Topic: Metroid Prime Federation Force (and Blast Ball)

Nah not at all. At worst it looks rather uninspired and slow, but honestly I'd prefer that to a downright bad game. Which I doubt it will be. I still want another 2D or Prime Metroid game that focuses on Single player, but this will do for now. I'm just hoping there's more to it than we've seen so far. Which, knowing Nintendo, there probably is.

@TheLastLugia @Operative

Come on kids, I hardly see cause to report each other here. It's not abuse to say you don't like someone.

However, it's unnecessary, and completely indulgent for you to derail the topic in your spat, so either learn to get along or stop posting.

And please remember, if you think someone is abusing you etc. DO NOT REPLY TO THEM.

@gcunit I regret it when things like this happen, truly I do, but I was slyly called a name by someone who has done so before to me for simply expressing my opinion, I wasn't going to sit back and let that slide. I called them out for it and it resulted in well, what you saw, a rant that I didn't contribute 80% of the text to despite being accused of ranting. I have learned not to go down that avenue in future because of this, they spoiled it clearly, but I don't think I was wrong for not accepting that sly comment.

However moving on from just this quarrel and this person in general I have to say this site is poorly reflected too in my opinion. You need a way for people to block others, it's as simple as that. Most websites have this feature, particularly on forums, it makes fallouts like this far less frequent and even provides a solution if it does happen. Now I know the 'correct' thing to do would be to e-mail you about this privately but I was told several months ago that this feature was coming, since then a major restructuring of the site has happened without this feature, and since then I did e-mail you about this feature, and have yet to receive even confirmation that anyone read it. So I'm going to put it out in the open here, I'm let down by your site as a result of this and would really appreciate an answer as to when this feature will be added. No more half-answers or ignoring of e-mails please, I would like better than that after this debacle.

If I can't express my opinion on a video game forum that voice chat implementation in most games is garbage without being slyly called a 'fanboy' by someone who has repeatedly done so and have no course of action available to me to ensure this does not repeat then how good is this site really? My thoughts are it's quite lacking. Quite a lot.

Now again I'm sorry for having a true rant there and derailing even more but I was disappointed when my e-mailed was ignored and after this I really do expect answers. You yourself might not be in a position to give them but I want my experience to be out here for people to see, or at least one of the people in charge of this site to see it as the site needs to improve. It's downright sad to me that the only course of action even at this point is just 'make-up and try to ignore each other in the future please!' because I have ignored this person, being quite certain of their disliking of me months ago. But as you've seen here, simply ignoring them isn't enough anymore, not when the other person seems to have it out for you, and making up should be beyond obviously not an option. It's clear that that ship has sailed here, and when people are slyly and indirectly insulting you that is the prefect time to hit the 'block' button as I would've done if it was there. But it ain't. That for me is the number 1 problem.

There needs to be a blocking feature. Saying to people that we need to kiss and make up all the time stops being said to you when you reach puberty most of the time. It can still happen, but a lot of the time it just is patronising to even suggest it. This is one of those times, and I think this feature is way past due for implementation. It shouldn't be hard to do and it solves the problem almost perfectly with very, very few negative side-effects.

Thanks for reading and I look forward to what I hope (read expect) is a quick response.

(PS it's not like this was an active and healthy thread anyway, the game's not out for months and barley anyone is excited for it so there's few other threads that could've been better in my opinion.)

Prime isn't a spinoff, because it keeps the core gameplay of Prime. You explore levels, go through moves, look for new abilities, and so on just like the 2D games. A spinoff takes an existing universe and applies it to a different genre or mechanics. It'd be more accurate to call the Prime games a second branch of the series. It still follows Metroid's gameplay mechanics, but the 3D levels give it a slightly different feel to it.

