@Mayoo but don't you think the Wii U is a substantial upgrade from the Wii ? To me the new 3ds is not a substantial upgrade from the original 3ds. But Wii u definitely was. Like the leap from ds to 3ds.
I wish Nintendo never said anything about the NX. It seems to have caused more ill than good. All i hear is whining about an unsunstantiated move to the new platform in terms of development resources.
Singling out the Wii U doesn't prove that the audience isn't there. Although I will agree that XB1 is going to have a higher number of people who will purchase this game.
Can't say anything about the Yakiza thing. Don't know what happened in Japan.
@SetupDisk I reckon you're correct pal. Don't know what the deal is. I can't put my finger on it. It's like everyone is dropping NIntendo (Because let's be honest, 3DS isn't better off in terms of 3rd parties).
@Aneira I never played any games from the Gamecube/PS2 era, so these remakes are relevant to someone like me.
guys, I hate to say it, but we just maybe need to forget about anyone but Nintendo making games for the WiiU. It's just one 3rd party disappointment after the next. You know, the sales thing doesn't fly anymore. You have 10 Million Wii U's in homes. You have an equal number of XBOX One's in homes. You cannot say where your game is going to sell more, because you have the same base to work with. And you might be inclined to say: "Mostly kids own Wii U's" So ok, let's say that's the kids. I'm sure a million of those users (such as myself) are grown ups. So, if they sell close to a million on Wii U, isn't that worth it?
So. Another game we wont have on Nintendo platforms. So another 65 million users they've lost out on. 65 million. Thats not a small number. Even 1% of that would have been worth getting if you're at indie.
50 million 3DS users and almost 10 million Wii U users seem to make a strong case for both Nintendo hardware and software pal. Go read the latest financials.
Theres nothing wrong with the hardware. Never has been.
And if you havent noticed, Nintendo games are about the only thing that does sell nintendo hardware.
You point out that fans of Nintendo seem to like the hardware more than the games, and then go on to say that the games would sell better on hardware everyone wants.
That doesnt make sense.
You cannot have nintendo games on a console if the console isnt a nintendo.
Fans of nintendo games go for the whole deal. they understand you need the console for the console games.
If you dont dig Nintendo, find a home at Microsoft or Sony. Forget about Nintendo. Move on.
@Azooooz dude, totally agree. Like sony do with the ps4. Makes the whole thing more attractive. Even if they just coloured the whole wii u and game pad un splats, making it look like it was shot with one of the guns.
The new 3ds is likely to be compared to the dsi. It came at the end of the cycle, introduced a few exclusive features and became the flagship model of the ds range. Of course i could be completely wrong.
I don't think it'd hurt if nintendo created a couple of IPs for mobile phone/tablet platforms only. For example, like Captain Toad was a spinoff of the Mario franchise, create a game that uses little known offshoot of a major franchise and takes advantage of the touch screen nature of these devices. That way a separate experience can be had, and it would not encroach on Nintendo's primary platforms.
@Jmaster Ok, so because you drive a toyota yaris, or use a colgate toothbrush, you're interested in keeping up to tabs with their financial woes, units sold, how they are doing in the market relative to their competitors.
No. You don't. Your comment stands just fine without the personal insults. Please stop — TBD
You know, there was a time that gaming sites and magazines were dedicated to games.
I remember it clearly. They would have reviews and previews, speculation and feedback from fans etc.
Now we have bullpoopoodoodoocacapoopsiedaisies like this.
No one ever mentioned if a console was doing well, or how it was comparing to the competition. They just showed the games that were out and that were coming out. Because that's what they were there for. The games.
Now everyone here is a pretending to be a loving financial analyst or financial advisor and investors in Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony, owning shares and really caring about whether a product sold more than the other.
It's such bullpoopoocacadoodoopoopledeedoople.
All these sites need to stop it.
