I've been around the block; done the "Phone call to Miiverse Admins rodeo"; written on blogs and commiserated with fellow users. The perma-ban and severe moderation are rotten to the core. Young people, "family-friendly" sure, if you draw a giant ding-dong that's one thing, but now people have been reduced to writing disclaimers on their forum posts to the admins in hopes of not being banned.
I once wrote, "Admins, this is not hateful. This is a discussion about XYZ." You know what happened? The admin threw that in my face, deleted the post, and banned me.
It's probably not possible with their personnel size for the admins to review every single complaint/infraction etc., but when they do, they do a fairly ham-fisted job. Otherwise, they have to do it robotically, in bulk, without context and then seldom reverse themselves.
If you choose to use MV (a privilege), the punishments for being moderated are very severe, including being cut off permanently from peer groups, since outside interaction is forbidden as one of the first rules. The hair-trigger moderation is a whole other issue. When they do get involved, it's a zero-sum game. Every small ding brings you closer to a lifetime ban.
So you don't have to use Miiverse, but the temptation is there, you enter the fray and do some free promotion for Nintendo, and then they toss your charred husk onto a funeral pyre.
I made a policy recommendation concerning Miiverse "perma-bans". The "perma" is far too severe in most cases - responsible use of the forum and context are not evaluated when admins deny forum privileges.
Alternatives exist, such as different-length ban periods, fines, correspondence, fact-finding, and use of more neutral guidelines when determining bans. Phone calls with administrators are far too unpleasant and embarrassing to have to argue for favorable outcomes.
My last phone call to administrator "Miss R." was about my being banned for saying "Root Beer" and drawing a root beer stein. The call ended up in a no-kidding shouting match. The admin talking over me, condescension, just utter nonsense. Far, far too stupid an experience.
They [the companies] can take away other rights.
Any privilege granted can be revoked. That's because it's a privilege, and not a right. A great example is Miiverse.
Physical all the way.
ANOTHER reason dl'd games are less than optimal (suck) is because you lose them all when Nintendo bans your a$$ from Miiverse. Or was that even mentioned already?
@Finntendo Hopefully, people are still allowed to discipline their kids in Europe. 800 Euros gone? Yeah, that's a whoopin' and no presents for birthday/Christmas for the next two years.
Hats off to the author (and the tipster) for making such a good article happen.
America has thousands upon thousands of laws already and doesn't need another, "You can't, you can't," codfied into law. Where would you stop? You know the kind of ads going on during kids' shows.
However, this kind of guidance is good. Unfortunately, the UK's amount of specious, overblown and unnecessary law-making makes it nearly impossible to live. "Wanna take a dump? You need to A,B, and C first, and make sure you're not offending anyone, etc. etc. ad nauseam.)
I have a controversial opinion on the change in Update 3.0 preventing team kills: It's going to affect close-quarters battle in a negative way. The change should not be made!! Reason: aiming with precision and choosing carefully is more desirable for realism and emphaisizing skill. When 2 or 3 are ganging up on 1 player from three bearings, in the way things are, the poor schmoe in the middle could have some hope of escaping; people choose carefully as to not hit a teammate and suffer a point deduction. In Update 3.0, everyone will be spamming torpedoes with reckless abandon, skill is deemphasized. Strategy and fine-tuning should remain the dominant feature, now we'll get derp, and I also won't be able to send any more love notes back if someone friendly fires on me. P.S.: JOIN FLUFFY CLAN FTW.
"Be prepared to deal with international norms, equality, repercussions, etc. blah blah blah whack whack." Pansies! Sounds like some people around here have a massive head trauma case of, "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!"
Doom and gloom, the end is nigh. I hate to be so dramatic, but the Update 2.0 two play coin requirement for internet multiplayer (non-premium) could fall on its face. In other words, they are really turning the thumb screws for people to buy the game, but I guess Nintendo really researched the market and said, "Damn the torpedoes..."
I second everything Klimbatize said, and third everything Noonch said. What I would really like to see is more than one new multiplayer arena. I'm glad they're taking time they need to get the update out instead of rushing.
Ack. Annoying as hell. Normal notifications will get drowned out because of the flood of new ones. Also, if I need translation support for a post, three extra clicks are now needed for me move to the post, copy the post, and return to the original. TOO MUCH STUFF. The simpler, the better.
Greetings, comrades. I hope this update includes multiple map-Ssuh, plural, but I'll be grateful for any new add ons, and hope more updates are on the way.