3D World adding new level gimmicks and powerups doesn't compare to what's been done in games like the Mario collectathons, the Prime games, and even Pokemon. The level gimmicks and powerups are mainly contained in specific levels. Some of the things that the other games I've mentioned are changes that affect the entire game's mechanics, such as new moves and abilities, game wide gimmicks like FLUDD and the PED Suit, improvements to the gameplay formula and extra features like some of the things Pokemon's done (abilities, Mega Evolutions, the PSS). The newer games blatantly recycle everything and just add new levels and minor gimmicks, that's why the series feels milked. You don't see them doing anything about the level design, character abilities, the progression system, or anything like that.

I return to this thre- reads the past few pages cya in 3 weeks everybody!

(When are people going to realize their love/hate for a game can only be justified by when it comes out and they play it?)

but I have played it... at least the Blast Ball side of things lol

Prime is actually more of a spin off series, the prime games bear no weight on the overall story of the main series (most of the time it's like they never happened at all). They took the concept and spun it around to create something new.

The only reason they're set in between 1 and 2 is really just that, because they could be set there without affecting anything else.

The big difference is that they became really popular and beloved by fans (probably even more so than the main series), so calling them spin offs may come off as "insulting" for some (like saying Prime is to Metroid what Crossbow Training is to Zelda), but it really shouldn't. It's a broad enough term.

I'd say that the LEGO games are collectathons.

Exactly. If I make a claim that Smash is a spin off, people will find it insulting that its an actual IP when in reality, its more of a crossover game.

I think Prime started off as a spin off but did so well it became part of the main series. Prime is just a sub series now. It is a series within a series lol

I'd say it maybe was the other way around... It started as a new entry in the series that developed into its own spinoff series.

That doesn't really define a spinoff either. Look at Mario, that doesn't really have a story either, are you then going to consider every sequel a spinoff of the original? Heck, even Galaxy vs. Galaxy 2 disproves that notion, 2 is a clear sequel to 1, but its storyline has no impact on the Galaxy series at all, it actually sort of retcons it.

@Bolt_Strike Galaxy 2 is basically an expansion pack of Galaxy. So you're saying that finally making it as its own game becomes a spin off all of a sudden?

Again, I think you're wrong here. Generally, a sequel is a continuous work of an existing project. Prime has sequels so those are called sequels but the actual series itself is a spinoff overall.

Interms of Galaxy 1 & 2, 2 is a sequel to 1 without a doubt. But the Galaxy series as a whole is its own spin off series simply because it does things differently than the typical 64 one. Sunshine can be considered a spiritual sequel since it pretty much uses the elements from 64 but does it differently.

Even the levels that represent 64 in Galaxy are remade so its not like its exactly the same as the original ones from 64 isn't it?

No, what I'm saying is that it wasn't related storyline wise to the first Galaxy game despite being a sequel.

What's considered a "continuous work" has a different meaning in video games because gameplay is more central to the identity of a video game than the plot.

This is such a ridiculous extreme, doing something differently doesn't automatically make it a spinoff. The Prime games did things differently from each other (2 had the light/dark world system, 3 had the motion controls and the PED Suit), and yet they're still numbered sequels in the same series. What matters is that they share the same core formula.

Why would Prime be a spin-off? Who says that?
It expanded the universe. It had solid gameplay. It had exploration. It had a proper story and lore, that stretched 3 games.
Now explain how Other M hasn't been mentioned as a spin-off, yet?
Castlevania SotN and further on is a spin-off then. Excuse me while I go bleach my eyes, thanks to this thread.

@KO-Cub I think Prime is a spin-off mostly for being in the 1st Person perspective and having a 3D world, while the Metroid series is a side scroller perspective with a 2D world. Other M hasn't been mentioned because why would it be. People don't like Other M for the most part. (I haven't played Other M)

While we're at it, let's call the 3D Marios and the 3D Zeldas spinoffs too.

While you're at it, call Splatoon a Sunshine spinoff instead of a new IP

Well aren't they?

I think people missed the earlier post where I mentioned Prime started as a spin-off but became a part of the main series lol