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Even with Quantum Break I was talking about the gameplay when it comes to things like story choice and the such. Remember gameplay doesn't just fall on simple measures. Its too bad your going to miss out on Gameplay because you refuse to play games that won't support a Niche control method. When Nintendo decided to make the gamepad the focus of the system I knew Motion controls were deader than dead.

"First and foremost, it's a game. It's a big, cinematic, story driven action adventure. In many ways, we're taking everything we've learned from previous games and raising the bar much higher.

At the same time, almost as a feature of the game, it is an entertainment experience, and with that it's a fusion of a game and a live action show. So...once again, like with Alan Wake, we're using episodic TV series-esque basing for the storytelling, but it still ships on one disc, everything, both the game and the show.

And the idea is...they're meant to be consumed together, and the idea is that you first play through an act of the game, and then you get to watch an episode of the show. And so they're...kind of, acts of the game are inter-weaved with the episodes of the show. And what we have there kind of as a connecting tissue is that we have these moments of choice that are related to the fiction of time powers, and the antagonist, Paul Serene (sp?) who has the most powerful time powers of all. He has this, ability, this...junction ability, where he can see glimpses of different futures, of different timelines.

And actually in these junction moments, it's always like...a dynamic, player created cliffhanger at the end of each act of the game. You get to play the bad guy, you get to explore these glimpses and visions of two different futures at each junction point, and you make a choice which future comes to be. And with that, we shift to an episode of the show, and immediately there at the beginning of each episode, the first scene already clearly shows you alternate content depending on which choice you make.

And it works both ways, so very much, kind of, what you have in the game and what you do in the game reflects your custom experience of the show, but then again when you watch an episode of the show, you see things, learn things, that are clues for you when you go back to the next act of the game and play it through, with those clues you can find certain things and unlock further material."

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SCAR392

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No one was really naysaying the other systems, though. The only thing I was questioning when it came to the PS4 was whether Sony would be able to support it financially. The whole Dreamcast "death" scenario that people were claiming would happen to the Wii U is actually alot more relevant to Sony's business, so it doesn't make sense from that point of view.

The main argument was that Wii U was horrible, even without any current details about any other system that have now become available. People were naysaying Wii U before any of the other systems, so I don't exactly see how a similar occurrence wouldn't be warrant a year later for other systems.

In the end, we're still better off waiting and seeing what happens in the long run. No one ever claimed success for the Wii U, yet people did for Xbox One and PS4. It's all about perspective. From alot of peoples' perspectives, the other systems wereas likely to be as "doomed" based on other perspectives as well.

It's a catch-22, because the Wii U would be better off right now if people had bought it instead of questioning it(which isn't expected), but since they doubted it, their opinion leaned more towards another system. There's no hard feeling here, because I personally never doubted Xbox One or PS4 to the point of commercial failure, even though Wii U is my choice system.

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@Waveboy - Sucks to be you, I guess. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be over here, enjoying all the fun and creative games I'm not turning a complete and utter blind eye towards.

Yeah it must suck to be me, missing out on 2 superficial consoles that are whipping out the same old sh** all over again with a typical next gen face lift. how exciting. how long have you been gaming for? I guess it hasn't hit the stale point for you yet. And please point me in the direction of the creative PS4 & one games, because I'm just not seeing it. Video games these days outside of nintendo for the most part are so bloody overrated it's sickening.

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Knack
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Everybody goes to the rapture
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Crimson Dragon
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Max and the cursed brotherhood
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CountWavula wrote:

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@Waveboy - Sucks to be you, I guess. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be over here, enjoying all the fun and creative games I'm not turning a complete and utter blind eye towards.

Yeah it must suck to be me, missing out on 2 superficial consoles that are whipping out the same old sh** all over again with a typical next gen face lift. how exciting. how long have you been gaming for? I guess it hasn't hit the stale point for you yet. And please point me in the direction of the creative PS4 & one games, because I'm just not seeing it. Video games these days outside of nintendo for the most part are so bloody overrated it's sickening.

What you just described is nothing more than "Being Jaded". That's nothing to be proud of.

