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@IceRod Why would I want a blu ray player? PS4 has all of the streaming services that offer thousands of movies free in HD and HDX and your ultraviolet library. Also you can rent movies from netflix, epix, sony unlimited and so on.

And on PS3 you can't get all of the PS4 games I get on PS plus. Many are only offered on PS4. So in this 1 year I will accumulate probably at least 30 free PS4 games. That alone pays for the console being that I bought 2 and sold one already and so it only cost me $200 from my pocket top begin with.

You don't NEED to buy any console, you can always stick to one or older ones of course. But I love to be able to choose from all of the best games each year so I get the new ones ASAP and I have 550+ PC games on steam which I could never finish before I die, so its not about having things to play, I just love to be able to play the latest games.

When I talk to PC gamers they all laugh at my consoles telling me how much better graphics are on PC and how there's 100 PC to each 1 console game. Its a joke they act as if I don't also have a PC. So I can play both sides and enjoy both.

I don't take sides in those arguments. I have a gaming PC, a PS4, a Wii U. When a good game is out on any of them I can get it and enjoy it, not argue "Hey my Mario 3D World is better than your new Metal gear game..so I will never get that system, I am loyal to this one and sticking with it" — that's idiotic.

I compare my systems and games, give opinion on improvements that need to be made, but no I am not taking sides of any, just tell it how it is.

@LunaticPandora I'm not mad at all, just disappointed in the Wii U up to now. Mario 3d World is awesome so I am really having fun with it, but overall its been a dismal 1st year for the console and I let it be known so that hopefully they see their fans/customers are disappointed and improve.

Til then I will be enjoying Mario world, my new PS4 and my hundreds of PC games, no reason to be angry, but its always good to give opinion and let companies know if you are satisfied or not satisfied.

@JaxonH I could care less about handheld games. I bought their console which should be their priority. Thats the problem with Nintendo for years now, they are focusing on little kids and on the handheld market. Its like me saying the new Final fantasy games on iphone/android are amazing. Console gamers don't care..... They want the true sequel on console.

Nintendo has to step it up on Wii U. I think the zelda will be great, just was saying, I am not happy to get wind waker on the Wii U, while they make new games for handheld.....its stupid.

@NintendoFTW1999 Sorry that isnt on Wii U.... I said right in my post "forget handhelds" I guess you didn't even finish reading the one sentence post or have reading comprehension problems.

@IceRod Like I said I have PC, Wii U and PS4, I have them all, so I don't need to try to convince anybody what 1 to get, only poor kids do that. I just give my opinion about each one that I own.

I mentioned PS4 many times this week because its new and something to compare to the Wii U and so many articles talking about how PS4 and XB1 already outsold Wii U's yearly sales in 2-3 days. So of course I am mentioning PS4 lately, its a hot topic.

I also mentioned Mario 3d world in every post all week, its a great game, a hot topic and its Wii U....

And for PC I mentioned the great bundle of pinball tables you can get, only $1-5 to own 20-40 of the zen pinball tables that normally would cost much more.

See, I enjoy every platform that i have and talk about them all, I am not busy just defending only 1 of them like many here.

@faint Yes you own them forever, you own them. Read about it here: http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/

And look at some of the games. They are games that cost $30-40 many of them. Many are brand new and even exclusives.

Also the PS plus membership allows every member of your family to play the game online, offline, and get all the benefits of being a member.

Nintendo is just a joke when it comes to value compared to this deal. That's what i've been trying to tell you.

It is normally $50 a year(still very cheap for all you get), but it is on sale for $30 a year for black friday.

And stop lying please, for $30 you can't get anything from Nintendo. What the wii tennis and bowling for $20 and then a $10 indie game? Wow 3 games dude!!! I can get 40+ from the Ps plus for the same $30.

@faint DUDE LEARN TO READ!!!!

PS Plus is $30 A YEAR!!!! ONE YEAR!!! that means it is only a little more than $2 a month. You get 3-4 games on every console you own PS3, PS4, VITA. So it could be up to 12 games a month for the $2-3 you pay. YOU OWN the games and can play them as long as you own your console. Its not renting. They stay on your PSN account, so as long as you are a PS plus member, you can play them, in 5 years from now you still can play them, etc.