They need to get back to what matters: the games. Please watch the profanity — TBD
@JaxonH Nice one dude, I agree completely. I feel dirty when I play on my 360. I feel happy when I play on my 3DS or Wii U. Nintendo's system isn't for every gamer, even thought that's how they tried to position the Wii U this gen. That means success will always be fleeting. And that doesn't mean Nintendo sucks. It just means that if you want to complain and moan about everything they do or do not do, you need to move onto a system that aligns with with the kind of content and features you want. Because you are not going to get everything you want from Nintendo.
@DESS-M-8 How to switch to Gamepad mode on Arkham Origins without using TV:
1) Start game. When Gamepad shows WayneTech logo, press +. Wait 20 seconds. 2) You would have started at the default save location, so just press a to select it the default one. 3) Wait two seconds, then press down and a. 4) Wait two seconds, press up and a.
That should switch you to Gamepad. I do it all the time as my TV is not with me at the moment.
@Royalblues True. And that's cool. Video Game Consoles are toys. Didn't you know? Check with Toys R Us. I got lots of toys. Wii, Wii U, 3DS, PSP and an XBOX360. Massive amount of toys. Never bored.
Don't want to bust anyone's balls, I'm going to simmer down on this. The PS4 and XBONE have yet to come to the fight in that part of the world. I do hope Nintendo gets to take advantage of the Christmas while they are still absent.
@unrandomsam While I cannot comment on how good or bad IE on XBOX One is when combined with a tablet and Smart Glass, I must point out that your statement is not relevant. To reiterate:
"Wii U web browser is the best browser on a console - ever."
Using Smart Glass with a third party tablet to browse with IE, while equivalent in terms of function and experience, is not the on par with to my statement. Here's why: You don't get a $300 - $500 tablet with your $500 XBOX One purchase. (Do you need XBOX Live to use IE?) The tablet is external 3rd party hardware. It is not a peripheral that is part of the console's function, and it is not purpose built for use on the console. So, you need to test browsing with IE from your XBOX One using your XBOX One only, and then compare that to the Wii U. That is inline with my statement.
And for the record, if I had a tablet, I'd just use the tablet's browser. But I don't have a tablet, so the Wii U fills that requirement for me.
That being said, if I had an XBOX One and a tablet with smartglass and IE (And XBOX Live - if required - I don't know), I might use it to browse on my XBOX One. But the feature would never be that relevant, as I'd still use the tablet if I wanted to browse something.
So I stand by my statement: It is the best browser on a console - ever.
And remember, it is not a statement intended to start an argument. It is my opinion that I am sharing.
I hope you understand the point I am trying to make.
@Caryslan Erm. Dude. The Wii U fully takes care of the Wii issue. You can migrate all your saves, WiiWare, VC games over to a Wii U to continue that expeirieince there. And then you still have Nintendo's next gen system to expeirience. Things like the new controller, the best Internet Browser across any gaming platform, MiiVerse and a new improved eShop with Indie titles dropping in on a weekly basis. Your Wii has been replaced by the Wii U. That's the next evolutionary step for you as a Nintendo gamer.
In regards to your statement about XBOX and PS3 being pure profit for their respective manufacturers. I seem to be reading fairly recently that MS or Sony were only now breaking even with their production costs on these 7 year old consoles, while the Wii was profitable from day one.
Nintendo hasn't abandoned anyone. They just have a new better Wii out there. It's called a Wii U. If you haven't abandoned them, you'll go and pick one up. Simple.
Wii U was a natural move for me. I transferred all my stuff over, and I've packed my good ol' Wii away. It's now part of history for me. There is no need to keep it out and powered up anymore. I'll never get rid of it though. But back to the point. The Wii U is a complete replacement, because it's got a Wii built-in. If i want to play my old Wii games, or my old VC games, I just click a channel. Done deal. Who else has done that in Next Gen? And don't even get me started on why the Wii U rocks.
