What's the alternative to taking down these ROM sites? If they continue to turn a blind eye and let people download these games for free, what does it do to the value of their back catalogue?
@Jokerwolf This has absolutely zero effect on you then, since you have all the games already? Why the complaining? And anyone who REALLY wants to get them illegally still can.
These ROM sites have been acting unlawfully whether Nintendo takes action or not, it's just that nothing would happen unless they do. They're certainly not innocent parties here, they're effectively criminal organisations!
Just a note... I ran a GBC ROM site back in the late 90s, releasing ROM images before the games had even hit the shelves in some cases. We had thousands of visitors per day. Was I right to do so? Was I hell...
@Jokerwolf I'm sure they've appointed lawyers for this, not web developers. Also, it's harder to promote the download of old games as a selling point when they're freely available all over the internet. If you want to make money selling something that only you have the right to sell or distribute, it makes sense to get rid of the illegal competition.
Don't get me wrong, in the past I've played pretty much every SNES game as an illegally downloaded ROM. I just don't believe I had any right to, and if anything I owe Nintendo, no vice versa as some people seem to think!
@nessisonett Unfortunately you're the exception rather than the rule. For every person looking for a backup of their purchased games, there are 10,000 looking to play something they haven't bought for free...
@Crono1973 I think they publicised it as theft to make it more understandable as a crime for the layman. But back in those days it was literally selling knock-off floppy disks and carts on market stalls...
@Rayquaza2510 Erm, no... Those games have been purchased (perhaps on credit) by the distributor/shop so that would be stealing from the shop, causing them a loss. Not ok.
@Rayquaza2510 Nintendo are probably the only ones that DO have the right to download all their titles from ROM sites. No crime being committed by them there!
@Rayquaza2510 The difference here is 'buy a game'. That's kind of an important factor... And the copy for personal use is questionable where it means breaking copy protection.
@Crono1973 Chrono Trigger has been released on lots of platforms, you can buy it on Steam right now. If you want to buy the SNES ROM image, speak to Square Enix.
I bought two CD-Rs packed with SNES games in 1998. If I can find the CDs and they haven't succumbed to disc rot, then they should continue to exist, even after the internet is taken down.. Problem solved.
Seems a bit odd, they've been breaking the law for the best part of two decades and I don't understand why they've been able to get away with it for so long... Nintendo could have gone after them at any point, why are they worried now?
@holygeez03 Agree, I had been hoping for a new Captain Toad game with a whole new set of levels. Throw in the original game as a bonus and I'd have no question throwing forty quid Ninty's way...
It doesn't matter to me what they do or don't reveal at a games show. It could be 45 minutes of Reggie sipping a pint whilst reading the paper for all I care. It only matters that games come out that I want to play...
They don't seem to like Bayonetta in Japan any more. The original sold ok, but the second sold quite poorly on Wii U as well - only 38k in week 1 (still up on Switch).
Curious to know how a company with revenues of ~$64M in the past year is involved in a $150M acquisition. Sounds like they'll be borrowing heavily to fund this?
I was about to complain about how much cheaper the cards are in the US compared to the UK, but I think it's showing the wrong price in $ above? I.e. $29.99 for 128GB and $49.99 for 200GB - it's $41.99 & $68.99 when you click the links...
I'm sure it will be a short-term fad, Nintendo will sell millions of them and make a fortune and then everyone will file them away in a drawer somewhere.
I predict a new Luigi's Mansion game from Next Level games to be announced this year, based on how well the last one was received (and sold 5M+!). They've been quiet since Federation Force but they're developing exclusively for Nintendo these days...
@hardknoc I don't know about Switch owners being had, I played more hours in my first week of Switch ownership than I've played in that past year of owning a PS4.
This just reminded me that I stopped playing Story of Seasons and need to get back into that at some point! Or should I just forget it and get this instead?
EDIT: Forgot to mention, this looks like a perfect fit for Switch(TM).
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Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@ReaderRagfish The name may say Eightbitman, but the behaviour says eight-year old boy.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
What's the alternative to taking down these ROM sites? If they continue to turn a blind eye and let people download these games for free, what does it do to the value of their back catalogue?
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Jokerwolf This has absolutely zero effect on you then, since you have all the games already? Why the complaining? And anyone who REALLY wants to get them illegally still can.