And I don't even need to point to PS4/XO games. The PS3 and 360 had more than enough of those, contrary to popular belief, and there will always be plenty on the PC. The problem is you look for big changes, something of which has always been rare, even in those "glory days" you always go on about. Game makers have always been taking the ideas that came before it and giving a new spin to things, that's never changed, yet you seem to think it's a recent trend. (I would be more than happy to list a bunch if you're actually interested, but I have no intention of just throwing them into empty space)

And what's infuriating is that you don't put in the honest effort to find games that would appeal to you - you couldn't of, unless your tastes truly do defy statistics - yet you complain that there's nothing out there. If you want something, you gotta go out and find it. You're on the internet, just go through lists of games, keep a close eye on gaming news outside this site, try looking on more obscure sites if you have to. Surely you'll find some stuff you'll like. It's time consuming, yes, but it's more than worth it.

And the key is actually keeping an open mind, you know? There's no point in being cynical, because all cynicism does is form self-fulfilling prophecies.

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Honestly, I'd probably scrounge up some cash'ola if Rare made a traditional Banjo-Kazooie.

The only games I would want from Xbox One are:
Banjo-Kazooie
Maybe Halo and Gears of War
Lost Odyssey II or something
Xbox One Paint(like Art Academy)aka: Microsoft Panit for Xbox One, except better

Also, I'd want Xbox One to run Windows Store stuff and be able to run PC programs if I really want it to. Lastly, Xbox 360 BC. They already saud it was possible after saying it was impossible, so...

If Microsoft can caputure the way I remember Windows '95(modernized, obviously), I'd probably do whatever I could to get one, but that's not the case this far.

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CountWavula wrote:

Yeah it must suck to be me, missing out on 2 superficial consoles that are whipping out the same old sh** all over again with a typical next gen face lift. how exciting. how long have you been gaming for? I guess it hasn't hit the stale point for you yet. And please point me in the direction of the creative PS4 & one games, because I'm just not seeing it. Video games these days outside of nintendo for the most part are so bloody overrated it's sickening.

I hope you aren't trying to imply Nintendo doesn't rehash when they are just as guilty of doing such tactics.

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WaveWarlock

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CanisWolfred wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

@Waveboy - Sucks to be you, I guess. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be over here, enjoying all the fun and creative games I'm not turning a complete and utter blind eye towards.

Yeah it must suck to be me, missing out on 2 superficial consoles that are whipping out the same old sh** all over again with a typical next gen face lift. how exciting. how long have you been gaming for? I guess it hasn't hit the stale point for you yet. And please point me in the direction of the creative PS4 & one games, because I'm just not seeing it. Video games these days outside of nintendo for the most part are so bloody overrated it's sickening.

What you just described is nothing more than "Being Jaded". That's nothing to be proud of.

And I don't even need to point to PS4/XO games. The PS3 and 360 had more than enough of those, contrary to popular belief, and there will always be plenty on the PC. The problem is you look for big changes, something of which has always been rare, even in those "glory days" you always go on about. Game makers have always been taking the ideas that came before it and giving a new spin to things, that's never changed, yet you seem to think it's a recent trend. (I would be more than happy to list a bunch if you're actually interested, but I have no intention of just throwing them into empty space)

And what's infuriating is that you don't put in the honest effort to find games that would appeal to you - you couldn't of, unless your tastes truly do defy statistics - yet you complain that there's nothing out there. If you want something, you gotta go out and find it. You're on the internet, just go through lists of games, keep a close eye on gaming news outside this site, try looking on more obscure sites if you have to. Surely you'll find some stuff you'll like. It's time consuming, yes, but it's more than worth it.

And the key is actually keeping an open mind, you know? There's no point in being cynical, because all cynicism does is form self-fulfilling prophecies.

