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61. Posted:

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Then you might want to remember what happened with the N64 and then with the GameCube, something that fanboys always seem forget.

Yeah I remeber those times.... good times, good times. :P

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And that is where the WiiU comes in place, as it was supposed to be the "other" option against the real big 2. But now there will be two trying to be the "other option" and Android already has thousands of developers on its side.

Oh dear lord.

When people talk about a "big X" in an industry they're not talking about companies that carbon copy one another. They're talking about a group of companies that combined, dominate a market.

What a company does is completely irrelevant. It's the scale that qualifies something as a "big" company.

Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and Apple are gaming's "big 4." They're all alternatives to one another, and combined they have the lion's share of the gaming hardware market. I have no idea what you smoke sometimes.

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63. Posted:

Not talking about companies, but about home consoles, which is where OUYA might compete with the WiiU (and the others too). If you want to talk about scale, today only PS3 and XBoX are selling well and with constant game library updates. I dont see apple there as any option and the Wii is dead. While MS and Sony might we working on their next generations, the only two solid "other" options are WiiU and now the android device.

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64. Posted:

Mandoble wrote:

Not talking about companies, but about home consoles, which is where OUYA might compete with the WiiU (and the others too). If you want to talk about scale, today only PS3 and XBoX are selling well and with constant game library updates. I dont see apple there as any option and the Wii is dead. While MS and Sony might we working on their next generations, the only two solid "other" options are WiiU and now the android device.

Meh.... more of less, its about the same. Companies' take time and effort into gaming at times.

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@Mandoble From the less-dedicated gamers' viewpoint, that is agreeable. However, keep in mind that unlike the OUYA console, the Wii U is as capable as the PS3 and the 360 (i.e. disc-printed games, meaty contents, etc.). Essentially, the Wii U's targeted audience is both less-dedicated and more-dedicated gamers thanks to its increased specs and high capacity discs (aka big triple-A games). The OUYA, on the other hand, will only be able to provide downloadable games akin to that of XBLA, PSN, and NintendoWare in part to the limited memory available.

So yes, the Wii U does has some competition between the OUYA, but if in some case the OUYA won many casual gamers over the Wii U, the Wii U can still stand up on its own (provided that Nintendo can win over 3rd parties and consumers in relation to the traditional games industry).

Last thing, if the Wii U vs. OUYA discussion is given from a casual player's point-of-view, the iDevices should be included.

Does this make sense?

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66. Posted:

If it's going to be a competitor, it'd better sell more than 40,000 units. At this stage it's not even clear if it will ever get MADE, let alone become successful.

That's what worries me about about reading comments from people who have pledged. A lot say something along the lines of, "Oh well, if it's not successful at least I'll have a cheap streaming box" - many people seem to be operating under the assumption that they will definitely get the console.

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67. Posted:

Mandoble wrote:

Not talking about companies, but about home consoles, which is where OUYA might compete with the WiiU (and the others too). If you want to talk about scale, today only PS3 and XBoX are selling well and with constant game library updates. I dont see apple there as any option and the Wii is dead. While MS and Sony might we working on their next generations, the only two solid "other" options are WiiU and now the android device.

So you don't understand what a "Big X" means.

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@LollipopChoSaw Hey, sent you a direct message. :)

On-topic: I'm starting to get more skeptical to Ouya for some reason, but there's no point in forming much of an opinion on it until it comes out.

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69. Posted:

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Last thing, if the Wii U vs. OUYA discussion is given from a casual player's point-of-view, the iDevices should be included.

Does this make sense?

For me, partially. iDevices are direct competitors of Vita and 3DS, but I dont see them competing to have a place in the livingroom connected to the TV. And about casuals, remember that most Wii users are these, and not that these know much about A, AA, AA+ or AAA games, and with the OUYA they will have far more power and posibilities than with the Wii, way cheaper and no need to go out to buy games, music, vids, etc. Also dont underestimate downloadable games, while Nintendo had this pretty restricted (sizewise), the rest have no limit, you may download >1GB games from PSN actually.

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70. Posted:

Mandoble wrote:

bobbiKat wrote:

Last thing, if the Wii U vs. OUYA discussion is given from a casual player's point-of-view, the iDevices should be included.

Does this make sense?

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For me, partially. iDevices are direct competitors of Vita and 3DS, but I dont see them competing to have a place in the livingroom connected to the TV. And about casuals, remember that most Wii users are these, and not that these know much about A, AA, AA+ or AAA games, and with the OUYA they will have far more power and posibilities than with the Wii, way cheaper and no need to go out to buy games, music, vids, etc. Also dont underestimate downloadable games, while Nintendo had this pretty restricted (sizewise), the rest have no limit, you may download >1GB games from PSN actually.

i dont REALLY care about titles that dev spend millions/thousands of dollars i care about gamplay

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71. Posted:

So you don't care about nintendo games.

WAT!

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72. Posted:

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So you don't care about nintendo games.

He isn't saying that he hates games with large budgets, he's just saying that he doesn't think that big budgets necessarily mean high-quality and vice versa. At least that's how I interpreted it.

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73. Posted:

Sony_70 wrote:

So you don't care about nintendo games.

What are you trying to say :P :D

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74. Posted:

Happy_Mask wrote:

I hear nothing about first party development(correct me if I'm wrong), and if it's 3rd party they're counting on

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This doesn't even have 'first' or 'third' party development. That's not how this works.

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75. Posted:

The only thing that can get me to buy this is great exclusives.

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76. Posted:

Happy_Mask wrote:

@AlexSays Exactly why I won't be purchasing it.

You won't be purchasing it because you can't categorize the developers by their party?

If it has plenty of developers, why does that even matter? Games are inherently better if they're made by the company that produced the platform?

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77. Posted:

Happy_Mask wrote:

okay, I think you just contradicted yourself with your questions

lmao what?

Very odd cookie you are.

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Mandoble

78. Posted:

If this gets thousands of indies working for it, for sure it will have many many games that will not be available for anything else. And these might be considered "first party games" or "exclusives".

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79. Posted:

Mandoble wrote:

If this gets thousands of indies working for it, for sure it will have many many games that will not be available for anything else. And these might be considered "first party games" or "exclusives".

Doubt there will be many exclusives. I bet you most of the games will also be available on iOS or PC.

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80. Posted:

Mandoble wrote:

If this gets thousands of indies working for it, for sure it will have many many games that will not be available for anything else. And these might be considered "first party games" or "exclusives".

Only people who don't understand what "first party games" actually means would consider the games you outlined there as "first party games."

That's twice you've misused a term or phrase in this thread alone. If you don't understand what a term or phrase means, then don't use it anyway, and then pretend that your personal definition of the term is legitimate.

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