These ROM sites have been acting unlawfully whether Nintendo takes action or not, it's just that nothing would happen unless they do. They're certainly not innocent parties here, they're effectively criminal organisations!
Just a note... I ran a GBC ROM site back in the late 90s, releasing ROM images before the games had even hit the shelves in some cases. We had thousands of visitors per day. Was I right to do so? Was I hell...
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Jokerwolf I'm sure they've appointed lawyers for this, not web developers. Also, it's harder to promote the download of old games as a selling point when they're freely available all over the internet. If you want to make money selling something that only you have the right to sell or distribute, it makes sense to get rid of the illegal competition.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
Don't get me wrong, in the past I've played pretty much every SNES game as an illegally downloaded ROM. I just don't believe I had any right to, and if anything I owe Nintendo, no vice versa as some people seem to think!
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@nessisonett Unfortunately you're the exception rather than the rule. For every person looking for a backup of their purchased games, there are 10,000 looking to play something they haven't bought for free...
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Crono1973 I think they publicised it as theft to make it more understandable as a crime for the layman. But back in those days it was literally selling knock-off floppy disks and carts on market stalls...
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
If people want to break the law and download ROMs, that's their choice. I just don't understand their feeling of entitlement to do so....
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Rayquaza2510 Which bit made sense? About next doors shop selling computers?
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Crono1973 Well, they used to refer to copyright infringement as copyright theft here in the UK which served to blur the lines a little...
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Rayquaza2510 Erm, no... Those games have been purchased (perhaps on credit) by the distributor/shop so that would be stealing from the shop, causing them a loss. Not ok.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Rayquaza2510 Nintendo are probably the only ones that DO have the right to download all their titles from ROM sites. No crime being committed by them there!
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Rayquaza2510 The difference here is 'buy a game'. That's kind of an important factor... And the copy for personal use is questionable where it means breaking copy protection.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Crono1973 Well, I was referring to the binary image only, but if it makes business sense, then yeah, why not?
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Crono1973 Chrono Trigger has been released on lots of platforms, you can buy it on Steam right now. If you want to buy the SNES ROM image, speak to Square Enix.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
I bought two CD-Rs packed with SNES games in 1998. If I can find the CDs and they haven't succumbed to disc rot, then they should continue to exist, even after the internet is taken down.. Problem solved.
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
@Crono1973 Do Nintendo even own the rights to those games?
Re: Nintendo's Recent Legal Action Against ROM-Sharing Sites Scares Major Player Into Removing Downloads
Seems a bit odd, they've been breaking the law for the best part of two decades and I don't understand why they've been able to get away with it for so long... Nintendo could have gone after them at any point, why are they worried now?
Re: Latest Octopath Traveler Restock In Japan Sells Out Again
@Razer The UK has one of the lowest internet speeds? We're 15th in the world apparently, right near the top!
Re: PAW Patrol: On A Roll Brings Nickelodeon's Hit TV Series To Switch And 3DS This October
My son is going to want this, I hope it's actually good!
Re: Random: This Officially Licensed Sonic The Hedgehog Curry Makes Your Poop Blue
Weird, but the box artwork is fantastic! I'd buy it for that alone...
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Praises Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker On Both Switch And 3DS
@holygeez03 Agree, I had been hoping for a new Captain Toad game with a whole new set of levels. Throw in the original game as a bonus and I'd have no question throwing forty quid Ninty's way...
Re: Super Smash Bros. Fan Sends Threatening Email To Nintendo New York Store After Removal Of Game Kiosks
@electrolite77 Mark Owen?
Re: Hands On: Settling The Score In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
I wish I liked Smash games, maybe this will be the one I get into?
Re: Nintendo's Reggie Fils-Aimé Hits Back At Analysts After Recent Share Price Drop
It doesn't matter to me what they do or don't reveal at a games show. It could be 45 minutes of Reggie sipping a pint whilst reading the paper for all I care. It only matters that games come out that I want to play...
Re: Soapbox: Fortnite Is Coming So Nintendo Really Needs To Sort Out Its Voice Chat Problem
Voice chat sounds vulgar. I'd give it a go as long so nobody swore, then I'd be gone...
Re: Video: Watch Rafael Nadal Take On Mario In The Mario Tennis Aces Trailer
Mario's signature is awesome!
Re: Nintendo Announces Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu! and Let’s Go Eevee! For Nintendo Switch
Looks like this is aiming to capture the hearts of Pokémon Go players and introduce them to the main series of games.