You are right about one thing, i have become pretty jaded, it's quite obvious for anybody who's skimmed through the mountains of negative posts i've made recently that are Sony and MS related. I was the exact same once The Wii U was revealed, with it's underwhelming new controller and lack of groundbreaking(spiraled in a completely different direction which seemed almost half baked) innovation that the Wii(A console that i'm madly in love with as some of you guys already know. Shows how jaded i am huh?....A console that you could say is new and aint part of the golden age) already had at it's disposal. I've also owned the XBOX 360 and PS3, but i never gave either a fair shake, but based on what i have played like Uncharted 1 & 2(didn't complete either), Dead Space, Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty, Ninja Gaiden 2, Bioshock and several others? I wasn't happy, i wasn't having a good time since these titles were tailored towards a control scheme that i personally feel is an utter step backwards compared to the wii remote/pointer controls. I probably would of been content if some of these games were released on the PS2, most notably dead space, but another generation of doing the same thing with a new lick of paint? hardly exciting imo.

I don't care how great many of these so called games are at the core(uncharted, dead space ect), if it's utising twin stick controls.. I dont find it enjoyable, that's just me. Heck, i didn't find it that enjoyable during the gamecube/PS2 era either. I'm simply put not a fan of 3rd or 1st person experiences if they're built around that control scheme. I'll never understand gamers who prefer to twiddle their thumbs on a couple of stupid clunky sticks that crave for the most realistic visuals and highest resolutions. Wouldn't you rather feel...like you know, you're actually pointing a gun for ex? makes sense right. wrap your head around that one. as long as the option to have both control schemes is THERE for certain types of games i have no problem, but looking at the PS4 library, there is no 2nd option....The move controller appears to be tossed to the side with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions by these idiotic developers who for some insane reason still think that dual analog is the way to fly.

But yup, I'm no longer a big fan of the majority of '3D' titles that boast traditional 'twin stick' controls, again when it comes to 3rd and person based experiences. That's not taking things forward, it's just taking things back to 1997. ;) Personally, i'm more straight up 'd-pad' NES/SNES oldschool or modern traditional merged with motion controls, there's no real in between for me anymore outside of maybe 3D Mario platformers.

I'm over it, regardless if the visuals get a supreme make over. 'The Order' most likely won't be getting pointer controls, same deal goes for Quantom Break and many of these other hype train releases. I feel like Nintendo slightly sold out this generation to the 'twin stickers' to get a piece of that 360 pie, but at least the wii remote is still supported as an alternate control scheme.

BTW, name ONE franchise that felt simular to Super Mario, Castlevania and Mega Man(just a few examples) prior to their release. There was NOTHING. I mean here's not much to borrow from when you're just dealing with the Atari 2600(for ex) :P so of course these idea's, the way these games control, feel and play are going to be completely new & fresh. I don't expect to see brand spanking new ideas outside of hardware innovation, it's been almost 30 years since the release of the NES for crying out loud. I feel like i've seen it all 'traditionally controlled' that is. Hardware innovation is the real innovation pusher these days, it's just too bloody difficult for developers to create a fully original traditionally controlled 2D platformer for ex without taking elements from classic popular franchises. There's only so much you can do, especially when there's thousands of platformers already available.

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So nice he posted it twice!

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WaveWarlock

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EdJericho wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

Yeah it must suck to be me, missing out on 2 superficial consoles that are whipping out the same old sh** all over again with a typical next gen face lift. how exciting. how long have you been gaming for? I guess it hasn't hit the stale point for you yet. And please point me in the direction of the creative PS4 & one games, because I'm just not seeing it. Video games these days outside of nintendo for the most part are so bloody overrated it's sickening.

I hope you aren't trying to imply Nintendo doesn't rehash when they are just as guilty of doing such tactics.

Nintendo theses days is a mixed bag in this area, they went overboard and rehashed the hell out of the NSMB. series(Here's hoping NSMB.U is the final entry) as everybody knows. but i have to give them props for pushing hardware innovation and trying to create new experiences for the player.Heck, konami and Capcom as far as i'm concerned are almost dead, they've sold out hardcore....I find myself playing nintendo games 90% of the time, 3rd party support is nowhere near as amazing as it used to be. I'm getting bitter with where the industry is heading with many of these flashy hollywoodized unchallenging visual-spectacle interactive movies. :P

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WaveWarlock

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And what do you have to say about all of this wonderful Sony & MS hootenanny Master MAB? :*

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MAB

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@Wavesta All I know is that the cash I save not buying a PSBOX41 will be better used on more important things like food, alcohol and WiiU... Maybe some 3DS but that's not looking too good either.

