That has to be the biggest problem I had for Nintendo's E3 this year. There was no surprises, we already knew all that was coming. I was really hoping they would come out with a new game (either sequel or new IP) that we weren't expecting. I guess it just wasn't Nintendo's year this time...

To everyone saying "We already knew that...," Nintendo knows this. E3 was meant to send these messages out to the world. Not everyone is constantly roaming the forums or Nintendo fan-sites looking at the latest information. At least they didn't do the Sunday Nintendo Direct all over again. And even so, we really only heard what titles were coming to Wii U/3DS. We didn't have any information beyond that. We didn't know that NSBM2 was going to be all about the Coins. We didn't know about Luigi's special flashlight. We didn't know about Nintendo Land, Mass Effect 3, Trine 2, or even LEGO City Undercover's story concept. WE KNEW TITLES.

What Nintendo did at E3 with their limited time was try to give us as much information as possible on the upcoming games and hardware.

But no. All you guys give a crud about is a new Zelda or a crossover that doesn't exist.

[/div] You do have a big point there. Well put I must say!

But everything points to it failing with Cnn thinking the wii u Warsaw wii add on and most mainstream media not getting it.

again, both a valid point and lolmainstreammedia shakes head

@kyuubikid213: Who is going to actually going to drop the cash to buy the Wii U at first? Us, the people "that already knew it" and peruse video game forums and sites all the time or the people throughout the world that cannot even figure out that the Wii U is a new console instead of Wii accessory? Nintendo Land, dancing, half-ass fitness, and singing games are not going to push a new system and not going to push mom and pop casual to rush out and drop $300 plus on a new system.

The tech heads who just game on the PC (if at all) but must own every piece of technology ever released?

Exactly, along with non PC gamer early adopters, the super duper Nintendo fans, and us 20-40 somethings living in nostalgia Nintendoland. I just think overall Nintendo missed a really big opportunity to impress this "must have it now" crowd.

I don't think tech heads will be buying a ipad taped to a a xbox when Windows 8 is hitting along with ios 6, windows phone Apollo, and aneroid jelly. Bean.

I'll agree with you on that, but we were just given more information on the titles we already knew were coming out. What I wanted was this information but also something new to see, Wii U did this... somewhat, but it was nothing that was truly stellar.

Yes, there's Pikmin, but I'm not interested in that. There's ZombiU... I'm not interested in generic zombie shooters. There's Assassin's Creed III, it looks amazing but I'm still not entirely sold. There's NintendoLand, I don't have many friends who would play this and would be rather pointless for me anyway. The rest were all passes.

The 3DS has some really good looking titles coming out. Castlevania, NSMB2, Epic Mickey, Batman 2, Luigi's Mansion, Paper Mario etc. etc. the problem is, we already knew about these titles except for a few missing details. There was nothing that was "new" announced at these showcases.

Nintendo Land, Dancing & Singing games, and Fitness games weren't the only games shown off at all. There are more "hardcore" titles such as ZombiU, Mass Effect 3, Trine 2, Batman Arkham City, and Pikmin. Besides, Nintendo Land, Dancing & singing games, and Fitness games are the reasons moms buy systems nowadays. Especially with all of the "Our nation's obesity... Childhood obesity... Overweight teens..." articles and news stories everywhere. As for pop casual, we've got NSMBU and the like.

Another thing I feel I have to mention is this:
Everything shown at E3 was NOT the entire library of Wii U/3DS games.

But were the mom's watching E3? Yeah those games are here to stay but do we really need to see these in a presentation mainly viewed by the enthusiastic gamer? I think Nintendo missed the opportunity to make a big splash. You were happy with the presentation, that is great! I was underwhelmed though I am looking forward Zombie U.

@Ryno

Even if ZombiU doesn't support Wii Pointer controls? It better!
And man, i really wish you'd try out Pikmin 2 for the Wii to get a taste of how brilliant the franchise is. I was skeptical and not so interested before i fired Pikmin NPC up...Hell i left it sealed fro a good 4 months, and boy was i suprised at how clever, fun and addictive it was. And where's the NSMBWii U lovin? I know I know, it's another sequal in the NSMB series which is a let down considering it's a complete recycled dejavu donatello dookie fest but what has me extremely excited about aside from the HD, True widescreen and gorgeous backdrops would be the fact that it's a 2D Mario title that's launching with the console. How awesome is that? It's going to be like the NES & SNES all over again, except 1 million times less awesome considering the 2000's suck harder than hell.. ;p

NSMBWii U, Pikmin 3, Nintendo Land(looks awesome!) and ZombiU will be Launch title buys for me, with Rayman Legends and Game & Wario next in line.

But were the mom's watching E3? Yeah those games are here to stay but do we really need to see these in a presentation mainly viewed by the enthusiastic gamer?

Precisely. No one but the enthusiastic gamer actually watches E3 except for a maybe a few "casual" gamers here and there. E3, in my opinion, isn't meant for the singing, dancing and crappy party games. I want to see some really amazing games like ZombiU, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Assassin's Creed etc. I don't want to see some idiots doing the jiggy on stage.

I just want games, not party titles... sheesh.

You do realize half the people at the actucal press confrnce were from non gaming media, people from the company, and buyers from various retailers.

E3 isn't for you. Why do you think a lot of the headlines are talking about freaking xbox music, wii fit, and smartglass instead of halo, pikmin, and the last of us.

If Nintendo didn't show those more "casual-gamer" titles, then they would have lost the faith that many families (especially THOSE moms) have in them. Nintendo has lately been known as a kiddy/family-friendly company. If they only showed games that appealed to US, there would be a chance that they would lose sales that appealed to THEM. By showing games that everyone wants to play, Nintendo feels as though they succeeded in their endeavor to make the Wii U "Together. Better."

I'm glad to hear you are at least looking forward to one title. And besides, these games aren't the only ones that will ever come out on Wii U, they are just our first glimpse. And we don't even know if there will be more over the coming months between now and the launch.

Also the Wii U proved that it didn't offer anything revolutionary as far as Dance titles go, the Kinect did it better...But in 30 frames per second.
But oh wait! You can use the Wii GamePad screen to read lyrics, and you can even pass it around to your friends! Durp!

Kinect is King when it comes to dancing by the looks of things.
And yes, Nintendo were bogus bafoons for even showcasing Just Dance, but they've done it for the past 2 or 3 years so it's no real big suprise. I guess they figure it mixes things up a bit.

@Sony_70 Obviously E3 has changed because I knew it as gamings best conference for the year with the best place to reveal new hot games to the world. Now all I see is party titles rather than any actual games that look interesting...

Either I'm losing it or the world of gaming is changing.

@Wave: I think Zombie U is going to mainly use the Wii U Controller Pad with inventory control and holding the tablet screen up to the TV to discover things or look through a gun site. So there will be some of that type of immersion that you will hopefully come to love like the pointer control.

OK, up until this very second I have not been excited about another Mario game. But, I am going to turn the frown upside down and remember how excited I was to play Super Mario World for the SNES around launch and hope some of that same magic comes back. Besides, I was definitely going to get that game anyway since my wife loves New Super Mario Bros. Wii and she has been asking for a sequel.

So I will get NSMBU and Zombie U at launch. Well, as of this moment anyway. As for Pikmin, I suppose there is time for my view to change. I am not a minigame fan so unless Nintendoland is a pack-in game, I am skipping that one.

I guess I am just down on modern gaming overall. If I am gaming in short bursts I will choose a newer game mainly for saving purposes but If I got some time set aside I will go retro.