@bizcuthammer Dude, there's no reason any of those games can't run on Wii U hardware, with or without making use of the Gamepad. Bottom line is, there are devs who are happier to be identified with PS and XBOX than they are with Wii U, while other devs (the lesser of the two groups) don't care and make things for Wii U.
What a crock of poopiedoodlecacadoggiepoopsiedoos. Charging us for content that is on the disc already?
You've got to be kidding. Watch the profanity please — TBD
@SkywardCrowbar right you are. Bundle an external with the next deployment of Wii Us. Like a 250GB or something. Strike a deal with Western Digital or Seagate to get an awesome deal for it. Add $25 to the price if you have to, or if Nintendo feel like being champs, include it at the same price. Launch it this Christmas. Be awesome.
People in the industry tend to hide behind corporate walls. They don't explain their situation, and then the speculation begins. For instance, I still would like to know how much of a saving WB is making by not including multiplayer in Arkham Origins, as this is the only reason I can see them making the cut in the first place. But is that saving worth the damage to the WiiU version?
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Re: Poll: Which Nintendo NX Games Do You Want to See in the Launch Window?
@MrGawain thats the first game i though of too!
Re: Talking Point: The New Nintendo 3DS is Yet to Have a Real Chance to Revive the Portable Family
@Mayoo but don't you think the Wii U is a substantial upgrade from the Wii ? To me the new 3ds is not a substantial upgrade from the original 3ds. But Wii u definitely was. Like the leap from ds to 3ds.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Storms to Number One in Japan
Vita on top. Wow. Nice job.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Approach to Transforming Franchises Clashes With Fan Expectations
@shani well said.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Approach to Transforming Franchises Clashes With Fan Expectations
I wish Nintendo never said anything about the NX. It seems to have caused more ill than good. All i hear is whining about an unsunstantiated move to the new platform in terms of development resources.
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
@CreativeWelshman
Thats shocking.
i wonder what would happen if they did eshop and launched global.
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
@kobashi100
Revelations sold horribly everywhere.
Look at the link provided:
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Resident_Evil
1.3 million sales across all platforms.
Singling out the Wii U doesn't prove that the audience isn't there.
Although I will agree that XB1 is going to have a higher number of people who will purchase this game.
Can't say anything about the Yakiza thing.
Don't know what happened in Japan.
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
@CreativeWelshman
sigh....
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
@CreativeWelshman
Nice list.
Yakuza 1&2, is that still a thing?
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
@SetupDisk
I reckon you're correct pal. Don't know what the deal is.
I can't put my finger on it.
It's like everyone is dropping NIntendo (Because let's be honest, 3DS isn't better off in terms of 3rd parties).
@Aneira
I never played any games from the Gamecube/PS2 era, so these remakes are relevant to someone like me.
Re: Capcom Is Bringing The Nintendo Exclusive Resident Evil Zero To Every Modern Gaming System But The Wii U
guys, I hate to say it, but we just maybe need to forget about anyone but Nintendo making games for the WiiU.
It's just one 3rd party disappointment after the next.
You know, the sales thing doesn't fly anymore.
You have 10 Million Wii U's in homes.
You have an equal number of XBOX One's in homes.
You cannot say where your game is going to sell more, because you have the same base to work with.
And you might be inclined to say: "Mostly kids own Wii U's"
So ok, let's say that's the kids.
I'm sure a million of those users (such as myself) are grown ups.
So, if they sell close to a million on Wii U, isn't that worth it?
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Dropped the Ball, Not the Mic, With Its Nintendo World Championships 2015 Qualifiers
@BLPs you sir, are a scholar and a saint. Well said.
Re: Former Castlevania Producer Koji Igarashi's Kickstarter Launches, But Won't Come To Nintendo Consoles
So. Another game we wont have on Nintendo platforms. So another 65 million users they've lost out on. 65 million. Thats not a small number. Even 1% of that would have been worth getting if you're at indie.
