Topic: For Everything but Wii U

Most of those PSOne preorders would be filled by our good old mate Mr Scroogey McEbay

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CN was basically the PS3 of 6th gen, and PS3 was the N64 of 7th gen. It flip flops alot, but I think it's pretty easy to point out similarities on how well a console is fairing in comparison to another from a different generation.

The PS3 was delayed several times released a year after the Xbox360, it was never going to win the console war of that gen. But the PS3 still went on to out sell the Xbox360, no other console has done that in history, hardly a flop my friend, and the way its looking the PS4 is another PS2.

It still hasn't beaten the Wii, though, and of course that has never happened in history, because the release of the Xbox 360 and PS3 can only happen once

Still though, I think Wii U will fair better than Wii did with the "core" gamer, while still retaining "casuals" that played the Wii.

People could just as easily say Wii U will be the next SNES. There are more success stories around than just the PS2, but they do have their similarities.
The DS is the the post PS2 success, and I honestly have no clue why anyone would buy such dated systems like PS2, 1, DS, or even Xbox 360 or PS3 at this point with new things right around the corner.
It just makes sense to buy the better products within a brand if they're available.

I find the general lack of faith in Wii U to be more than a little concerning. The sheer number of developers who turned away, as well as how quickly they did (not even a full year past release), speaks volumes about Nintendo's perception in the industry among third parties. This was supposed to be the Nintendo console where, yes, you could get all those cool third party multiplats in addition to classic Nintendo favorites. Instead, the opposite has proven true, and the third-party situation for Wii U is arguably worse at this point than it ever was with the Wii. Has any other console been shunned so quickly and heavily in the past?

At this point, I think the Wii U may be better off as a 90% Nintendo console with a small side of indie content from the eShop. I don't think I'll ever regret buying a Wii U, but it's looking increasingly likely that I'll end up buying one of the other two systems to complement it - the first time I've ever had more than one console for a generation.

@krisco
You can't really judge Wii U in comparison to something that's not out, though.
Alot of the 3rd parties have shown pretty poor support(EA '12 is '13 FIFA and Madden), despite having an arguably strong install base with hardly any games on the shelf, yet.
I can't even think of any companies right now that have ditched the Wii U, because of power issues or adoption rate(that's what they say, but that reason is becoming more and more void over time). It may sound bad to some that it didn't get Dead Island or FarCry, but there already systems out there for those games, and if you care enough, you already have the system for those games.

You can't release 8th gen multiplats without every 8th gen console being available(hence the term multiplat). There's no reason to release 3rd games on Wii U right now, because there are other systems that aren't out yet.
Nintendo knows it won't get 3rd party games without PS4 and Xbox One also being available.

Uh...what "data" are you using for this prediction?

@Krisko You will just have to buy AC4 & Watch Dogs for the WiiU and not your Wii

Observation. PS2 was the weakest console, yet it still had more support. I'm willing to bet the graphic difference between Wii U and Xbox One isn't even as apparent as it was when comparing the PS2 to the GCN or Xbox, too, so it still has more going for it content wise in that sense.

You're just gonna have to believe him bro

One day all of these countless devs that refuse to support the console are going to change their minds, count on it.

When people talk about how the PS2 was weaker than the GCN they seem to forgot that the PS2 supported DVDs while the GCN had a propietary format with much less capacity.... yes it was not as bad as with the N64 where the uses of cartridges neutralized any power advantage it could have but still in an era where developers like square enjoyed filling their games with pre rendered cutscenes the smaller capacity of GCN discs was an issue......

And people who talk about the difference in power of the Wii U vs. PS4/Xbone would not be as bad as that of the Wii vs. PS3/360 that's right... but the issue is not only power but ease of porting... PS4,Xbox One and PC use the same architecture so the cost of porting a game from one two the other two is much cheaper than porting to the Wii U which is totally different architecture.... that's why I doubt Wii U will get significant third party support

The PS2 came out nearly one year before the GameCube and Xbox. If it was weaker, that was the reason. But I distinctly remember the insatiable demand for the PS2 (much of it due to having a DVD player) that none of the other manufacturers came close to having. Sony practically won before the PS2 even came out...such was its popularity.

I still think the Wii U will be the real winner in this generation of consoles. I can definitely see two things happening:
1) This holiday both the Xbox and PS4 will end up being sold out long before Christmas, and Nintendo will have december sales all to itself--especially since consoles at launch never deliver what was promised. There will be enough skepticism on the internet to even out all consoles by year's end.
2) since PS4/Xbox/PC all use the same x86 architecture, 3rd party games will be exactly the same, giving less incentive to get games on different systems. In fact, what's the point of a PC gamer buying an Xbox/PS4 when the exact same games will be cheaper on STEAM? If the same game is on PC, might as well get it on PC. This is where Xbox and PS4 will fail this time around. Nintendo has the potential to really clean up...unless they screw up.

Well if that is the case, then maybe Nintendo should start paying to have these games. They want there console to be successful, then they need the games. 1st party games are all well and good but they need to confidence of the 3rd parties, to show that they can compete.

Another reason is because Nintendo have brought out a console that is the equivalent power to PS360, and consoles which are already established.

I believe that 3rd parties will start appreciating the Wii U, but its a matter of time, and i think that may not be until next year, so hopefully some of the big games coming out for Xbox and PS next year, will also come to us.... Optimist

After coming out of a loveless marriage with the Xbox 360, I can say that I will only miss some of the third party titles that are skipping the console. Unfortunately, many third party games seem to be quite generic these days - typically COD / Gears clones. PS4 and Xbone may have lots of third party titles, but they only amount to about 300 different shades of gray and brown. Don't get me wrong though, there are some titles I really wish were on the Wii U (Lords of Shadow 2 and Killer is Dead, for example) , but I much prefer the upcoming Wii U stuff to many third party games coming up.

Personally, I think the priority should be on trying to get hold of more indie third party developers. Whilst the big companies are 'playing it safe', loads of indie developers are coming up with some cracking stuff. If Nintendo got a hold of these guys to start producing fun games for their console, perhaps even exclusively, that would be ace. Titles such as 'A Hat in Time', 'Shovel Knight', 'Shadows of the Eternals', etc are among my most anticipated games because they look a tonne of fun to play.