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Topic: Will Wii U take off this winter season?

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fredcaster

321. Posted:

I went round a big shopping center the other day and the computer shops were trying really hard to make the U look attractive. Unfortunately, with such a slim number of released games, they decided to fill a shelf or two with nintendo download cards. Now I know that the big N sees this as a key feature -download games from yesteryear; pay for game which you have fond memories of- but it does not make for quality shelf space. It doesn't make the system look attractive neither does it draw attention to it. I don't know if the U will take off this winter but I feel the shops are doing their best with what there is on offer.

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rallydefault

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@skywake

Thank you, kind sir.

And to everyone else: Again, I never said the other first parties (or even third parties, for that matter) DON'T have any good games, I was just saying that, throughout Nintendo's long history (longer than any other first party, really ... except for maybe Sega? I guess they don't count anymore because they don't put out hardware?.), they've had more time and more chances to produce amazing games. And, as most will admit even without facts and statistics (though @Skywake just provided those to back this statement up), Nintendo's first-party games do tend to be quite good more often than the other first parties' games. In relation to the thread, I used this statement to explain why I felt comfortable with my Wii U purchase and why I believe, with all of Nintendo's upcoming first-party titles, that the Wii U is certainly going to see better days very soon.

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yeah you have to be incredibly skeptical to not think you're gonna have some fun times with a major Nintendo console (though some vs. a ton is an entirely different subject for too many reasons for me to bother explaining). Like even IF Wii U ends up as a Nintendo and indie box, you'd have to play a ton more games than I do for that to really make the console bad in the long run. Like I've buried the 360 in the past but that doesn't mean there aren't quite a lot of games I enjoy on that console.

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skywake

324. Posted:

fredcaster wrote:

I went round a big shopping center the other day and the computer shops were trying really hard to make the U look attractive. Unfortunately, with such a slim number of released games, they decided to fill a shelf or two with nintendo download cards. Now I know that the big N sees this as a key feature -download games from yesteryear; pay for game which you have fond memories of- but it does not make for quality shelf space. It doesn't make the system look attractive neither does it draw attention to it. I don't know if the U will take off this winter but I feel the shops are doing their best with what there is on offer.



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MAB

325. Posted:

@skywake Yeah the biggest problem I'm gonna have with the WiiU is finding the time to play all these awesome games. For example, I'm playing Giana Sisters while waiting for Blacklist to download and quick bursts of DuckTales, also still playing Monster Hunter online. Soon I will be juggling Wind Waker, AC4, Watch Dogs, Donkey Kong, Sonic LW, Mario World, bloody heaps of cool indie eShop stuff. Then it will be 2014 and I will have a massive backloggery of shame... I definitely won't have time for a PSone ;)

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@MadAussieBloke: But... but you don't have a FPS on your list? :P

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@Ryno FPS? yeah could say my WiiU has a Fully Packed Schedule ;)

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rallydefault

328. Posted:

@MadAussieBloke

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shingi_70

329. Posted:

The Wii U trailer has made me bellieve it will do okay.

TBH all this did was make me wish that Nintendo games came with soundtracks or Nintendo used itunes.

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banacheck

330. Posted:

Some of the CPU/GPU might be under an exclusive name or reformatting for the console it's in, but don't be fooled:

I agree in the past, game consoles were more custom and piecemeal: a little IBM here, some AMD there, a tiny bit of Nvidia. Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and Wii U, it's AMD has put significant legwork in these consoles. But it still takes years of development with the manufacturer, Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo, and i'm sorry thay are not the same with a exclusive name as you put it, lol.

it really is an apples to oranges debate, but the pears only see in envious shades of green.

To recap, console is king & PC gamers have to beg to get certain games on there platform, if console players where peasants it would be the other way around. Diablo2 is better than 3, and lets not forget the DRM online only in the PC version.

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SCAR392

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I don't even see how anyone can PC game. I haven't played PC since I was 7. I understand PC versions are generally better, but they will always be built around consoles, because that's where the market is.

If PC didn't exist as a gaming platform, we would get the PC games on gaming systems, no doubt. I think PC gaming is on it's way out.

Game developers seriously can't enjoy selling their games for almost nothing on Steam, can they?

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@banacheck

I'm sorry, I really don't understand your response. The PS3 definitely had a unique architecture to it, but we all saw how that panned out early in the console's life. Fewer games and it took Sony forever to catch up and start recouping their losses. Nowadays, especially with the upcoming consoles, the "stuff" inside your console is pretty much the exact same stuff inside a PC that you can build yourself. That was my point - I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing with me lol

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I tend to sympathize with you and I hate it when the other posters gang up on you and say hurtful things, but I need to respectfully disagree with what you said here. PC gaming is gaining momentum - more developers are totally going out their way to advertise their PC versions and get more people excited. PC games like Dota 2 and League of Legends are breaking records left and right - LoL has something like 30 million registered accounts, and Dota 2 had over 3 million unique players actually playing in matches on their servers last month. World of Warcraft - well, we don't even need to go there. They still have 7 million accounts, which is WAY down from the 12 million they had just a couple years ago. Diablo III sold over 12 million copies when it released, only on PC. Back in 2012 EA announced that it sold over 100 million copies of its PC The Sims series, from Sims 1 through Sims 3.

PC gaming isn't going anywhere, soon. There are tons of PC gamers out there - you just won't find many on a Nintendo forum or even IGN forums, as they tend to frequent places like Tom's and PC Gamer.

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shingi_70

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Not really about the Wii U but its intresting on how the other guys are taking ques from Nintendo. (though honestly its more of copying twitter/facebook).with taking it a bit further.(though I could be wrong.) The Xbox One is going from a traditional friends system to a Miiverse style twitter follower as well as each user having their own channel.

