@Einherjar So we've established that we agree that this comes from a lack of effort on Nintendo's part? I think we've made great progress here.
Look, it's not like I can't handle the fact that I can't play SNES games on my old 3DS. I shrugged it off as a 'meh' as it was announced. I just can't believe that their PR statement is %100 true.
@Einherjar That phenomena you mentioned, we're literally having that conversation right now. What difference is it making having SNES games run exclusively on n3DS? If that's the strongest argument against it, it's a moot point.
People don't complain about Xenoblade because they can believe that it won't run on an old 3DS. People do complain about SNES VC because they can't believe that absolutely no SNES games can run on an old 3DS.
I'd also like to point out that Smash actually doesn't support the CPP.
@Chunky_Droid How in any way would that be more alienating? Please explain.
By the way, no, I wouldn't be complaining about that. If I can understand why something can't be done, I wouldn't bother arguing about it because nothing can be done about it.
@Chunky_Droid I never said that the old 3DS could emulate all SNES games, in fact if you read my comment you'd have seen that I said that it would be fine if the SNES games that are known to not run efficiently on an old 3DS were made exclusive to the new 3DS.
But there are a decent handful of games that can indeed be played with no noticeable issues on an old 3DS, running on an emulator made by hobbyists with no monetary gain. Surely the company who made the SNES and the 3DS, the one that understands each systems' architecture the most, would be competent enough to publish at least some SNES games that are compatible with old and new 3DS models.
Nope. Don't buy it. If emulators can run a bunch of SNES games near perfectly on an old 3DS, Nintendo could do it even better if they'd just given it a bit of effort.
As a worst case, they could compromise by making SOME SNES games n3DS exclusive (the ones that used the Super FX chip, for example), but there's absolutely NO reason why I can't play Super Mario World legally on my old 3DS when I can run it flawlessly through homebrew.
-Nokonoko Plains: 5278-0000-001D-7941 -Buzzy Beetle Bunker: 5627-0000-001D-7D10 -Everything has wings!:C60B-0000-001D-8184 -Bowser Jr.'s Flame Fort: 350C-0000-001D-8B9F -Wigglers in the Treetops: 70DE-0000-0036-9159 -Rosalina's Space Adventure: 3F5D-0000-003C-3231 -Underwater Blues: A1B6-0000-0046-33E5 -Bowser's Troops Invade Toad Town: 6624-0000-004C-BBBE -Airships and Towers and Koopas: E67C-0000-005C-1208 -House of Magikoopa: BC71-0000-005C-C985 -Yoshi likes to Stomp on Chomps: C78A-0000-0080-AE73 -Hard Hat Hollow: 2C54-0000-0083-8581 -Big Jumps are the Key!: A6AF-0000-005C-C9DC -NSMB5: Clone Tag Team 1-1 Remake: 421D-0000-0080-AEA6 -NSMB5: CTT 1-Airship Remake: EB14-0000-0080-AECB -NSMB5: Clone Tag Team 5-4 Remake: 7D7D-0000-0080-AEF5 -Not Another Automatic Level: 81C5-0000-0085-7981 -Infiltrating Koopa Keep: 31C0-0000-0091-5B27 -NSMB5: CTT2 Mushroom Plains: 0E54-0000-0094-FC85 There are more on my user page.
I think it must be a pretty big coincidence that so many character rumors for the Smash Ballot are happening now. Shovel Knight, Prof. Layton, Shantae, all of these rumors have been given fairly strong hints from someone behind the scenes, particularly Shovel Knight and Shantae.
Ah, the nostalgias. It's still my favorite game, not because it was the first of its kind, but because it was a collect-a-thon Mario platformer that didn't need to tack on any extra features or outlandish themes like later 3D Mario platformers.
When the next 3D Mario game comes out, I just want it be a collectathon that goes back to the simplicity of Mario 64, just enhanced with the capabilities of modern hardware.
If you think Bob-Omb Battlefield in 1996 was a sandbox, boy, imagine what a sandbox Mario level would be like in 2015!
@allav866 I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was scared of that fish. I got eaten by it the second or third time I visited the level and spent almost six years downright refusing to play that level again.
It took me less time to grow the balls to confront the Final Boss again.
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Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar So we've established that we agree that this comes from a lack of effort on Nintendo's part? I think we've made great progress here.
Look, it's not like I can't handle the fact that I can't play SNES games on my old 3DS. I shrugged it off as a 'meh' as it was announced. I just can't believe that their PR statement is %100 true.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar That phenomena you mentioned, we're literally having that conversation right now. What difference is it making having SNES games run exclusively on n3DS? If that's the strongest argument against it, it's a moot point.