Re: Nintendo Bans Online Services For Prominent Hacker's Switch Console
You want to use their service, you need to play by their rules. Fair enough.
Re: EA Has "Nothing To Announce" As Far As Burnout Paradise On Switch Is Concerned
It's out tomorrow, really want to play this - but ideally not on my PS4.
Re: Splatoon 2 Makes A Splash In The Top Three In This Week's Japanese Charts
They don't seem to like Bayonetta in Japan any more. The original sold ok, but the second sold quite poorly on Wii U as well - only 38k in week 1 (still up on Switch).
Re: THQ Nordic Acquires Deep Silver Owner Koch Media In $150 Million Deal
Curious to know how a company with revenues of ~$64M in the past year is involved in a $150M acquisition. Sounds like they'll be borrowing heavily to fund this?
Mildly concerned...
Re: Guide: The Best Nintendo Switch Micro SD Cards
I was about to complain about how much cheaper the cards are in the US compared to the UK, but I think it's showing the wrong price in $ above? I.e. $29.99 for 128GB and $49.99 for 200GB - it's $41.99 & $68.99 when you click the links...
Re: Labo's Cardboard Revolution Adds Almost $1.4 billion To Nintendo's Value
I'm sure it will be a short-term fad, Nintendo will sell millions of them and make a fortune and then everyone will file them away in a drawer somewhere.
(I'm definitely in by the way).
Re: Nintendo Is Announcing "A New Way To Play" Later Today
Will this be something utilising the infrared motion camera on the right joy-con?
Re: Video: Nintendo's Track Record With Direct Broadcasts Points to Another One Happening Very Soon
I predict a new Luigi's Mansion game from Next Level games to be announced this year, based on how well the last one was received (and sold 5M+!). They've been quiet since Federation Force but they're developing exclusively for Nintendo these days...
Re: Rumour: SEGA And Retro-Bit Might Actually Be Working On A Secret Retro Console
@carlos82 I have a Dreamcast that plays original discs and connects via VGA. That does the job for me
Re: The Food-Obsessed RPG The Snack World: Trejarers To Cook Up A Storm On Switch
Can't wait to sink my teeth into this...
Re: Super Mario Land 2 Gets a Fan-Made Colour Treatment
I own Mario Land 2 so all I need to do is dump the ROM, apply the patch, put it on some sort of backup device and I'm golden...
Wow, GB flash carts are expensive!
Re: Nintendo Has Reportedly Delayed the Roll-Out of 64GB Switch Game Cartridges
Do the Switch game cards use Mask ROM or Flash? Anyone know?
Re: Review: TINY METAL (Switch eShop)
That was enough for me to buy, looking forward to playing this tonight!
Re: Sega Dreamcast, Saturn And Mega Drive Hardware Coming From Retro-Bit in 2018
And the award for most misleading article of 2017 goes to...
Re: Random: Mother Orders Nintendo Switch From Amazon, Gets Box Of Washing Powder Instead
It's funny, I ordered some washing powder last week and they delivered a Nintendo Switch.
Re: Rainway Team Says Talks With Nintendo Over Switch Version Are "Working Out Well"
Great news for third-party Devs, they won't need to bother with Switch versions anymore!
Re: Review: L.A. Noire (Switch)
@hardknoc I don't know about Switch owners being had, I played more hours in my first week of Switch ownership than I've played in that past year of owning a PS4.
Re: Video: Gear.Club Unlimited Gets New Trailer And Altered Release Date
Looks gorgeous and enjoyed Test Drive Unlimited from these guys, may well check it out!
Re: Cat Quest Tentatively Positioned for a November Launch
Looks like a purr-fect fit for the Switch.
Re: Stardew Valley Arrives on the Switch eShop This Week
This just reminded me that I stopped playing Story of Seasons and need to get back into that at some point! Or should I just forget it and get this instead?
EDIT: Forgot to mention, this looks like a perfect fit for Switch(TM).
Re: SNES Classic Mini Consoles Spotted In The Wild Ahead Of Official Release
@panthro Generous giveaway but I couldn't enter in good faith considering I've got one on the way from Amazon France...
Re: Video: The Game Devil PRO-S Is A Cheap Alternative to the Official Switch Pro Controller
£38 with missing features only succeeds in making the price of the Official Pro controller seem reasonable!