If you don't like any of the games one month who cares, by the end of one year you got 40-100+ games pretty much FREE!!!

I know its hard to imagine if you only have Nintendo consoles because they give you nothing free and charge you $15 for even 1 indie game lol.

This is my point here. I have steam on my PC which I have 550 games for because they almost give away indies, the ones Nintendo charges $10-15 for are 5 for $1 on PC. PS Plus is now offering all of these games per year for only $30 a ear, another excellent deal.

What is nintendo offering? NOTHING FREE or cheap!!

I want a new zelda game. All of these remakes, handheld versions and books and crap, bring me the WIi U ZELDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ShadowFox254 I have FFXIV right now for PC and its pretty nice. It will be on PS4 soon with even more enhanced graphics for both which is crazy because it looks so nice already.

EQ Next is also coming soon and is free on pc and PS4.

Nintendo needs to add MMOS to their machine and more free content to keep up with the others. Lets see what happens with DQX

You can just use free apps on your computer or phone/tablet and they have more features. Thats why I didn't buy this app on Wii U, it should really be free.

@faint What? I am saying for even 1 player games you need 3+ types of controllers for Wii U. Many games require wiimotes or nunchuks or pro controllers and none of those come with the console. The balance board also...

I know PS4 camera is extra $60, but that gives you motion control + face and voice recognition and tracks all of your movements better than even the balance board because it is taking a live view of you and your room with 2 cameras in 3D! It has precise tracking of movements and distance, etc. It will not weigh you, but can do everything al of the other Wii u controllers can do and more all in one.

I have Sonic vs mario sochi olympics on Wii U and you need a wiimote and nunchuk and gamepad. It uses all 3 and gamepad alone cant be used for many of the events. I am not talking about for 2 player games even. Then for virtual console or wii VC many need the Wii/Wii U pro controllers also.

I started out with 5 games all free on PS4 day 1. Contrast, resoGun, Warframe, DC universe online, Blacklight Retribution. On top of that it had a big library of great games to buy. They even gave us $10 in credit to buy more games and a free month of PS plus. many games also come with 7 days of plus too.

Why is Wii U more expensive? Because PS PLUS($30 a year) gives you 3-4 games FREE each month man. That means I will have 40-50 free games in 1 year. Wii U offers nothing free. And if I do ever get a VITA it will also give me 3-4 games free per month for that system too all included in $30 a year membership. What can you get for $30 a year on Wii U? 1 game or 2 old VC titles or indies, its laughable in comparison.

I don't see how you can't understand this?

@ShadowFox254

I am patient, but 0 RPGs in 1 year already is just bad. I think this next year will be nice though, I am happy with Super mario 3d for right now.

Dragon quest X online came out a long time ago in 2012 on wii and 2013 Wii U but only in japan. I wanted that game, but by the time it comes out here.... probably wont be worth it since tons of other online mmos are coming.

@ShadowFox254 And none of them are on Wii U in 1 year so far.... thats my point.

@element187 Hey buddy, I own 5 games on PS4, all are 1080p and 60FPS.... wth are you talking about lol. NBA2k 14, assasins creed IV, madden 25, fifa 14 and killzone all 60fps and 1080p and they are even advertising it on the actual game box because xbox1 cannot do that they are only in 720p mostly.

@uneek Uh no. I play PC, PS4 and Wii U. I just talk real talk.

Now, Mario 3d world, that is something to brag about its great, a game of the decade type game.

The only people that are fanboys and defend the 1 machine are poor kids that can't afford to have more than one machine for the most part. Enjoy arguing over which is best, I have all 3 to enjoy!

The problem is Nintendo makes mostly kid games when they make new IPs on console.

Where are the RPGs? NES and SNES had awesome RPGs. Where are the mario sports games, I loved tennis and golf and those mario sports games. I'm not talking about the wii sports cheap games either.

Where is a cool card game that you can play online maybe? Collect cards and battle it out.

They have so many games on handhelds, then never bring those genres to the console, they lost their focus on consoles and aim only at the handheld market.

@cactusjaq Its not our job to sell the machine. I bought it and bragged about it a year to everyone already, up to them now.