Re: Nintendo's First Smart Device Game With DeNA to Land This Year, But Only Five Planned Up to March 2017
@Quorthon
50 million 3DS users and almost 10 million Wii U users seem to make a strong case for both Nintendo hardware and software pal. Go read the latest financials.
Theres nothing wrong with the hardware.
Never has been.
And if you havent noticed, Nintendo games are about the only thing that does sell nintendo hardware.
You point out that fans of Nintendo seem to like the hardware more than the games, and then go on to say that the games would sell better on hardware everyone wants.
That doesnt make sense.
You cannot have nintendo games on a console if the console isnt a nintendo.
Fans of nintendo games go for the whole deal.
they understand you need the console for the console games.
If you dont dig Nintendo, find a home at Microsoft or Sony.
Forget about Nintendo.
Move on.
Re: Splatoon Wii U Hardware Bundle Confirmed for PAL Regions, Arrives In Australia and New Zealand 30th May
@Azooooz dude, totally agree. Like sony do with the ps4. Makes the whole thing more attractive. Even if they just coloured the whole wii u and game pad un splats, making it look like it was shot with one of the guns.
Re: Unity on New Nintendo 3DS Will Utilise Latest Version of the Engine at Launch
The new 3ds is likely to be compared to the dsi. It came at the end of the cycle, introduced a few exclusive features and became the flagship model of the ds range. Of course i could be completely wrong.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@JaxonH Dude, agree with you on every point. Well said.
Re: Former Sega of America CEO Talks Out on the Company's Mistakes and Shares Thoughts on Nintendo's Hardware Future
I don't think it'd hurt if nintendo created a couple of IPs for mobile phone/tablet platforms only. For example, like Captain Toad was a spinoff of the Mario franchise, create a game that uses little known offshoot of a major franchise and takes advantage of the touch screen nature of these devices.
That way a separate experience can be had, and it would not encroach on Nintendo's primary platforms.
Re: Nintendo Reports Financial Losses As Expected, Along With Modest Wii U Sales Targets
@Jmaster Ok, so because you drive a toyota yaris, or use a colgate toothbrush, you're interested in keeping up to tabs with their financial woes, units sold, how they are doing in the market relative to their competitors.
No. You don't.
Your comment stands just fine without the personal insults. Please stop — TBD
Re: Nintendo Reports Financial Losses As Expected, Along With Modest Wii U Sales Targets
You know, there was a time that gaming sites and magazines were dedicated to games.
I remember it clearly. They would have reviews and previews, speculation and feedback from fans etc.
Now we have bullpoopoodoodoocacapoopsiedaisies like this.
No one ever mentioned if a console was doing well, or how it was comparing to the competition. They just showed the games that were out and that were coming out. Because that's what they were there for. The games.
Now everyone here is a pretending to be a loving financial analyst or financial advisor and investors in Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony, owning shares and really caring about whether a product sold more than the other.
It's such bullpoopoocacadoodoopoopledeedoople.
All these sites need to stop it.
They need to get back to what matters: the games.
Please watch the profanity — TBD
Re: Research Firm IDC Anticipates Worldwide Wii U Price Cut in Late 2014 to 2015, Increase in Retail Downloads
@JaxonH Again, well said.
Re: Research Firm IDC Anticipates Worldwide Wii U Price Cut in Late 2014 to 2015, Increase in Retail Downloads
@memoryman3 XB1 and PS4 do not have a library to be diverse with. Have this conversation a year from now.
Re: Research Firm IDC Anticipates Worldwide Wii U Price Cut in Late 2014 to 2015, Increase in Retail Downloads
@JaxonH Nice one dude, I agree completely. I feel dirty when I play on my 360. I feel happy when I play on my 3DS or Wii U. Nintendo's system isn't for every gamer, even thought that's how they tried to position the Wii U this gen. That means success will always be fleeting. And that doesn't mean Nintendo sucks. It just means that if you want to complain and moan about everything they do or do not do, you need to move onto a system that aligns with with the kind of content and features you want. Because you are not going to get everything you want from Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Lifts The Lid On Its Plans For E3 2014
They should have done all of the above, in addition to the conference.
