Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

@Tsuchinoko Haha, well yeah, I wouldn't want somethin' like that!
@IceClimbers Those were some really great matches. I didn't expect anyone to beat him in a GF yet. I was a little surprised when he had a game taken by Seagull Joe, and that wasn't long ago.
@UGXwolf At this point, I'd like to assume everyone's lying, really. All of these "leaks" and whatnot are getting repetitive. On the other hand, I'd like to remain patient, but I've been craving a Nintendo Direct for weeks. I want neeewws (and new stuff to talk about).
Wait, how would they make the Ice Climbers function? I'd like to have 'em back, but I thought limitations prevented them from being in.

In all honesty, I think the team didn't want to invest more time into a character that was only in one game and only really known for being in smash. From what I have heard said about the Ice Climbers from Sakurai, it sounded like they could've got them to work but didn't want to invest the time in them.

Sorry if I'm wrong, but didn't Sakurai purposely cut Ice Climbers due to the newcomer Villager? Because I remember a glitch last year where if you play as Villager with high damage, the crowd chants Ice Climbers.

Uh, what? That glitch happened when you played as Dr. Mario, not Villager. And why would Sakurai cut Ice Climbers because of the Villager? That doesn't make any sense at all. They were cut because the 3DS couldn't handle them. And I'm sure (just a theory) that they wouldn't work on 8-player Smash either. If 8-player Smash can't handle Wii Fit Trainer's thumb, then I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be able to handle 16 Ice Climbers all at once.

What do you mean 8-player smash can't handle wii fit trainer's thumb?

If that is the case, then their thinking might have changed due to DLC and the ballot, just like with Lucas and pre-ballot requests. If they are at all possible then their chances increased with DLC. If they are really impossible or would take too much time to work on then even DLC wouldn't help them get in.

I would like to point out that I don't recall implying Ice Climbers could be added to the game in spite of technical difficulties and fairness issues. I do, however, believe it was--as it usually is with changes like these--a combination of many factors. The 3DS having trouble with them was the main issue, but I've heard nothing to imply it couldn't have been worked out, just that they didn't make the cut due to technical difficulties. I never believed, and still don't believe that Rosalina and Luma are all that much less complex than Ice Climbers. Less, sure. Not THAT much less. I just think the time constraints left them having to choose and Rosalina was higher priority.

Oh, so we're talking about Ice Climbers? All right. I'm a little confused on them because Sakurai never specifically stated that it was outright impossible, just that there were issues. So...was it something that maybe could've been done if they had more time to finish the game, or is it really impossible?

I doubt Sakurai would remove a character

I really like Rosalina personally. Way more than the Ice Climbers.

Actually, I like just about everyone more than the Ice Climbers.

The Galaxy games are classic, a visual delight and an absolute joy to play and I love Rosalina's inclusion.

Wii Fit Trainer is amazing. Ice Climbers isn't coming back until Smash NX.

@DarthNocturnal: rosalina is an overrated Peach recolor in the same sense that Luigi is an overrated Mario recolor. Unless you mean in Smash. In that case, Rosalina isn't even remotely similar to Peach aside from being a girl, wearing a dress, being light, and being from the Mario franchise.

At least we didn't get the original Rosalina. Which was more or less just Peach with a different hairstyle.

On the contrary, I'd say the final desing for Rosalina ended up being more of a different person with a peach-like hairstyle.

Which is kind of the opposite of her original design.

@DarthNocturnal: Wario was never a Mario recolor in the forst place. He was always a parody. Intentionally not at all similar. Luigi was originally Mario wearing green. It wasn't until Paper Mario that we ever really saw him as being any different from Mario in terms of personality, and that's the key. Luigi has personality. Mario kinda doesn't. Roaalina has personality. Peach, not really.

The story book in the first Galaxy did a good job of fleshing her out. And if you believe the theories then she looks similar to Peach due to her being her daughter, so that would make sense, at least.

@DarthNocturnal: She's been around since 2006? 2007? Against Luigi's 32+ years of existence? Of course she hasn't got the same amount of characterization, yet, but she still stands out as being very different from Peach.

It is funny how a lot of people make fun of Rosalina, but there's a huge push for Daisy, even though she's had no storyline. In just that picture book Rosalina has had more characterization that characters that have been in the Mario franchise two, three times longer.

I don't want daisy in smash. I want her in her own game. they could expand the kingdom of sarasaland so much more. A M&L or paper mario game set in that kingdom would be perfect. That's just IMO.