look biased with a name like that.
I mean the general consumer which buys consoles and keeps PCs a non starter for the mainstrem. PC is awesome but at the end of the day.
I better never ever say traditional PC gaming is dying ever again. It was meant as a general comment on consumer trends. Consumers don't go into stores to buy desktop PCs for gaming, they buy apps from the App Store or consoles.
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Now one thing I needed to point out, people need to stop assuming that the key for Wii U to win is to get as many multi-console games as possible.
Having those unquestionably make the console look more varied and are a good thing, but let's be honest, even if Wii U becomes a big deal after this holiday season, how many of these games will be popular on Nintendo?
Having poorly selling 3rd party titles can be far worse for the company than not having those games at all. What they should be doing is focusing on helping a few of the big multi-console titles be successful (especially from Ubisoft), and the rest on using their own brand name to, in some way or another, work with less gigantic companies to elevate their games to mainstream popularity. That way they not only have more 3rd party games that people buy, but potentially more exclusive ones and from companies that have a reason to be grateful to Nintendo specifically.
I'm not sure if this is a big insight or not, but at least it does make sense to me.
Now one thing I needed to point out, people need to stop assuming that the key for Wii U to win is to get as many multi-console games as possible.
Having those unquestionably make the console look more varied and are a good thing, but let's be honest, even if Wii U becomes a big deal after this holiday season, how many of these games will be popular on Nintendo?
Having poorly selling 3rd party titles can be far worse for the company than not having those games at all. What they should be doing is focusing on helping a few of the big multi-console titles be successful (especially from Ubisoft), and the rest on using their own brand name to, in some way or another, work with less gigantic companies to elevate their games to mainstream popularity. That way they not only have more 3rd party games that people buy, but potentially more exclusive ones and from companies that have a reason to be grateful to Nintendo specifically.
I'm not sure if this is a big insight or not, but it sure does make sense to me.
Not to me. Honestly why would any Nintendo gamer not want 3rd party titles? Have we learned nothing from the last 3 console generations? Having multiplats will help give the console more value to both the public and games alike, not having them leaves you with a valueless(for now anyway) console ala Wii U.
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Awaiting:
Kingdom Hearts 3
Mirror's Edge 2
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Rare Replay
Xenoblade Chronicles X
@PokeTune
'Multiplats' don't sell consoles though, as that honor belongs to big exclusives (Mario and friends).
The way I see it, once Nintendo's big hitters are out in the wild third parties will see Nintendo's console as a viable platform.
As @kkslider5552000 describes it, we can take that kind of support for granted - once the console gains traction.
You know what? At this point we aren't even getting games that should be a guarantee. To be honest, I'm seeing this heading towards the Wii in that regard. I'm really hoping I'm wrong because I bought my Wii in '07 and in '12 I had exactly eight games. Seven of which were first party. That is ridiculous.
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