Topic: Is your patience with Nintendo wearing thin?

@Sony_70
What about Wii U being on shelves for an entire year before anything else? If ANYONE plays video games of any sort, they're gonna see the Wii U. It's not that hard to realize that every system has the 2nd screen utilization happening.

That's especially why having the GamePad included guarantees use for every single piece of software, and that's important. If Nintendo wasn't "forcing" the GamePad onto consumers, neither would Sony or Microsoft.

It's just like the motion controls of the Wii with motion controls. Microsoft and Sony want to be relevant in Nintendo's market, so they have no choice but to advertise that their systems do dual screen gaming.

@Scar392
WiiU been on shelves for a year b/c no one wants it xD! If it was good it wouldn't been on them shelves because everyone bought them all.

Not everyone buys consoles as soon as they come out. Having an actual product available on the shelf is probably more effective than you think.

Just imagine somone who never goes on the internet for video gane news(like us) and realizes that Wii U is the newest system available and plans on buying one for Christmas.

My point is that being on a shelf doesn't necessarily mean no one cares. Before I would use the internet on a consistent basis, magazines and in store availability was key. Even just as far ago as 6th gen.

There are tons of 3DS and 2DS systems on the shelf of every store that sells them. Those are selling, right? They meet the demand by putting tons of them on the shelf. Also, Wii U systems are generally pretty low on stock in my area to begin with, so the whole shelf thing doesn't even make sense where I live, because I know some people are buying them.

Good post. I have 20 retail titles and then about four eShop games. THere's at least ten more coming out in the next six months that I want. After that, I might just quit buying games for a while.

With that said, you would think that with $11 billion in cash, they could get more of their best selling titles out on time/in time for the holiday season. It's no big deal for me- I can wait another six months for Mario Kart, Smash Bros. etc. But it's rather sad for Nintendo b/c others will not.

http://kotaku.com/child-predators-were-using-nintendos-swapno...

Very difficult to defend their decisions indeed OP, bravo to you!

I don't like it either that Nintendo has become almost an exclusively kid-oriented company. But it's not really their fault.

Nintendo has a lot of money but they're not an electronics behemoth like Sony or a software giant like Microsoft. They didn't have the resources to instantly shift over to an infrastructure which demands really big teams of developers, and I'm sure Sony and Microsoft did their part to shut Nintendo out.

So they've been forced to become the niche console, the kid's console, the "different" console to stand out.

I can't defend them for hoarding their games, though, or leaving a first person shooter like Metroid Prime on the sidelines (hint to Nintendo: Metroid Prime was awesome, and it would be incredible in 1080p with high-res textures.) The VC is criminally under-supported, too, and the lack of a unified account system is ridiculous.

I think that ultimately Nintendo will merge into one console, a home/portable thing with two screens that connects to your TV wirelessly via an HDMI device. Between their home console and portable console they have enough great game developers to keep people buying their games throughout the year. That way, they wouldn't have to spread themselves so thin, and concentrate on marketing one message and one service.

It's not that nintendo is kids oriented-only, it's just that kids are, were and will always be their best public. They better protect them and keep their parents happy! Back then when you played their excellent games and became their fan, you were a kid too!

What happens when they let go and relax a little?

Horrible people abuse their systems to damage their best public.

Seriously, that's why we can't have nice things. As evidenced by nintendo's decision to terminate the services.

Ninty has billions in shares, bonds and cash tho.

Bayonetta 2 is the reason I don't think they're "kid-exclusive".

One game that is several months away?

Ya ok. That's solid evidence.

Darksiders 2, Mass Effect 3 and Resident Evil: Revelations U were all on Wii U and they weren't kiddy games. I don't even care if a game is kiddy or "mature". I just care if a game is good.
I'm gonna say that again. I ONLY CARE IF A GAME IS BETTER OR NOT.

