Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@FragRed Pokemon Let's Go and Smash Ultimate are enough regarding huge holiday games when combined with games that are already on the system like BotW, MK8 Deluxe and Mario Odyssey. Game droughts on the other hand look bad and the 2nd half of this year is mostly in a Wii U era type game drought period. I don't know if Nintendo's trying to rely on 3rd parties to fill in the gaps or if they're saving some 1st party announcements (e.g. Wii U ports) for a July Direct but the former isn't going to work.

They were still on track to 20 million IIRC. I'm not too antsy about it, considering how popular Pokemon and Smash are.

Does the general public even think the Switch is "underperforming"? That's the real question I want to know. If sales figures say otherwise then fine, but considering games have been selling well I'd wager people are seeing games all the time to buy.

Nintendo is having an unusually packed summer, August aside, where again some of those JRPGs could have gone.

@Grumblevolcano I expect Pokemon + the Pokeball to definitely move units. Smash sells mostly to the faithful, so I don't see that moving systems the same way anything with the Pokemon brand + existing content does. I don't think they're relying on third parties given how little they focused on third parties at E3. Which is weird considering the gap in 1st party output, and the fact that a number of great 3rd parties are filling that space. I think they're probably more overconfident than anything else. Maybe there's more WiiU ports, but I think they are confident in their existing lineup and what they're offering more than they probably should be. They fully bank on evergreen sales that if BotW sold systems last year, it will still sell systems 4 years from now so that's now part of the annual lineup for them because it worked that way in the 90's. OTOH, it's hard to say they're wrong, look at GTA and Skyrim.... it's not just a Nintendo effect anymore.

But the third party lineup is the best I've seen from Nintendo since the DS. It's almost like other consoles with weekly releases of must have titles.

I think they're on track for now but laced with the same kind of hubris that will net Sony some trouble. My worry is several years from now depending on the new presidents priorities.

I actually thought nearly any worthwhile games are all coming in 2nd half... Like I personally have 8 retail games on 2nd half? That's pretty much unprecedented for me, personally.

I'm not sure how you find that 2nd half is drought though? (The only game that I bought that is late port is Ys8 for 2nd half) @Grumblevolcano

I have to move my purchase of Ys VIII to August when money is better because er….yep....

This is a thing I ran face first into.

@darkfenrir I was talking about 1st party (exclusives and ports) and 3rd party exclusives, considering that was the logic used for looking at Wii U lineups it's only fair to consider the same with Switch. So you have a massive gap between between July 13th and October 5th with only the Xenoblade 2 DLC in between.

@Grumblevolcano Actually if we count third party exclusives there is the release of Monster Hunter in August I guess.

@Knuckles-Fajita It was released in Japan a year ago.

@Grumblevolcano don't forget The World Ends With You, even if it's a remake or remaster I have no idea.

@Grumblevolcano Still an exclusive that is launching to everyone else who didnt inport.

By that logic the Xenoblade DLC isnt exclusive new content either, because its for an existing game.

This. I'm too lazy to look for the article, but this has been confirmed by Reggie. Couple that with the fact that we know Nintendo reveals lots of games soon before they release (or, in the case of this E3, hours before they release).

@Knuckles-Fajita I was looking at it more from the perspective that game droughts in Japan are just as bad as game droughts outside Japan. MHGU slightly softens the drought for the west but even with counting that, 1 DLC release and 1 game for a 3 month gap isn't good.

@Tsurii Wii U had VC, if 3rd party multiplatform games count then so does VC.

Including Coming Soon software there is 831 games on the UK eShop.

I would be legitimately impressed if someone could say "No games" or "There's nothing for me there".

@Knuckles-Fajita
"I would be legitimately impressed if someone could say "No games" or "There's nothing for me there".

They said like that maybe there is NO games like Zelda BOTW or Beefy AAA 3rd party games like on PC.
They will deminish any games under that qualification, even simple games that enjoyed by Casuals.

@Knuckles-Fajita It would be false to say 'No games', but don't hate on someone for saying "There's nothing for me there".

If Nintendo didn't have Super Smash Bros Ultimate they would have nothing coming out for me.

@Harmonie On the entire system's library?

I'm sorry you don't like the majority of video games genres

@Grumblevolcano That doesn't help the Wii U's case much.

There's no Wii U level droughts in the slightest. Period.

Yeah, never go full Wii U. That was truly a dark time.