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Re: Nintendo Gets Tough With Miiverse Bans, and Some Users Aren't Exactly Pleased
All fun and commentary aside, I'm trying to figure out if a 3DS perma-ban is now actually a console ban. Did anyone interpret that as being the case?
Re: Nintendo Gets Tough With Miiverse Bans, and Some Users Aren't Exactly Pleased
"Most complainers are the ones who abuse the flaw in the banning system to begin with, they have no one to blame but themselves"
Yeah, tell that to your buddy King George III.
Re: Nintendo Gets Tough With Miiverse Bans, and Some Users Aren't Exactly Pleased
I've been around the block; done the "Phone call to Miiverse Admins rodeo"; written on blogs and commiserated with fellow users. The perma-ban and severe moderation are rotten to the core. Young people, "family-friendly" sure, if you draw a giant ding-dong that's one thing, but now people have been reduced to writing disclaimers on their forum posts to the admins in hopes of not being banned.
I once wrote, "Admins, this is not hateful. This is a discussion about XYZ." You know what happened? The admin threw that in my face, deleted the post, and banned me.
It's probably not possible with their personnel size for the admins to review every single complaint/infraction etc., but when they do, they do a fairly ham-fisted job. Otherwise, they have to do it robotically, in bulk, without context and then seldom reverse themselves.
If you choose to use MV (a privilege), the punishments for being moderated are very severe, including being cut off permanently from peer groups, since outside interaction is forbidden as one of the first rules. The hair-trigger moderation is a whole other issue. When they do get involved, it's a zero-sum game. Every small ding brings you closer to a lifetime ban.
So you don't have to use Miiverse, but the temptation is there, you enter the fray and do some free promotion for Nintendo, and then they toss your charred husk onto a funeral pyre.
I made a policy recommendation concerning Miiverse "perma-bans". The "perma" is far too severe in most cases - responsible use of the forum and context are not evaluated when admins deny forum privileges.
Alternatives exist, such as different-length ban periods, fines, correspondence, fact-finding, and use of more neutral guidelines when determining bans. Phone calls with administrators are far too unpleasant and embarrassing to have to argue for favorable outcomes.
My last phone call to administrator "Miss R." was about my being banned for saying "Root Beer" and drawing a root beer stein. The call ended up in a no-kidding shouting match. The admin talking over me, condescension, just utter nonsense. Far, far too stupid an experience.
Re: Talking Point: The Fragility of Buying Download Games
They [the companies] can take away other rights.
Any privilege granted can be revoked. That's because it's a privilege, and not a right. A great example is Miiverse.
Physical all the way.
Re: Talking Point: The Fragility of Buying Download Games
ANOTHER reason dl'd games are less than optimal (suck) is because you lose them all when Nintendo bans your a$$ from Miiverse. Or was that even mentioned already?
Re: Don't Worry Colour-Blind Gamers, Splatoon Has Got Your Back
@Stitches et al.
I'm color-blind as schnitzel. (Red-green color deficient, sorryyyyy.)
Monster Manor on the Street Pass suite is the WORST. Can't tell orange from green, green from red, nor yellow from yellow-green.
A lot more guys have this issue than one might think. Good move, Nintendo.
Re: Comic Workshop Update on the Way to "Mark the Comeback of Screenshot Posts to Miiverse"
#MIILIVESMATTER
The moderation on Miiverse is way too heavy-handed. The perma-bans should expire after a month unless someone is posting pr0n or something obscene.
The place is full of people who make report-bombing a sport, and the moderation should be relaxed.
Re: Here's Why The StreetPass Bunny Couldn't Care Less If You Don't Buy His Games In Europe
@Finntendo Hopefully, people are still allowed to discipline their kids in Europe. 800 Euros gone? Yeah, that's a whoopin' and no presents for birthday/Christmas for the next two years.
Re: Here's Why The StreetPass Bunny Couldn't Care Less If You Don't Buy His Games In Europe
Hats off to the author (and the tipster) for making such a good article happen.
America has thousands upon thousands of laws already and doesn't need another, "You can't, you can't," codfied into law. Where would you stop? You know the kind of ads going on during kids' shows.
However, this kind of guidance is good. Unfortunately, the UK's amount of specious, overblown and unnecessary law-making makes it nearly impossible to live. "Wanna take a dump? You need to A,B, and C first, and make sure you're not offending anyone, etc. etc. ad nauseam.)
Re: Don't Seethe Too Much Over Xbox One Shovel Knight Getting Battletoads, We Might Get A Cool Crossover, Too
Is it time to start calling GameStop for Battle Toads yet
Re: Review: Sky Kid (Wii U eShop / NES)
Did reviewer ever play original back in the day?
