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Buizel

I worry that if Nintendo released a new dedicated handheld at this point they would've learnt nothing these past few years.

Grumblevolcano wrote:

There are advantages that a handheld only 3DS successor would have over the Switch like:

  • Price
  • Clamshell design
  • Small enough to fit in pockets
  • Backwards compatibility with DS/3DS

The 3DS already has all of these features.

I also don't see why a 3ds successor would be easier to develop for. @skywake has already pointed out that it would make more work for Nintendo. Also the majority of Switch releases have been low budget games, showing that HD hardware doesn't necessarily mean difficult-to-develop software.

Buizel

FragRed

Are we still discussing the idea of a 3DS successor that isn't the Switch? I thought this has long been buried?

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Anti-Matter

@FragRed
But Shuntaro Furukawa said he might consider a next machine after 3DS.
What could it be ?
A Dual Screen Nintendo device with power as Strong as PS Vita with name Nintendo HDS ?

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1. Dance Dance Revolution series (100)
2. Dragon Quest Builders 2 PS4/Switch (95)
3. The Sims 4 PS4 + All contents (93)
4. Portal Knights PS4 (90)
5. Final Fantasy VIII PS1 (90)
6. Animal Crossing New Leaf: Welcome Amiibo 3DS (89)

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FragRed

@Anti-Matter Of course he was, that's just business. Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are always considering possible successors to their consoles. Even Sony would have been considering a PS Vita successor during the second and maybe third year on the market but that doesn't mean they will ever follow through with it. The Switch is Nintendo's successor to both the home and handheld consoles. It makes too much sense for them moving forward.

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Grumblevolcano

@FragRed As long as the 3DS is still alive the discussion of a dedicated handheld won't completely disappear.

Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with the concept of Nintendo only supporting the Switch and successors basically being more powerful Switches. I just think Nintendo releasing a dedicated handheld successor to the 3DS after the success of the Switch would be a very Nintendo like move.

Edited on by Grumblevolcano

Grumblevolcano

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FragRed

@Grumblevolcano That would be a very Nintendo move before the move to HD, but Nintendo has openly accepted that developing games for more powerful hardware and in HD was harder and more work than they had expected it to be. Just like Sony learned trying to support both a home and HD handheld, I feel like Nintendo has learned that they can only focus on one system at a time. 2 HD systems would be too much for the internal teams to handle.

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Nemodius

@skywake @Buizel
been trying to get people to see that in some previous posts where I said design a realistic successor and set some realistic parameters

people keep wanting it, but I think not willing to accept that a dedicated handheld and/or a "DS" successor in direct competition with a portable base console is not feasible or practical
I understand the love of backwards compatibility, but sometimes you just have to evolve and sometimes that requires sacrifice

people almost act like the fact that the Switch is a traitor to handhelds, I mean, just the words they say
"Dedicated Handheld"
I had asked would a N3DS+ with a wireless HDMI out (a WLAN HDMI dongle accessory for the tv) be accepted ???
it would no longer be a "Dedicated Handheld", but still play games from the 3DS/DS, but has the added function option of a console interface

I get silence, I think some people want to be Handheld Ahmish and refuse to progress even if it would provide all they need

"Dedicated" is "DEAD-icated" after the DS line
the next "DS" line may be be a DS-Hybrid idea, so two possible types of Nintendo "Hybrids", but people saw a realistic option, and love it and if a "Dual Screen" game system is to continue, it will have to stand next to the Switch or as a part of the Switch DS (or something),

but as unlikely as that will be, it proves a point, people want the DS lines to get bigger and better, but also want a possible smaller Switch Slim type thing, so we are already at that happy medium, the Dual Screen gaming systems had their time, Nintendo is just getting rid of contracts with manufacturers of the N3DS & N2DS hardware and will support it for at least another 2 years, but likely not progress it further,
but yah, Dedicated is DEAD-icated !!!

but out of fairness to Dedicated Handheld-philes, I will again ask.....
What could the next "Dedicated Handheld" REALISTICALLY and SIGNIFICANTLY bring to the table that would set it apart from its direct portable Hybrid competitor, the Switch X as more than just another "improvement" to an old system

Edited on by Nemodius

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FragRed

@Nemodius I agree, there seems to be a small group of people unwilling to accept that in today's climate, a "dedicated handheld" as they see it makes no sense and the success of the Switch is seen as the eventual downfall/fate of the 3DS and the pure dedicated handheld line that begin 30 years ago.