I got that mario vs sonic olympic game and 0 players are online.... its a joke really. Brand new game where the online play is a big part of it to make it more fun competing against others from around the world, its the olympics!! And can't use online play at all so far.

Super Mario 3D world is the only game that is a must have from what they listed.

Pikmin is a niche title as seen by poor sales, not many people enjoy that gameplay. wind waker is a remake, most that played it b4 don't want it, wii fit U isnt even out yet but its also a niche title aimed at overweight people.

tvii is worthless, xbox1 does what they are trying to do integrating tv and console together.

miiverse is a baby version of social sites. its fun to draw stuff while in games like mario 3d for me, but i never check the miiverse outside of games.

I would advertise "Plays games on gamepad while you are in bed/bathroom"

I'm just glad mario 3d is out, i actually use the machine. I used it in the past for amazon movies mostly, but now my PS4 has epix, ultraviolet/vudu, amazon, netflix, crunchyroll and crackle, so dont need wii u for "smrt tv" stuff anymore.

This will be out on PC for $1-4 soon steam version. They always bundle these indie games or if not then 75% off sales.

No indies are worth it on Wii U if you can get them on PC. I save the money and get things like bowling or tennis, at least they are exclusives.

He praises Nintendo for having 1 great game, but also mentions it is only 1 game and thats it.

"...One great game won’t save a console. "

"If the Wii U is your only console, you still can’t play the rest of the this year’s best games, including Grand Theft Auto V, BioShock Infinite, Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch, The Last of Us and Gone Home. You would need at least two more machines to play all of those."

I agree with him, Mario 3D world is my favorite game right now, but its just 1 game. I still need my PC and PS4 to play all the rest of the games that I must have.

@JaxonH Most of the games you mentioned are inferior games that are also on the other machines, the wii u versions have the worst graphics, missing features and missing online modes etc. You bought a ton of games I got for 1/10th the price on PC and that look and play better, so you are not a very smart shopper and showing bad examples.

The PS4 camera is used by me all day, everyday so far. You can use it in all of the games for online voice chat(yea I know if you only play nintendo machines u still dont know what online gaming is.... in 2013!! hahaha), then you can stream your games to twitch which is pretty cool and a big thing in gaming nowadays, again I guess you don't know what that is? You can use it to login, to control menus, and it will be used in many games in the future too, playroom is only a demoish type game, but they are adding 2-3 more modes to it very soon to show off more of the capabilities.

This site is not a place where everybody are blind fanboys that prefer nintendo. Many of us love nintendos great games, but also have a brain and can see their faults and also we like games on other platforms as well as Nintendo.

I have a Wii U, I am not an enemy of Nintendo, I am a realist!!! GET REAL!!!

@elstif People will buy PS4 for Metal Gear solid, kingdom hearts, final fantasy, infamous, gran turismo and many other exclusives... They have more exclusives than Nintendo by far planned for this machine and many are machine sellers. They have tons of japanese RPGs and series that people love and Nintendo does not have those. Then add in they will be getting FFXIV, EQ Next, Elder scrolls online and tons of other online mmo type games, that will attract millions more that enjoy those games. Wii U will have none of any of this.

Yes I also love Zelda, Mario games, but look in 1 year Nintendo only made 1 of them so far that is a system seller which is Mario 3D world. The Zelda they came out with is an old game with a few improvements, aka a joke when you have a "next-gen" system and you are re-releasing gamecube games as a main feature. Nintendo cannot satisfy most games, they have no RPGs, no sports games, no FPS games, no MMORPG games, no games in so many genres. They kill themselves by sticking to just kid games, family games and then the 1st party platformers mostly.

I am really happy to have my Wii U but I also can see how poorly Nintendo has done with it up to now. IDK why people on here pretend otherwise.

@JaxonH Wii U requires you to buy wiimotes, nunchucks, controller pro and all kinds of stuff to use with different games, it does not COME in the box how you stated..... They only give you a gamepad which can't be used for all games. You pay well over $60 to have every controller needed.

My Wii U, I have owned it since launch and it collected dust probably 300 of the 365 days I owned it. Right now I am playing it a lot because of Mario 3D World, but we are 1 year post launch!!!