I also gotta tell you something.
I've been reading your comments in articles and threads and YOU give off this incredibly negative vibe in everything you say. I'm not saying that you gotta be "YEAH! Nintendo rocks!" or anything like that. I'm just saying that nearly all of your comments about Wii U or Nintendo in general is just...NEGATIVE. There's a difference between saying something like, "I know that Nintendo has a problem with the Wii U and lets have a good discussion about it." You, on the other hand, appear like you're bitter about anything related to the Wii U at all.
If you don't like the console, thats fine. Thats your opinion.
I'm just saying look in the mirror, pal. Your comments can be really negative, smart-mouth, and bitter.
Look at how you just responded to a Mod on this site, @ScroogeMcLz. Do you feel good when you make a smart-mouth comment? Do you feel good when you say stuff like that? If so... THAT'S SAD.
And lastly... I am not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm doing this in a nice way.

I don't think Wii U is "kiddie". It's still getting Watch_Dogs, AC4, CoD, etc.

If you only considering Nintendo's games, then yes, most of them are suited for kids or everyone, but there are still current 3rd party games being released. Ghosts just came out yesterday and the Wii U version is just as relevant as any other.

I'm just playing devil's advocate most of the time, since if no one voiced a dissenting opinion, most of these discussions would be horribly boring and one-sided (i.e. Nintendo rules! They can do no wrong! etc....). There also seems to be a lack of logic used by many people here, and they don't think critically about topics before chiming in. Just because the headline says 'Nintendo sales up 800%', it doesn't make me jump up and down. How many actual systems were sold? Are these numbers part of a trend or a one off? Are these numbers sustainable?

Also, I'm not going to alter my response to someone based on their position on a website. If a moderator on a website says something I don't agree with, I would respond the same way as I would anyone else. Do you think being a moderator is some noble position that requires special treatment or respect? They are no different then anyone else posting here.

@FutureAlphaMale I brought up your comment with the Mod, @ScroogeMcLz because it was a good example of how smart-mouth your comments can be at times. I don't think a Moderator deserves special treatment but they are HUMAN BEINGS. Treat others like you wanna be treated.
How would you like it if others to start giving you smart-mouth comments at stuff you say?
I can do that.
But you claim that you're "playing devil's advocate most of the time" so I guess that gives you a right to be the opposite/negative guy, huh?

I think it's a matter of image.
His combo of selfie avatar + literally having "FutureAlphaMale" right under it (is that from Monster Hunter?) can make it seem like he wants to be a "smart-mouth".
The wrong presentation can make your brain automatically dislike something.

But then again, this is not a thread to talk about this, is it?

I'd like to see some examples of these supposed blinded fanboys who believe Nintendo can do no wrong. Just because I'm a fan of the company doesn't mean I'm blind to facts or reason. I honestly see more negative people like you on here compared to ignorant fans.

Ummm...yeah. That's the definition of 'devil's advocate'.

And plenty of people here give me smart mouth comments (like I just did above), and it's all in good fun as far as I'm concerned. As long as nobody is personally insulting somebody, what is the problem? If you don't like what I say or disagree with me, no problem! Lets debate it, or you can choose to ignore it.

No reason to take things so personally!

You'll see an even mix of both if you visit even a single comment section of a news article on this site.

But um...I should probably stay out of this discussion. -_-;

I'm headed to the food thread. I'm in the mood to talk about pie.

This is neither the time or the place for this discussion, but any forum discussion topic that is believed to be 'anti-Nintendo' here is filled with dozens of people who defend Nintendo, often blindly, while there is a much smaller group who criticize them. If it wasn't for this latter group providing a differing viewpoint, there would be nothing interesting being discussed. Name me one successful talk show that doesn't feature varying points of view? Same thing for online forums.

That's all I haven't say on this issue! Lets move on.

@FutureAlphaMale: Its not so much the position of someone its how you word things. I have to agree that when you post you tend to post with snide remarks. No one is saying you have to be upbeat and love Nintendo but you dont have to be rude or unpleasant cause someone doesn't agree with you.