Re: Review: Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - Deluxe Edition (Wii U eShop)
I played the demo on XBOX360 this morning. Not too bad. I am considering getting it.
Re: Review: Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - Deluxe Edition (Wii U eShop)
@DESS-M-8 How to switch to Gamepad mode on Arkham Origins without using TV:
1) Start game. When Gamepad shows WayneTech logo, press +. Wait 20 seconds.
2) You would have started at the default save location, so just press a to select it the default one.
3) Wait two seconds, then press down and a.
4) Wait two seconds, press up and a.
That should switch you to Gamepad. I do it all the time as my TV is not with me at the moment.
Re: Wii U Skylanders Bundle Deal Heading to GameStop This Weekend
@Royalblues True. And that's cool. Video Game Consoles are toys. Didn't you know? Check with Toys R Us. I got lots of toys. Wii, Wii U, 3DS, PSP and an XBOX360. Massive amount of toys. Never bored.
Re: Wii U Console Sales Climb in Japan as 3DS XL Maintains Dominance
@Link41x
You're right. Can't argue the XBOX point.
Re: Wii U Console Sales Climb in Japan as 3DS XL Maintains Dominance
Don't want to bust anyone's balls, I'm going to simmer down on this. The PS4 and XBONE have yet to come to the fight in that part of the world. I do hope Nintendo gets to take advantage of the Christmas while they are still absent.
Re: Investment Site Motley Fool Executes Spectacular U-Turn By Claiming Nintendo Will Win This Christmas
"50% of everything we hear is the truth, and the other 50% is a lie. The trick is figuring out which is which." - Some Dude, Somewhere
Re: The YouTube Wii U App Update is Now Live
@unrandomsam While I cannot comment on how good or bad IE on XBOX One is when combined with a tablet and Smart Glass, I must point out that your statement is not relevant. To reiterate:
"Wii U web browser is the best browser on a console - ever."
Using Smart Glass with a third party tablet to browse with IE, while equivalent in terms of function and experience, is not the on par with to my statement.
Here's why: You don't get a $300 - $500 tablet with your $500 XBOX One purchase. (Do you need XBOX Live to use IE?)
The tablet is external 3rd party hardware. It is not a peripheral that is part of the console's function, and it is not purpose built for use on the console.
So, you need to test browsing with IE from your XBOX One using your XBOX One only, and then compare that to the Wii U. That is inline with my statement.
And for the record, if I had a tablet, I'd just use the tablet's browser.
But I don't have a tablet, so the Wii U fills that requirement for me.
That being said, if I had an XBOX One and a tablet with smartglass and IE (And XBOX Live - if required - I don't know), I might use it to browse on my XBOX One. But the feature would never be that relevant, as I'd still use the tablet if I wanted to browse something.
So I stand by my statement:
It is the best browser on a console - ever.
And remember, it is not a statement intended to start an argument. It is my opinion that I am sharing.
I hope you understand the point I am trying to make.
Re: The YouTube Wii U App Update is Now Live
Wii U web browser is the best browser on a console - ever.
Re: Soapbox: The Wii Changed The Face of Gaming, Before The Console Industry Promptly Forgot Its Lessons
@Caryslan Erm. Dude. The Wii U fully takes care of the Wii issue. You can migrate all your saves, WiiWare, VC games over to a Wii U to continue that expeirieince there. And then you still have Nintendo's next gen system to expeirience. Things like the new controller, the best Internet Browser across any gaming platform, MiiVerse and a new improved eShop with Indie titles dropping in on a weekly basis. Your Wii has been replaced by the Wii U. That's the next evolutionary step for you as a Nintendo gamer.