PS4 you say yours is collecting dust? Well I play mine everyday. There are 3 F2P games on it alone that are worth playing at least once a day, I play warframe once per day, assassins creed 4, madden, fifa, killzone are the games I own and sorry I am not bored of them in 1 week, you must have a short attention span to be bored of a bunch of good games so fast or you didnt buy many games. reSogun and contrast are also worth playing too.

Yes the Camera on PS4 is a different technology, its modern and destroys the Wii U sensor bar, it was $60, but as I said the Wii U makes you invest more than that in controllers to play all the different games and its still far inferior since the movements are not even tracked correctly and it cannot do all the ps4 camera can.

You people that defend the Wii U are blind or just pretend to be, the numbers are showing how poor Nintendo has done with this machine in year 1, far too few good games, no 3rd party support, poor online features, poor advertisement, and it all adds up to the other 2 machines outselling the Wii U's yearly sales in 2-3 days......... nuff said.

@faint I have both machines, you have only Wii U and defending it like its your mother, so you are the fanboy here.. I get them all and I can give my opinion on PS4, PC(steam) and Wii U since I am comparing things I have tried and own. You have not, so shut it please.....

Why did wii sell the most? because they sold it as an exercise machine, a machine to help old people, a motion controller gimmick, a kids machine, etc. So it was bought and played by a whole bunch of new gamers and a wide audience. The Wii U is failing to have anything new to interest people that have a Wii already, so thats why its selling the least now.

You also mentioned about the cameras? The PS4 has a whole new camera man, 2 cameras that takes a 3d view of the room and is 100% precise and knows where you and the controller is at all times to the exact mm. It also has voice recognition for in game, and also to control the UI of the PS4 and even logni using face recognition, its not the old move system... they UPGRADED while Nintendo stayed with the old wii sensor bar that is horrible in accuracy.

@faint $3.49 a piece for 20 year old megaman games is not a deal lol. Most of us bought them in the past. They should be giving things like that away for free each month for us being Wii U owners. Instead they milk their fans over and over same old game that you got on NES, SNES, gamecube, Wii, now you pay again $3.49 to get it on Wii U and think its a deal?

Sony is giving away $15-40 new games 3-4 per month, every month for each of their machines that you own....

Here is an EXAMPLE FOR YOU: https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly All of the pinball tables that you can get on Wii U for Zen pinball 2, look there for PC you can get all of them, about 40+ tables for $6. Or, $1 gets you over 20 of them. Nintendo has the worst deals man.

EXAMPLE TWO: http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ Look at the top all of those games are FREE. Dragons dogma is what $40 normally that 1 game alone. Then add in the PS4 games too.

On top Nintendo has the weakest machine graphically, weakest online capabilities and worst motion/camera system too.

So, do you understand yet why its selling the least? Its most expensive to get games, weakest and offers the least games...

@faint HUh? PS4 day 1 for free they gave everyone resoGun, Contrast those are $15 games each and a $20 warframe pack DLC. On top they gave 1 month free PS pLus($5 value) and a $10 credit in PSN store to buy anything else we want.

On top of that DC universe online, warframe and blacklight retribution.

Wii U gave us only Nintendoland lol. And PS Plus will be giving 3-4 games EVERY MONTH free. Please..... Nintendo is the cheapest company of all and with the rip off prices eventhough their machine has the lowest specs and least games..... ON top of this, if you own a vita or PS3, you get 3-4 more games for each of those consoles too all for the same $30 a year. So in all you could get over 100 games a year for $30 on PS plus, nintendo cannot compete with that.

I own a Wii U and PS4 both launch day. Stop trying to tell me idk what im saying because I do. I am a gamer buying every console for probably more years than you have existed on earth.

@faint I have a Wii U since launch and a PS4 both at launch. How can anybody set me straight when I have both sitting here and play both? The indies that Wii U has for $10-15 are $1 and less on STEAM for pc gamers and come in bundles many times 4-5 of them for $1-5 total, I own them all on steam lol. Nintendo charges way too high also for the VC games like NES and SNES games they have some at $10 ridiculous.