It's worth mentioning that there will be a new follow / follower mode when it comes to friends etc. Think twitter, and you get how this works. This basically means you can follow 1,000 players, and have unlimited followers, doing away with the 100 limit of the Xbox 360. A welcome relief for many.

As well as a less graphical version of Wara Wara plaza through a simple trending menu

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rallydefault

334. Posted:

@Sony_70

Miiverse is really a wonderful thing, and it's nice to see it being replicated on the other consoles (imitation is the sincerest form of admiration). I also like this because it's another step away from all this big social networking stuff that I hate so much. I'd be more than happy to buy an Xbone to use a social service entirely focused on the gaming community rather than tap into Twitter.

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shingi_70

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rallydefault wrote:

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Miiverse is really a wonderful thing, and it's nice to see it being replicated on the other consoles (imitation is the sincerest form of admiration). I also like this because it's another step away from all this big social networking stuff that I hate so much. I'd be more than happy to buy an Xbone to use a social service entirely focused on the gaming community rather than tap into Twitter.

I think the Xbox One plans to both offering its own Miiverse service while giving the option to plug into other networks. Its like how miiverse web lets you share to twitter.

They haven't given that many details on how its going to work yet. I'm guessing were getting that either next month or november.

-Every Gamer has there own channel where they can post their Video,Screenshots, and probably comments, as well as what games they've played, what they're doing or if their streaming over twitch.
-You can take other people's videos and add them to your channel.
-Every Game has its own channel and Game developers will probably have more options like Miiverse.
-If your content is popular enough it can be put on other channels.

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a509673/gamescom-2013-e...

I would say Miiverse has completely changed the way we look at games.

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SCAR392

336. Posted:

@rallydefault
The difference is, is that I generally know what I'm talking about, and people still disagree with me alot of the time. I admit in this case that I'm not quite certain.
Anyway, I just don't see how PC gaming can be a viable platform at all. I don't really see anything from any PC game that can't be done on a home console, at least at this point.
With Wii U, Xbox One, and even PS4, I just don't see how a PC can level up popularity wise(which sometimes matters more than taking full advantage of a more powerful machine) to more accepted home consoles.

If EA released their full The Sims game, or Spore on home consoles. They would make more money than just PC. I understand that the highest selling PC games do well, but I think they would still be doing better if they focused those PC games on consoles.

They usually release a spin-off type game of their PC games. Most people would just buy those games for home consoles if they could, rather than PC. PC is still relevant as a platform(not as much financially, IMO) in terms of capability, but not so much as the maximum potential audience.

EDIT: It's the same way I feel about Apple and their products, except in reverse. PC is a good machine, but it's not as popular, regardless. Devices like iPad and iPhone are popular, and still relatively powerful, but they never take advantage of the hardware, so I see no reason why anyone who has ever bought the first iPad would ever upgrade. You can still basically run every app ever created on the first iPad unless it has camera features. Developers are still stick catering to every iPad, because Apple released them too close together, as well as having an additional accessory for almost every standard piece of hardware, like SD, HDMI, etc.

iPad also doesn't run a standard and more capable OS like Mtn. Lion when it could, so the iPad has been artificially gimped.

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337. Posted:

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@rallydefaultAnyway, I just don't see how PC gaming can be a viable platform at all. I don't really see anything from any PC game that can't be done on a home console, at least at this point.

That's because cross platform games are often held back by the lowest common denominator.

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banacheck

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I don't care what any of you say these consoles my use custom PC/PC parts but the console is still built very differently from a PC. Which you cannot do yourself, like others proclaim.

the "stuff" inside your console is pretty much the exact same stuff inside a PC that you can build yourself.

Good luck in building your own PS4, You’ll be hard pressed to find any PC with GDDR5 plugged directly into the motherboard rather than sitting on the graphics card. This just isn’t how PCs works, which is my main point.

Fewer games and it took Sony forever to catch up and start recouping their losses.

IBM, Sony, and Toshiba jointly invested $400 million in developing the Cell processor, & thats before making the PS3 itself. Also the most expensive components inside the PS3, dropped in price dramatically from 2006 - 2009, over half price.

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KryptoKrunch

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The Wii U will be fine. Nintendo has three blockbusters from their top IPs coming out(Mario 3D World, WW HD, DK Tropical Freeze) this holiday season and Wonderful 101 is already out/coming out soon depending on which region. Not only that, the Wii U already has a promising 2014 with Smash bros., Kart 8 and Bayonetta 2 confirmed(X, Yarn Yoshi and SMT X FE may also be 2014). Things are looking up for the Wii U.

Although the Wii U probably won't be as successful as the Wii, it still doesn't mean it won't be a success. Did the PS3 sell as much as the PS2 or PS1? Nope. Was the PS3 a failure? Not at all.

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skywake

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banacheck wrote:

Good luck in building your own PS4, You’ll be hard pressed to find any PC with GDDR5 plugged directly into the motherboard rather than sitting on the graphics card. This just isn’t how PCs works, which is my main point.

I don't think you really understand why the PS4 using GDDR5 is an advantage if you think PCs are disadvantaged without it. You wouldn't want a PC with GDDR5 "plugged directly into the motherboard" because it would reduce performance for the types of tasks you usually rely on the CPU for. With a console it makes sense to compromise on the performance on those sort of tasks to reduce costs, yes compromise as in it makes it run slower, because the main goal is to improve graphics performance.

So you put the CPU and GPU on the same chip and then share graphics optimised memory. Makes all sorts of sense.... for a console...

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