In regards to your statement about XBOX and PS3 being pure profit for their respective manufacturers. I seem to be reading fairly recently that MS or Sony were only now breaking even with their production costs on these 7 year old consoles, while the Wii was profitable from day one.
Nintendo hasn't abandoned anyone. They just have a new better Wii out there. It's called a Wii U. If you haven't abandoned them, you'll go and pick one up. Simple.
Re: Soapbox: The Wii Changed The Face of Gaming, Before The Console Industry Promptly Forgot Its Lessons
Wii U was a natural move for me. I transferred all my stuff over, and I've packed my good ol' Wii away. It's now part of history for me. There is no need to keep it out and powered up anymore. I'll never get rid of it though. But back to the point. The Wii U is a complete replacement, because it's got a Wii built-in. If i want to play my old Wii games, or my old VC games, I just click a channel. Done deal. Who else has done that in Next Gen?
And don't even get me started on why the Wii U rocks.
Re: Rayman Legends And Splinter Cell Blacklist Both Sold Less Than Expected, Says Ubisoft
Shame. Poor Ubi. Can't win 'em all.
Re: Nintendo Wants Wii U To Be "The Console That Every Developer Wants To Publish On"
@bizcuthammer Dude, there's no reason any of those games can't run on Wii U hardware, with or without making use of the Gamepad. Bottom line is, there are devs who are happier to be identified with PS and XBOX than they are with Wii U, while other devs (the lesser of the two groups) don't care and make things for Wii U.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Wii U And 3DS Broadcast Coming Tomorrow
I'm hoping it's tying in with the maintenance for:
Re: EA Executive: Shigeru Miyamoto is 'Falling Down on the Job'
Fool.
Re: Splinter Cell Blacklist Homeland DLC Available Now on Wii U
What a crock of poopiedoodlecacadoggiepoopsiedoos. Charging us for content that is on the disc already?
You've got to be kidding.
Watch the profanity please — TBD
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies Set To Take The Stand in October
I'll be getting this.
Haven't played one in the series before, so I'm really looking forward to it.
Re: Wii U Version of Splinter Cell: Blacklist Gets Patched Up
They never mentioned the freezing during Multiplayer at all.
Re: Wii Karaoke U by JOYSOUND to Threaten Neighbour Relations From 4th October
I am definitely going to use this. It's a great idea.
Re: Reaction: The Pokémon Bank and the Inevitability of Online Charges
Separate feature to the game.
Incurs real cost to NIntendo.
Supply and demand. You want it, pay for it.
Nothing wrong with that.
Re: Bethesda: The Time For Convincing Publishers And Developers To Support Wii U Is "Long Past"
@iMii Great answer dude.
Re: Weirdness: ABC News Tells Us All About How the 2Dees Can Play 3Dees Games
Research. Do it.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@Yorumi Agreed dude. I will put money on this: When Bayonetta 2 releases, we will get a true hardcore, HD, donkey-kicker. I predict this:
Can't wait for this game.
It will be a benchmark I reckon. At least for the Wii U's early life.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@EaZy_T Nice one. That makes perfect sense dude.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@SkywardCrowbar right you are. Bundle an external with the next deployment of Wii Us. Like a 250GB or something. Strike a deal with Western Digital or Seagate to get an awesome deal for it. Add $25 to the price if you have to, or if Nintendo feel like being champs, include it at the same price. Launch it this Christmas. Be awesome.
Re: Former Nintendo Marketing Specialist Sheds Light on Smash Bros. as a "Dangerous" Brand at EVO
People in the industry tend to hide behind corporate walls.
They don't explain their situation, and then the speculation begins.
For instance, I still would like to know how much of a saving WB is making by not including multiplayer in Arkham Origins, as this is the only reason I can see them making the cut in the first place. But is that saving worth the damage to the WiiU version?
Re: Platinum: Nintendo's Focus On Perfection Can Be "Unnerving", But They Give "Great Advice"
System seller folks. What this space.