Topic: Do you consider video games as art?

So i know nintendo has a big push on the Art Style rather then graphics but do you think video games are a type of art?

Like would you consider Zelda art and would you consider COD art?

There is a lot wrong with this statement. An art style is an just that, an art style. Nintendo went with a cell shaded art style, COD goes with a realistic art style. Nintendo can also focus on graphics with a cell shaded art style, by putting a lot of detail and whatnot into it. If it looks really pretty, it's because Nintendo focused on the graphics. There is no such thing as art style over graphics like that, all art styles are a different overall look of graphics.

Wait is this a thread about about games being a form of expression, or a discussion about the actual art assets of a game? Because I feel like the latter greatly misses the point...

Google's definiton - The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

So yes.

The AAA games are less "art" than say indie games. More expression is in smaller budget games than games thats main focus is to create a profit

Art is nothing more than self-expression, and some people have nothing more to express than the desire to entertain. Just because a painting isn't trying to be the Mona Lisa doesn't mean it isn't art, and I don't see why a AAA game is "less art" than an indie game.

At this point, anyone who disagrees is just ignorant.

/thread.

Its subjective. Some say its a form of art while others claim it otherwise. I mean look at the original Star Fox which didn't really have much of an artstyle but the graphics however were superior in its time.

From the developer's perspective, yes. From the publisher's perspective, no.

Again, this seriously misses the point. No one's arguing over the art assets of a game. The question is whether or not a game as a whole is capable of expressing themes or ideas in a meaningful way.

Okami. Full of art. Even landscapes are artistic. Incredible special effects from special moves are artistic.
I consider games as a form of art.

I believe they can be considered as art. Actually, all of the Realistic visuals vs Stylized visuals debates that have been popping up lately have been interesting to me. I know Zelda U has caused quite a few topics on that very subject. Some people like the stylized approach that Nintendo is using, while others want to see visuals that are grittier and a more realistic representation.

I know many people like to discuss the technical aspects of graphics, but it's also nice to see discussion on the artistic side of them as well.

It definitely can be such in the case of Windwaker, Earthbound, or Okami; but NSMBU or Call of duty 37 definitely aren't art.

I mean in your personal opinion do you consider the look/style of it art

Sources say no.

It highly depends on both the title and the developers' intentions wether a game can be considered art.

Child of Light, for example, is a very personal and ambient piece of art that strongly calls to childhood memories and fairytale theming.
Odin Sphere can be considered classic (digital) art for its intense focus on a very deep and emotional story that never feels artificial.

There are a few other artistical games. But the problem with these kinds of games is that you can't look at them like a painting, which can be determined as art in some way or another in a very short amount of time and without having to react to it in any specific way - you have to completely sink into the depths of the game world and experience it as if you were passively present - or in other words, ignore the fact that it's a game.

The most glaring problem, though, is that gaming is broad entertainment, and art is an extremely specific kind of entertainment, making both principles cross paths, but also miss each other.

...that's pretty much a blantant fact, though, and nobody can really argue that. "Are the art assets of a game art?" just sounds like an incredibly stupid question...yes, the music of a game is art. Yes, the visual aspects of a game are art, and they have been considered as such under every possible definition since CGi has been in use in other mediums. What is there left to talk about? "Are the art assets of a realistic looking game art?" isn't even much of a question, either. It's called "realism" and it's one of the foremost genres of visual art.

I'm disappointed, now...

^This.
Though devs, AAA or otherwise, should not forget to add the fun or else its a pretentious and boring experience. As art =/= good, one good look at deviantART pretty much is much proof of that.