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Octane

@FragRed The concept art looks good. I hope they it doesn't set the expectations too high. That's the issue with these kind of reveals, looks great at first, but the gameplay can be an absolute turd! The main character's face as well. Who knows what he looks like, but it can look terrible

I like the concept, and seeing that art, I can imagine the potential. Let's hope the actual reveal doesn't disappoint.

Octane

Anti-Matter

@Octane
I have a Bad feeling about Bandai Namco when they want to make 3D rendering.
From my experience with Bandai Namco games on Nintendo machines, their weakness were just about 3D Trees / Plants rendering.
They looked awful (like PS1 / PS2 3D Models) in HD rendering.
Even on Go Vacation Switch, Bandai Namco still HAVEN'T remake the Villa's furnitures, trees, etc in proper 3D rendering.
I wonder if Bandai Namco can compete with Dragon Quest Builders that have Very NICE 3D rendering of Trees, bushes, plants, furnitures, textures, etc.

My Top 6 games :
1. Dance Dance Revolution series (100)
2. Dragon Quest Builders 2 PS4/Switch (95)
3. The Sims 4 PS4 + All contents (93)
4. Portal Knights PS4 (90)
5. Final Fantasy VIII PS1 (90)
6. Animal Crossing New Leaf: Welcome Amiibo 3DS (89)

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Octane

@Anti-Matter Since when do you care about graphics?

Go Vacation, isn't that a port or remaster of the Wii game? I think that explains why the game doesn't look up-to-date.

Octane

Grumblevolcano

Ugh, looks like everyone but pros have left Mario Tennis Aces. It's very difficult to win even 1 match nowadays.

Grumblevolcano

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Anti-Matter

@Octane
And also on Disney Magical World 1 & 2 3DS.
Bandai Namco is Not good at making nice Cartoonish 3D trees on that game.
Animal Crossing New Leaf has Better 3D trees in 240p.

My Top 6 games :
1. Dance Dance Revolution series (100)
2. Dragon Quest Builders 2 PS4/Switch (95)
3. The Sims 4 PS4 + All contents (93)
4. Portal Knights PS4 (90)
5. Final Fantasy VIII PS1 (90)
6. Animal Crossing New Leaf: Welcome Amiibo 3DS (89)

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1UP_MARIO

I agree the games are more competitive but getting a game was even harder. I waited over 10 minutes for a game yesterday. @Grumblevolcano

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1UP_MARIO

@Anti-Matter it‚Äôs all about the trees. Games are not fun without the nice rendered trees ūüėČ

We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

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FragRed

@1UP_MARIO @Anti-Matter You know what has nice rendered trees? Red Dead Redemption 2. Now that's how you render a tree. Full glorious HD/4K trees. And they are everywhere. So if you look quality tree rendering, look no further than Red Dead Redemption 2.

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DarthNocturnal

Forza Horizon 4 also has nice trees. I should know. I've ran into so many of them!

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Anti-Matter

@FragRed
No Thanks.
Best 3D Trees rendering for me = Dragon Quest Builders.

My Top 6 games :
1. Dance Dance Revolution series (100)
2. Dragon Quest Builders 2 PS4/Switch (95)
3. The Sims 4 PS4 + All contents (93)
4. Portal Knights PS4 (90)
5. Final Fantasy VIII PS1 (90)
6. Animal Crossing New Leaf: Welcome Amiibo 3DS (89)

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1UP_MARIO

@FragRed lol ūüėā

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Octane

@Anti-Matter Bandai Namco didn't make those Disney games, they only published them.

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