The Wii U is good for 3-4 games a year max(1st party games). Most of the 1st party stuff is not even worth getting. But a few are must owns like Mario 3d world.

Online play on Wii U is non existent pretty much. I have the sonic & mario olympic game that just came out and 0 players are online in all events.... pathetic for 2013.

graphics and motion control are the worst on Wii U of any machine. The ps4 camera and controller work 100% precise since it sees you and the controller with cameras. So, that hurts nintendo as well, they are the worst at motion gaming which was their gimmick last gen and they still use it a lot to try to sell machines.

Nintendo has the highest prices for all "download games/indies/etc. They charge up to $15 for 20 year old games with pretty much no new features. PS Plus gave me over $60 worth of free games on launch day. Each month they hand out tons of free games to all customers for $30 a year membership. For the same $30 on Nintendo eShop you can only get one indie game, bowling and tennis pretty much. Its a total joke how much they rip people off. PS4 also has a ton of free to play online games like warframe, dc universe online and blacklight retribution now and many RPGs coming soon all free. Nintendo? NONE!

Nintendo has focused way too much on handheld and it has shown this generation where they released a machine that has little power, uses a sensor bar from the old wii and has little online play and features still compared to the others.

Nintendo can still churn out 3-4 great games a year so you must own a Wi U if you are a fan of those few, rehashed series(mario, zelda, kart, etc.) like I am, if not theres no reason to own a Wii U.

@thebigN

Playroom, Resogun, contrast are 3 free games that came with my PS4 and all are decent and different. On top of that you have DC UNiverse and other free to play games on there too. Its got a variety of games from different genres right off the bat and you get 6-7 free right away......

Sorry nintendoland is not better than that. ON top of that you have solid as hell sports games for soccer, football, basketball fans. You have incredible FPS games BF4, COD and killzone. Assassins creed 4 and so on... it is a very solid launch lineup compared to the few games Nintendo had.

I love Mario 3D world, but its the 1st game ive played in months on my Wii U. It was a bad 1st year and people are showing that with both real next gen consoles outselling Wii U within a week of launch compared to Wii U in a year.

All of the real stars are already booked in playstation and xbox commercials, Nintendo got the 3rd rate ones that do daytime soaps.

@D3athBr1ng3r187 It was an anime! game is based off that anime

@LDXD The PS4 is really nice. The UI is super smooth, has voice and face recognition. So, you login with your face even from far away its 100% precise. You can command the menus with voice or just use voice in game also. The motion/camera thing is 100x more accurate and precise than wii u, IDK why nintendo stuck with this old sensor bar thing.... Wii U is the worst motion console now and that is one of its selling points...

Right when I got PS4 before having any games bought, I had resoGun, Contrast, Warframe, Blacklight Retribution and DC Universe online all free to play. All are decent or above games too and free, Nintendo is so cheap they give us nothing free. Big plus for Sony on that and PS Plus they give you 1 month free and games come with 7 days more, so right away you have that free too. They also gave me $10 PSN credits in the box to buy anything I want for $10.

It has a few more apps than Wii U for watching movies and following sports and other stuff, music, etc. The loading and menus are much faster for everything on PS4.

Games I have are Madden, NBA2k14, assassins creed and killzone. all run 1080p and 60FPS. Impressive graphics, good gameplay on all of them. The basketball looks so real its really showing off "next gen" visuals. The rest too, but NBA looks incredible.

The PS4 controller is awesome. Has the motion control, touch pad, and feels great, also can be used on your PC if you plug it in using USB and can then be used on steam for any games that support controller once you install a driver. You can plug any headphones into the controller like Wii U one and talk on there to people if you dont want to talk through the camera.

My main surprise is how well motion control works, so much better than Wii U since the motion gaming was "invented" by Nintendo. Its 100% accurate the machine knows exactly where you are at all times and where the controller is, every movement is tracked perfectly.

Wii U will still have 2-3 games per year I know I will love, but PS4 is going to be my most used and main console for sure, its just a better machine and a company that is more friendly to its customers. In a year if you pay $50 for PS Plus membership you will have 30-40 games given to you "free" as they give 3-4 a month and who knows what other bonuses. Nintendo really has to lower prices.....