People don't complain about Xenoblade because they can believe that it won't run on an old 3DS.
People do complain about SNES VC because they can't believe that absolutely no SNES games can run on an old 3DS.
I'd also like to point out that Smash actually doesn't support the CPP.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Sticker Do people complain that Xenoblade is New 3DS exclusive? Or how their old 3DS has no C-stick for Smash Bros./Majora's Mask?
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Chunky_Droid How in any way would that be more alienating? Please explain.
By the way, no, I wouldn't be complaining about that. If I can understand why something can't be done, I wouldn't bother arguing about it because nothing can be done about it.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Chunky_Droid I never said that the old 3DS could emulate all SNES games, in fact if you read my comment you'd have seen that I said that it would be fine if the SNES games that are known to not run efficiently on an old 3DS were made exclusive to the new 3DS.
But there are a decent handful of games that can indeed be played with no noticeable issues on an old 3DS, running on an emulator made by hobbyists with no monetary gain. Surely the company who made the SNES and the 3DS, the one that understands each systems' architecture the most, would be competent enough to publish at least some SNES games that are compatible with old and new 3DS models.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Chunky_Droid Uh, yeah they can.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
Nope. Don't buy it. If emulators can run a bunch of SNES games near perfectly on an old 3DS, Nintendo could do it even better if they'd just given it a bit of effort.
As a worst case, they could compromise by making SOME SNES games n3DS exclusive (the ones that used the Super FX chip, for example), but there's absolutely NO reason why I can't play Super Mario World legally on my old 3DS when I can run it flawlessly through homebrew.
Re: Miitomo, Nintendo's First Smartphone Game, Is Delayed Until March 2016
Personally, this is a sigh of relief for me. An essential Nintendo game on a smartphone is almost blasphemy.
Re: Nintendo Has Unannounced Wii U And 3DS Titles Ready For Launch Before The Year End
@Zelda_Rocks ..."coming exclusively to iOS and Android"
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Re: Video: We Want Your Super Mario Maker Levels for Our New YouTube Series
-Nokonoko Plains: 5278-0000-001D-7941
-Buzzy Beetle Bunker: 5627-0000-001D-7D10
-Everything has wings!:C60B-0000-001D-8184
-Bowser Jr.'s Flame Fort: 350C-0000-001D-8B9F
-Wigglers in the Treetops: 70DE-0000-0036-9159
-Rosalina's Space Adventure: 3F5D-0000-003C-3231
-Underwater Blues: A1B6-0000-0046-33E5
-Bowser's Troops Invade Toad Town: 6624-0000-004C-BBBE
-Airships and Towers and Koopas: E67C-0000-005C-1208
-House of Magikoopa: BC71-0000-005C-C985
-Yoshi likes to Stomp on Chomps: C78A-0000-0080-AE73
-Hard Hat Hollow: 2C54-0000-0083-8581
-Big Jumps are the Key!: A6AF-0000-005C-C9DC
-NSMB5: Clone Tag Team 1-1 Remake: 421D-0000-0080-AEA6
-NSMB5: CTT 1-Airship Remake: EB14-0000-0080-AECB
-NSMB5: Clone Tag Team 5-4 Remake: 7D7D-0000-0080-AEF5
-Not Another Automatic Level: 81C5-0000-0085-7981
-Infiltrating Koopa Keep: 31C0-0000-0091-5B27
-NSMB5: CTT2 Mushroom Plains: 0E54-0000-0094-FC85
There are more on my user page.
Re: Rumour: Fresh Sources Suggest Shovel Knight Is Indeed Digging His Way To Super Smash Bros.
I think it must be a pretty big coincidence that so many character rumors for the Smash Ballot are happening now. Shovel Knight, Prof. Layton, Shantae, all of these rumors have been given fairly strong hints from someone behind the scenes, particularly Shovel Knight and Shantae.
I personally hope for all three of those guys.
Re: Mario History: Super Mario 64 - 1996
Ah, the nostalgias. It's still my favorite game, not because it was the first of its kind, but because it was a collect-a-thon Mario platformer that didn't need to tack on any extra features or outlandish themes like later 3D Mario platformers.
When the next 3D Mario game comes out, I just want it be a collectathon that goes back to the simplicity of Mario 64, just enhanced with the capabilities of modern hardware.
If you think Bob-Omb Battlefield in 1996 was a sandbox, boy, imagine what a sandbox Mario level would be like in 2015!
Re: Mario History: Super Mario 64 - 1996
@allav866 I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was scared of that fish. I got eaten by it the second or third time I visited the level and spent almost six years downright refusing to play that level again.
It took me less time to grow the balls to confront the Final Boss again.