@Idunno123 It has to do with whom your distributor was. Bergsala/enigma is the distributor of nintendo products in the nordic countries, most european countries have Nintendo of Europe as their distributor.
I think nintendos share price will go down after this. I don't think this will woe anyone and definitely not shareholders who wanted 'Mario on the phone'. Social gaming is also not one of Nintendos strength, so they have an uphill battle with this.
Edit: btw, why is there section on thr forum for mobile gaming and a nintendo?
@Tubalcain: 4th quarter is always the strongest. It is entirely plausable that they will sell half their sales during the 4th quarter. But it isn't especially good figures for either of their consoles.
@MarinoKadame: it is actually the other way around. While the downloading is ongoing, the system checks for corruption and redownloads the parts that are corrupted. If a disc has been scratched or damaged, you have to fix a new disc yourself.
@LilC you are talking purely from an american stand point. I have for example already beaten yoshi and xcx has been out a long time in japan. And even so, not everyone want those games. They are both pretty niche. It is a pretty abysmal holiday season for the wii u.
@Peach64 Are you sure about that? If it is, what is Wii doing on the list, since they discontinued it in 2013. They should not have them in stock anymore.
@bngrybt Therad's wife (being a woman) answering your question: Brad Pitt. Or George Clooney. Or their genetically engineered hybrid.
(though of course I can't speak for all women...).
As for the original subject of discussion: I don't think the problem is Samus's outfit, or body shape as such. If it were another woman, in another game, with another backstory, then big boobs and high heels could be quite ok.
The problem is that Samus is supposed to be a kick-as athletic warrior, so presumably she works out. And I don't mind her clothes, as such, they're ok for a workout... But although there are plenty of big-chested women in the world, I challenge you to show me a female athlete or bodybuilder with big boobs. Because boobs are fat. If you work out, they shrink. Also, please try to go out and fight someone in high heels. Please.
I also think that this is a less adressed angle on the whole "but the men are sexy too!!!!"-issue. Yes, the men are sexy, although on the whole they do get more functional cloths and armor than the women do (fun fact: boob armor will kill you). But if, as a man, you work out a lot (= like bodybuilder a lot), then your body will end up as something at least vaguely resembling Zangief. But if a woman works out a lot, then her body will ALSO end up looking a little like Zangief. Not like Linda Lovelace.
I wish games in general would get better at showcasing all kinds of bodies, male and female. And I don't mind unrealistically shaped characters, if it is consistent with the game and backstory of the character. The problem for me is the ridiculous lengths to which gaming companies and internet commentators will go to defend design decisions which are becoming more and more out of sync with the games themselves, and which are only motivated by "what the focus groups and target audience wants".
Especially when it seems to be assumed that boobs, ass and heels are the ONLY thing target audiences want (without actually checking with the audience in question, or questioning the choice of target audience).
If "lets add more boobs to sell games" isn't the definitions of sexism and objectification of women, it should be.
(also, male characters also being objectified does not make female objectification ok, they are BOTH wrong, and part of the SAME problem)
All you who say it doesn't matter, does this mean that you wouldn't care if they removed this from the game? And made the Zero version more anatomically correct and clad in more fighting appropriate garb?
Where have you seen all those girls that go and work out in really high heels irl?
And if you look at brawl, you clearly see that she is more sexualise in this entry. Not only the more skimpier alt, but also the zero suit version. She has bigger boobs, high heels and seems to have a smaller waist.
So why does Samus look like this in this game? The answer is simple, she is being designed as a sex object for the male audience. There is no in-game reason to have idiotic gear like this, it is all about pandering to a certain type of male gamer. (which is also idiotic from a financial stand point)
@19Robb92 it shouldn't be a surprise. Graphical power is all about the gpu. It has a gpu that is 2-3 generations ahead of ps360. Granted, ps360 had trouble outputting that.
Hd is also highly overrated. Shaders and polycount are much more important. Most people can't see the difference between 720p and 1080p from their normal viewing distance.
@bassoongoon Firaxis has been doing it for a while now, with civ-ports and Xcom. So it is not impossible that more strategist maker might come over to the dark side.