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The truth of the matter, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are ALL guilty of rehashing franchises one too many times. And there ARE indeed some spectacular games on PS3/360 that Nintendo-only people missed out on last generation. Heck, there are some awesome PC exclusives that ALL console people have been missing out on for the past 30ish years!

As per this individual topic, I got to play the Xbox One at my friend's house the other night. It is remarkably similar to the 360 in terms of its UI and functions, with the addition of the ability to internally record, edit, and post game footage. The Kinect is improved, though the voice recognition success percentage was about 50/50, even when using the correct commands. If the game recording/social media/TV stuff is a must-have for you, then by all means, get out there and buy an Xbox One! You'll love it! If you want a new gaming machine and don't really care about the TV/recording stuff, you're going to have a 500-dollar doorstop for the next few months until some better games come out for it.

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I'm surprised no ones made a thread about the XboxOne failure rates,

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MAB

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I'm surprised no ones made a thread about the XboxOne failure rates,

Nobody is following the XBone enough to really care what it is doing... It got no friends ;)

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MadAussieBloke wrote:

banacheck wrote:

I'm surprised no ones made a thread about the XboxOne failure rates,

Nobody is following the XBone enough to really care what it is doing... It got no friends ;)

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The same can be said about the PS4....Looks at last post....."4 days ago" ;)
People are just trying to convince themselves that these 2 incredibly familiar consoles are the Domino's pizza-awesome sauce. But deep down inside......They're hurting, secretly craving that ooey & gooey 'save that princess for the millionth time' nintendoy' goodness. ;) I'm also hurting right now, for selling my Sega Genesis model 1 months ago. Now me needs to get another, cause i'm currently having some crazy sega nostalgia. The good ol' days of watching the mega man cartoon on tv, whith a crazy case of chicken pocks and playing Eternal Champions on the mega drive. :*
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MadAussieVader lives to drain the life force of beer, destroy meat pies, dodge hard work and maximize leisure... WE WILL DO IT TOMORROW... MAYBE THE DAY AFTER... I MIGHT GET AROUND TO THAT NEXT WEEK... NAH SCREW IT ;)

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Hey guys! Just got back from a harrowing trip to Walmart - I got an Xbox One! The store received about 35 of them and were giving out wrist bands to those lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time before their "Black Friday (Thursday)" stuff started at 6PM.

Anyways, I just wanted to post my impressions of the UI in case anyone is interested. This is coming from the perspective of someone who mostly considers himself a PC gamer, but also owns a Wii U.

The UI is pretty cool, and the Kinect makes navigation really fun. I haven't had much trouble with the voice commands at all - I would say at least a 90% success rate. The trick, as one of my friends with the console told me, is to actually NOT speak to it in a robotic tone, but to just try and be casual (which is weird when speaking to a hunk of plastic, I know) ... but it's really worked for me! Saying, "Xbox, go to settings" instantly takes you there, negating the many complaints you may see that people find it hard to locate certain menus or folders by using just the controller. Most of the time, you can just say, "Xbox, go to ____________," and you'll be there in a snap! Switching between games, other apps, and TV is nearly instantaneous - it's a marvel to see, really. Very nice.

The Kinect camera, on the hand, I am having some problems with. I tried to play the free Kinect Sports title, but no matter how hard I try, it just seems like my tiny apartment is not providing the ideal space requirement the Kinect needs for visuals with this game. I'm going to play around with it more tomorrow and see if I can figure something out.

So far, I'm happy with my purchase. I bought it for the same reason I bought the Wii U: it offers something different that isn't being done on other systems. PS4 is mostly for games, and I respect that, but the Xbox One's Kinect and TV capabilities are what sets it apart and will hopefully provide different experiences in the future.

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