DID HE?
This game is good shiat. Totally worth 5 bucks.
VC deserves more titles and SNES games!
Re: Swedish Newspaper Questions The European Release Of Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson
boobs
Re: Saints Row Design Director Was Working On An Open-World Wii U Game
Nice thug life cover to that game. I'd shiatcan that garbage in a heartbeat too.
Re: The Legend of Zelda New Nintendo 3DS Cover Plates Now Up For Pre-Order From Official UK Store, Out Now Elsewhere
N nailed a good design with the gold Link Btwn Worlds 3ds. I love mine. So what if I load a little slower. No thanks.
Re: Review: Blaster Master (Wii U eShop / NES)
So I'm guessing no turbo B or slo-mo...
Def onboard with the " greatest 8bit tunes ever" comment.
Re: New River City Ransom Game Announced For The Japanese 3DS
The independent RCRU is still updating their [fantastic] Kickstarter page. About 6 mos. delayed.
This sequel news is very confusing. I thought we'd heard the last of Kunio-kun outside of Conatus Creative's project.
Re: Video: Here's How amiibo Works With Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors And Smash Bros. Wii U
Did Nintendo pay off Skylanders for the concept?
It seems Skylanders will be out of business before long, thanks to Nintendo.
Re: Review: Secret Journeys: Cities of the World (3DS eShop)
Card-carrying iSpot Japan lover right here. Thanks for the review. Good to know this one is lacking, so I won't waste my cash.
Re: Nintendo Shows Off 38 "Kisekae Plate" Changeable Covers For New Nintendo 3DS
In my day, we had customization too. We called these things stickers or decals, and they were cheap.
Re: Somebody At Ubisoft Really Doesn't Like Mario Kart 8's Mercedes-Benz DLC
The Benz doesn't look like it belongs. On the bright side, at least they didn't do a Beemer. That's a real azzhole car.
Re: Steel Diver: Sub Wars Version 3.0 in Development for August Release
I have a controversial opinion on the change in Update 3.0 preventing team kills: It's going to affect close-quarters battle in a negative way. The change should not be made!! Reason: aiming with precision and choosing carefully is more desirable for realism and emphaisizing skill. When 2 or 3 are ganging up on 1 player from three bearings, in the way things are, the poor schmoe in the middle could have some hope of escaping; people choose carefully as to not hit a teammate and suffer a point deduction. In Update 3.0, everyone will be spamming torpedoes with reckless abandon, skill is deemphasized. Strategy and fine-tuning should remain the dominant feature, now we'll get derp, and I also won't be able to send any more love notes back if someone friendly fires on me. P.S.: JOIN FLUFFY CLAN FTW.
Re: Review: Senran Kagura Burst (3DS eShop)
"Be prepared to deal with international norms, equality, repercussions, etc. blah blah blah whack whack." Pansies! Sounds like some people around here have a massive head trauma case of, "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!"
Re: Steel Diver Version 2.0 Delayed, Now Targeting Early June
Doom and gloom, the end is nigh. I hate to be so dramatic, but the Update 2.0 two play coin requirement for internet multiplayer (non-premium) could fall on its face. In other words, they are really turning the thumb screws for people to buy the game, but I guess Nintendo really researched the market and said, "Damn the torpedoes..."
We shall see...
Re: Review: Super Castlevania IV (Wii Virtual Console / Super Nintendo)
I don't understand why this and other SNES classics can't be made more available on the 3ds vice the WiiU.
Re: Steel Diver Version 2.0 Delayed, Now Targeting Early June
I second everything Klimbatize said, and third everything Noonch said. What I would really like to see is more than one new multiplayer arena. I'm glad they're taking time they need to get the update out instead of rushing.
Re: Feature: Tomodachi Life Is The Game Your Mii Has Been Waiting For Since 2006
Blah blah blah, gay blah blah blah.
Re: Miiverse Update Changes Profiles in New User Page, Adds a Couple of Extra Features
Ack. Annoying as hell. Normal notifications will get drowned out because of the flood of new ones. Also, if I need translation support for a post, three extra clicks are now needed for me move to the post, copy the post, and return to the original. TOO MUCH STUFF. The simpler, the better.
Re: Club Nintendo Rewards Updated for May, Physical Items Return
Why no Hanafuda decks?
Re: Interview: A Look Through the Periscope at Steel Diver: Sub Wars
Greetings, comrades. I hope this update includes multiple map-Ssuh, plural, but I'll be grateful for any new add ons, and hope more updates are on the way.