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shaneoh

Aviator wrote:

You have the option of whether or not to take part in a small service provided.

Show me a way to literally disable achievements from triggering and I will agree that the system is optional (and I'm not talking about the notification pop-ups).

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McGruber

This is something I personally don't understand could not be a thing yet on Nintendo consoles. Achievements should totally be a thing, and we should be getting coins for completing them. The coins should get us discounts and free downloadable games. There's no reason Nintendo can't take the basic idea of achievements and make it even more fun, but they seem to be really against doing things that make total sense if they have been done by Sony and Microsoft. Still this isn't as big a deal as the damn online functionality being tied to a phone app...

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Octane

DefHalan wrote:

Octane wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

If Nintendo has mandatory achievements on the switch, I will hold off even longer on getting one.

They are never mandatory...

Microsoft and Sony require achievements in every game

They're not mandatory to collect though, that's the point, it's optional.

Octane

Grumblevolcano

AlexSays wrote:

shaneoh wrote:

Looking at consoles as they are at the moment, what is it that they are doing differently? Everyone is [del]strapping a screen to their face[/de] doing "VR,".

You've officially lost me. I only know of one console with VR.

Seeing as how your 'the sky is falling, everything was better back in my day' tirade is moving us further and further away from the original point of the thread, I'll drop it here.

If you'd like less features for the sake of uniqueness, have at it. You're off to a good start without the ethernet you mentioned.

Microsoft have already said that VR is a big part of Scorpio (the 2 main focuses of Scorpio are VR and 4K gaming) so while currently it's true there's only 1, it'll be 2 by this holiday season.

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BigBadJohn

Hey wouldn't it be great if Nintendo Switch had an achievement system?

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FGPackers

@BigBadJohn I would love the add, but at the same time i would not complain if they will not be added. The more ways to enjoy the system, the better

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rallydefault

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Woof - peeps gettin touchy lately lol My apologies, general.

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DefHalan

Octane wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Octane wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

If Nintendo has mandatory achievements on the switch, I will hold off even longer on getting one.

They are never mandatory...

Microsoft and Sony require achievements in every game

They're not mandatory to collect though, that's the point, it's optional.

If I play a game on those systems, I have to collect some of the achoevements. They are directly tied to progression. So they are not optional.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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ChrispyNoodle

Achievements have ruined gaming in my opinion. Completing the game itself, isnt that the achievement? They mean nothing and essentially its just a way for Sony and Microsoft to entice you into to spending more money on DLC and more games.

I just unlocked an achievement on my xbox one for streaming 44 hours on the All 4 app. Seriously?

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AlexSays

Well there you have it, three pages to get to 'achievements have ruined gaming.'

Usually you guys are a bit quicker, the site is getting slow in its old age.

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PikPi

If anything I'd say they make games last longer

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spizzamarozzi

ChrispyNoodle wrote:

Achievements have ruined gaming in my opinion. Completing the game itself, isnt that the achievement? They mean nothing and essentially its just a way for Sony and Microsoft to entice you into to spending more money on DLC and more games.

As said, I'm not particularly pro nor against achievements in games, but isn't it the other way around?! In theory, by hunting achievements, a videogame should last you more, so you don't need to go out and buy another one after 8 hours.

EDIT: a more correct criticism would be that they have artificially expanded the longevity of videogames by making you do small tasks for micro-rewards, but again, considering companies can get away with anything nowadays and still be applauded, artificially expanding videogame longevity seems like a gift rather than a scam.

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crimsontadpoles

ChrispyNoodle wrote:

Achievements have ruined gaming in my opinion. Completing the game itself, isnt that the achievement? They mean nothing and essentially its just a way for Sony and Microsoft to entice you into to spending more money on DLC and more games.

I just unlocked an achievement on my xbox one for streaming 44 hours on the All 4 app. Seriously?

Then don't bother about them, and just play the game how you want to play it. I like to collect achievements, but I don't care whether others do that or not.

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Raiko

It would be nice to turn them off completely. Knowing they're linked to your profile and you have no way of hiding them from yourself, it is rather annoying. Its hard to ignore, too. They're designed in such a way that you can't help but feel like you've not truly completed a game.

I don't know why, but I find it impossible to ignore, as much as I hate them. Nobody else cares about your achievements, but yourself. The reason they are so visible to others is to help market those games. Your friends will see them and assume you enjoyed particular games to some extent.

I'd prefer achievements if they were hidden within a game so I could focus on chasing such things only in the games that mattered to me. I didn't need to boast about my accomplishments in the pre-achievement era. I don't really feel it should be forced on me now.

I appreciate Nintendo's approach to achievements, mainly because most games handle achievements very poorly. If they were ever to change their stance and introduce them (which I could understand), at least offer players the ability to opt out.

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DBPirate

When I first got a PS4 a few months back, I was obsessed with achievements. So much so, in fact, that I purchased a PS Store gift card just to get the multiplayer-exclusive achievements. I was really hoping that the Switch would have achievements and I was even going to decide on which console I should get Lego City based exclusively on that.

Soon, I realized that I wasn't having fun anymore and I was forcing myself to get the trophies. Now I don't mind them while I'm playing. I don't really think that achievements are a necessity as I used to but it won't be the end of the world if they're included. I just won't pay attention to them.

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PikPi

Personally, I only start caring about them in games I really enjoy. Which is why Final Fantasy X, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3 are the only ones I have them all in.

For Nintendo, it would have been very smart of them to have certain tasks in games unlock exclusive miiverse stamps. That way people could show them off in their own little Nintendo community. And it would be a very unique way of them implementing them. But with the death of miiverse, that's an idea that will never see the light of day.

I do like that they're toying with the idea in their mobile games. I hope they find them successful enough to start implementing them on a wider scale in future hardware or software.

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Silly_G

As long as they don't unlock anything, then they can do whatever they like. In my opinion, the whole "Achievements" schtick is completely stupid, designed to suck compulsive players into spending ungodly hours on the most trivial of tasks in the game.

e.g.
Achievement #1
Played "X" for the first time!

Achievement #49
Played "X" for the five hundredth time!

Achievement #69
Beat Mirror Cup for the first time in 2-player multiplayer.

Achievement #9582
Bred 500 female Chikoritas!

Achievement #92938919
StreetPassed with 20 people from Ethiopia!

"Achievements" are expertly designed to exploit vulnerable people (the very same sorts of people that may be susceptible to other forms of compulsive behaviour, such as gambling) and artificially extend the life of a game without having to incorporate any additional content. Some games may have their own self-contained "achievement" systems, such as Pokémon Black/White and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but these "achievements" are a means to brag to other players, and are otherwise inconsequential to gameplay.

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FGPackers

Operative2-0 wrote:

For Nintendo, it would have been very smart of them to have certain tasks in games unlock exclusive miiverse stamps.

I don't think that would be a good one. There's a lot of people (myself included) that didn't use Miiverse because it was really slow. Infact i took a lot of stamps (for example got all in MK8 and TPHD) but didn't share any on it. If they do a better job with social media (especially Twitter) it can become a global thing. If they do it like this i go all crazy about it, i would really love it

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Grumblevolcano

If there's any game that represents the insanity of achievements, it would have to be Overwatch. A load of insane achievements like The Floor is Lava but also there's achievements that can only be done at certain times of the year. Junkstein's Revenge was added as a game mode for only near Halloween, Mei's Snowball Offensive was for winter. At least there were no achievements for game modes added to represent events that don't happen every year though, for example Lucio Ball which was representing the summer olympics (happens every 4 years).

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