@Strongo9 You are right, the wiimote is not good for pointing. But the gamepad is, especially with a pen. You could have an abstract map on the screen where you give orders and have better visuals on the TV.
In fact, this could work out better than on a PC, since you wouldn't have to worry about obstacles (like trees and buildings) obstructing the mouse. So it could be a true 3d-environment where all the action is and it could have more camera movements to give a more cinemalike experience.
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Re: Tatsumi Kimishima Discusses His Focus on Nintendo's Future and Developing Talent
@NintendoFan64 except he also did mario 3d world, which would have been a better example to use.
Re: Tatsumi Kimishima Discusses His Focus on Nintendo's Future and Developing Talent
Did he just say a new mario galaxy is in development?
Re: Yoshi's Woolly World Developers on Baby Mario's Exclusion and Creating the Yoshi Designs
@OorWullie I actually think it is better than DKTF. I think DKTF is quite overrated, DKCr was far better IMHO.
Re: Video: Check Out a Graphical Comparison for The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
@RupeeClock: the video is in 720p, so it is hard to tell if they are using 1080p in-game.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Delays With My Nintendo and Miitomo are Disappointing, but Not Disastrous
@Idunno123 It has to do with whom your distributor was. Bergsala/enigma is the distributor of nintendo products in the nordic countries, most european countries have Nintendo of Europe as their distributor.
Re: More Details Emerge on How Miitomo Will Work
I think nintendos share price will go down after this. I don't think this will woe anyone and definitely not shareholders who wanted 'Mario on the phone'. Social gaming is also not one of Nintendos strength, so they have an uphill battle with this.
Edit: btw, why is there section on thr forum for mobile gaming and a nintendo?
Re: Nintendo Reports Profits as System Sales Show Positive Momentum
@Tubalcain: 4th quarter is always the strongest. It is entirely plausable that they will sell half their sales during the 4th quarter. But it isn't especially good figures for either of their consoles.
Re: Poll: The Tricky Issue of Retail Games as Download-Only Releases
@MarinoKadame: it is actually the other way around. While the downloading is ongoing, the system checks for corruption and redownloads the parts that are corrupted. If a disc has been scratched or damaged, you have to fix a new disc yourself.
Re: Nielsen Game Rank Lists the Most Anticipated Games of the Holiday Season
@dkxcalibur no, but appearantly it is more anticipated than xcx.
Re: Nielsen Game Rank Lists the Most Anticipated Games of the Holiday Season
@KFlow325: Xenoblade isn't a mainstream title.
Re: Talking Point: Why Does Investor Confidence in Nintendo Continue to Dip Under Tatsumi Kimishima?
@LilC you are talking purely from an american stand point. I have for example already beaten yoshi and xcx has been out a long time in japan. And even so, not everyone want those games. They are both pretty niche. It is a pretty abysmal holiday season for the wii u.
Re: Bill Trinen Appears To Have Left Nintendo Of America - Or Has He?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0&feature=youtu.be
Re: Bill Trinen Appears To Have Left Nintendo Of America - Or Has He?
He obviously got a new job in japan.
Re: Nintendo Announces Higher Than Expected Profits Despite Missed Sales Targets
@Peach64 Are you sure about that? If it is, what is Wii doing on the list, since they discontinued it in 2013. They should not have them in stock anymore.
Re: Satoru Iwata Highlights Growth of Wii U Sales in the West
@CaviarMeths Wii U XL accidently leaked!
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@bngrybt Therad's wife (being a woman) answering your question: Brad Pitt. Or George Clooney. Or their genetically engineered hybrid.
(though of course I can't speak for all women...).
As for the original subject of discussion: I don't think the problem is Samus's outfit, or body shape as such. If it were another woman, in another game, with another backstory, then big boobs and high heels could be quite ok.
The problem is that Samus is supposed to be a kick-as athletic warrior, so presumably she works out. And I don't mind her clothes, as such, they're ok for a workout... But although there are plenty of big-chested women in the world, I challenge you to show me a female athlete or bodybuilder with big boobs. Because boobs are fat. If you work out, they shrink. Also, please try to go out and fight someone in high heels. Please.
