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@samuelvictor what gets me is what was AMD's bid?
NVidia X2 with a fast Cpu means "Near Neo" power
don't forget, new chips can do more with less CUs

and Bayonetta 2 was running on a WII U, not PS4.

@The_Dude_Abides its a poor escuse but it also has some serious implications.

@BiasedSonyFan don't forget, there was a change of plans in a holiday 16 release to a march 17...

likely X2 is incorporated because they wont need to cool the chip vs the X1 prototype dev kits.

@ThanosReXXX with a fact CPU the NX will run better than the base PS4 with many 3rd part releases.

@The_Dude_Abides its also a legal minefield

and when you talk business anti consumer gets trumped by legal fees, fines persecution and even the possibility of bans.

@samuelvictor actually, it was more the problem with ecosystems, plus the NX will attract PS4 and XBX1 gamers if they think Scorpio and Neo is not for them.

@Grumblevolcano but heres the thing, NEO is not the PS5
people have gotten sick of modern gaming and became retro gamers.
so the landscape has changed, hell, consoles might lose to mobile chips after all...

@Alshain01 polaris Vega is Polariis 10 GPUs by AMD
what Scorpio was rumoured to have.

@Ephidel don't forget Splatoon, SSB NX.. with wireless pro pad link up...

@SharkAttackU nice touch, I prefer that design over the wii U gamepad.

@The_Dude_Abidesi'd likely wont care... region locking is gonna be decided unless there's legal issues.

@Alshain01 "Business politics. Nvidia knows their competitor is killing them in the market right now, if they want to get back in the market, they will bend over backwards for Nintendo to do it. That could mean technical assistance, or even price cuts on the chips. If AMD can't or won't compete, Nintendo will go with Nvidia.

I'm not sold that the rumor is true, but I wouldn't discount it just because of history with AMD.
"

what I was referring to

@samuelvictor I've given up all hope for modern gaming so the NX is just what I need, and I suspect with a booming retro games market will buy the NX also,

its a handheld basically.

@The_Dude_Abides it practically has a handheld base... and Nintendo rarely change the handhelds BC for the hell of it...

I hope 2TB SDXC is supported on NX

@Grumblevolcano personally I find the idea absurd, but you know graphics whores common sense is something they ignore...

I'm like sorta sick at all these rumours but rampant speculation is fun I guess
i mean, every one is doing it... I'm just shooting down the cynics that's all.

@HammerKirby go ahead, I dont care
if you want to act like that please leave...

as for me, I've given up on modern gaming...

@Zeldafanforlife no i didnt, you remember the site called Semi accurate? well, its a paid subscription site talking about Nintendo's next handheld bidding war.

@Alshain01 yes, I did, NVidia outbid AMD so... that's it.

@MrGawain yes...

@televisions its a handheld, what do you expect...

@BiasedSonyFan I'm talking about Mobile.

@Grumblevolcano which is what Nintendo is doing...
carts hold more than the wii U BD so its an evolution hell, imagine 64GB carts...

@Kirk that makes sense, the handheld is on par or greater than a PS4 so if Nintendo has a console (base station)
you get the picture.

@BiasedSonyFan unless the opposition is mobile...

then having X2 makes sense and its even stronger than current gen consoles, geez no one seems to understand that a modern architecture are smarter, efficient, and optimized vs brute force inefficient chips used in XBX1 and PS4
this all reminds me of Geno's rumours.

@rjejr as always, THE VITAL INFO IS NEVER LEAKED...

@televisions not really, ARM64 and X86 are easy to port over,
the whole reason PS4 and XBX1 went X86 over ARM was that ARM64 didn't exist.

@Grumblevolcano actually, that wouldn't make sense, the wii U is dead and the NX now needs to carry that torch with being a hybrid. likely that AMD was unable to supply a win on the hybrid front,
and what if the NX is multiple form factors?
despite that, NVidia was showing something state of the art.. so power = XBX1 is false, this isn't stock chips... these are semicustom and modern chips don't follow the (power is everything ethos, they are resource managers the devs just wont be able to strong arm the NX at all.)

@Captain_Toad of course, the leaks are based of prototypes.
not the current dev kits

@kantaroo that makes 0 sense, its better to have an X2 in the unit over the SCD.

the SCD might house a Polaris chip...

and X2 is likely ARM64 which is closer to parity with X86 architecture.

@Rect_Pola Digital will transfer over that is all... unless NNID isn't used...

@DualWielding the prototypes devs have have built in fans with X1

X2 creates less heat. common symptom of power in efficiency...

@Alshain01 that means Polaris Vega level GPU...

@Grumblevolcano that makes no sense, AMD was undercut bad by NVidia... on the bidding.

@Grumblevolcano Nintendo owns the handhelds, 60 million to 3ds vs 40 million to ps4 and 20 million to xbx1

stop thinking like a hardcore gamer...

@samuelvictor its most likely X2+
NVidia were DESPARATE!

@DualWielding tegra x2 at least is power efficient,
so either this destroys Polaris 11 or something else is going on...

@kantaroo however the tech is smart, can work to the metal and produce gems thanks to the mastery of old tech...

so its even easier to code for than PS4 and XBX1

@PtM so... X2 is guaranteed?
NVidia would've had AMD to go against...

but what about the 3 design wins of AMD? unless, the dock is the design win...

@Grumblevolcano no doubt, this means, tablet devs are gonna be on board, hell, Japan devs will like this (SEGA on board)
the question is what AMD showed to Nintendo in the bidding wars, I mean, they got outbid by NVidia.

@phunnbaba but a larger screen means games like SSBNX will become portable advertisements

@Zeldafanforlife AMD got undercut by Nvidia

so serious power in a handheld... it'll counter a lot of gamers in general
I mean, they ALREADY OWN PS4 and XBX1
why would they buy Scorpio or NEO?

@Wolfgabe too many hardcore gamers underestimating a desparate NVidia and Nintendo...

this NX will light the charts on fire!!

@PtM its a tablet
hint hint

@Piersen personally, I see 3 SKUS

10K talked about this possibility, whatever, we are so close to the official reveal, expect more theories like this....

@A01 actually, not really In fact, not at all... the idea has legs and that's what counts.

@kobashi100 you are joking right? they are detatchable

@blaisedinsd you don't understand the concept be because its disrupting the mobile market...

@WiltonRoots but, we have to see if any of these rumours have bear fruit...

@day what the heck is a mini quad?

@Judgedean see you...