I also think that this is a less adressed angle on the whole "but the men are sexy too!!!!"-issue. Yes, the men are sexy, although on the whole they do get more functional cloths and armor than the women do (fun fact: boob armor will kill you). But if, as a man, you work out a lot (= like bodybuilder a lot), then your body will end up as something at least vaguely resembling Zangief. But if a woman works out a lot, then her body will ALSO end up looking a little like Zangief. Not like Linda Lovelace.
I wish games in general would get better at showcasing all kinds of bodies, male and female. And I don't mind unrealistically shaped characters, if it is consistent with the game and backstory of the character. The problem for me is the ridiculous lengths to which gaming companies and internet commentators will go to defend design decisions which are becoming more and more out of sync with the games themselves, and which are only motivated by "what the focus groups and target audience wants".
Especially when it seems to be assumed that boobs, ass and heels are the ONLY thing target audiences want (without actually checking with the audience in question, or questioning the choice of target audience).
If "lets add more boobs to sell games" isn't the definitions of sexism and objectification of women, it should be.
(also, male characters also being objectified does not make female objectification ok, they are BOTH wrong, and part of the SAME problem)
/wifey out
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@bngrybt Captain Falco and Zangief are not female fantasies, in fact they still pander to male sexuality. This is a common misunderstanding.
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
All you who say it doesn't matter, does this mean that you wouldn't care if they removed this from the game? And made the Zero version more anatomically correct and clad in more fighting appropriate garb?
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
Where have you seen all those girls that go and work out in really high heels irl?
And if you look at brawl, you clearly see that she is more sexualise in this entry. Not only the more skimpier alt, but also the zero suit version. She has bigger boobs, high heels and seems to have a smaller waist.
So why does Samus look like this in this game? The answer is simple, she is being designed as a sex object for the male audience. There is no in-game reason to have idiotic gear like this, it is all about pandering to a certain type of male gamer. (which is also idiotic from a financial stand point)
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
How many girls have you seen working out in high heels?
Unnecessary sexualization is unnecessary.
Re: Talking Point: The Steam Gaming Machines Are An Unconventional Challenge to the Wii U
@brucelebnd Every console has DRM steams DRM is nothing like the hated xbox one DRM.
Re: Fan Project Mega Man Unlimited Finished and Blasting Onto PC on 14th July
@TobiasAmaranth i thought you were anti-hacking? The wii hack is exactly the same thing as the 3ds hack, just alot cheaper.
Re: First Impressions: Mario Kart 8
@Tysamu yes. Why would that be so strange? And doesn't anyone read specs?
Re: First Impressions: Mario Kart 8
@19Robb92 it shouldn't be a surprise. Graphical power is all about the gpu. It has a gpu that is 2-3 generations ahead of ps360. Granted, ps360 had trouble outputting that.
Hd is also highly overrated. Shaders and polycount are much more important. Most people can't see the difference between 720p and 1080p from their normal viewing distance.
Re: 32GB White Wii U, Rechargeable Wii Remote Battery And 2550mAh GamePad Battery Announced
I wonder if this means the basic model will be phased out? Would be logical, so that consumers don't get confused...
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U Controller Options Open Up PC Game Opportunities
@bassoongoon Firaxis has been doing it for a while now, with civ-ports and Xcom. So it is not impossible that more strategist maker might come over to the dark side.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U Controller Options Open Up PC Game Opportunities
@Strongo9 You are right, the wiimote is not good for pointing. But the gamepad is, especially with a pen. You could have an abstract map on the screen where you give orders and have better visuals on the TV.
In fact, this could work out better than on a PC, since you wouldn't have to worry about obstacles (like trees and buildings) obstructing the mouse. So it could be a true 3d-environment where all the action is and it could have more camera movements to give a more cinemalike experience.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U Controller Options Open Up PC Game Opportunities
I think some sort of MMO could be nice on Wii U. Simply put, they usually requires a ton of buttons, which could be mapped onto the touchscreen.