@LDXD I have high standards and this game is what I call a next gen Nintendo game, fully shows a leap ahead over Wii in every way and a game you can list in best games of the decade. Good job by Nintendo!!!

I have PS4 and Steam(550+ games) so when I judge games its based on comparing to a lot of games, usually I am hard on Nintendo because they have not lived up to "official nintendo seal" on most wii u titles, but boy they sure did with this gem!!!

This is the best game on WIi U and by far, its the first game where i feel proud to own a Wii U after a year of it being a failure in my eyes since I had it turned off all the time.

This mario 3d is a once in ten year game, one of the greats of a decade!!!

@Frapp "Real gamer" means people that know the difference between a Wii and a Wii U.

Nintendo is marketing to idiots that can't even tell what wii or wii u is.... those are not gamers, those are kids and clueless parents or grandparents.

This is the one game I will be buying for Wii U. Nothing else coming in the next few months looks interesting at all, but this looks like a masterpiece.

Picked up 4 games for my launch PS4 and have not used the Wii U for months, but I can't miss this awesome looking platformer. This is why you need a Wii U even if its not very good overall, it will have a few gems like this each year.

@Bizzyb Umm its teens, adults that want a machine to play games on. Not children in the ad Nintendo made 8 year olds....

You don't understand that? Nintendo is advertising to parents and little children now because teen and up gamers already know what Wii U is and most do not want it. So, Nintendo is focusing on kids and parents that don't know the difference between a Wii and Wii U let alone a PS4 or Xbox 1 and Wii U.

Its a smart move out of desperation, trying to get people that don't know what is what to buy their system.

Its just sad..... they are using all of their money to advertise on kids, that's all they care about because real gamers don't care about the machine. Real gamers know the difference, they just don't want the machine.

So they are focusing all of their money on parents and grandparents trying to make sure they know the difference between their 2 consoles to buy for 6 year old tommy.

I like my Wii U eventhough it is a disappointment, it will give me a few good 1st party games per year, but its embarrassing Nintendo has to do this kind of stuff...

Here is a good video: http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/18/game-scoop-our-first-weekend-with-the-ps4 Talks about PS4 launch so far.

1 million sold on day 1 only in one territory.

I had it since day 1, had some fun, but its been OFF way too much because of a lack of games worth playing.

Now I have a PS4, so lets see what happens. I know I will get mario 3D and love that, but not sure there is anything else anytime soon that I will want on it.

Happy Bday to Wii U and to me because its my birthday the 19th!

The Wii U is a piece of trash for anything other than 1st party games.

All 3rd party stuff is missing features, missing DLCs or runs poorly. Now with PS4 and XB1 no 3rd party games will be out for it.

I will get 1st party Nintendo stuff, probably 2-3 games a year, but thats all its good for.

I love my PS4. Day 1 they gave me $10 credit for the store, 1 free month ps plus, 2 free games from PSN plus that would be $15 each normally(nintendo would charge more i bet...).

There are also 3 very good Free to play games I was able to play right on day 1 too Dc universe, warframe and blacklight retribution.

So I had more games on day 1 all FREE than I have for Wii U that I have for 1 year.

The controller is awesome as well and the UI is 100x better than Wii U. Also it has all the apps Wii U has, but has many more and they work smoother on PS4.

I can't wait for Mario 3D, but Wii U overall lost this generation by far already.

@rjejr Playstation 4 lets you play stuff free online and offer many free to play games at launch, so you can have fun even on day 1 without buying even 1 game... not everything requires ps plus.

If you want PS Plus, that is additional online content for $5 a month or so which is very cheap(nintendo charges $10 for 20 year old 8 bit games). PS Plus will be giving you tons of free games and fun to be had for that $5 a month.

Nintendo is so far behind in the online world it isn't even funny.

They should cancel this fro Wii U. People that own Wii U won't buy it and also it will look and play much better on PS4/XB1.

This looks to be the best game on WIi U so far.

I really want this one!!!!

@Buduski Well not many people like Nintendo consoles that are age 12 and up so the worker probably didn't want the mother to buy it and waste money on it when she can wait a few days and get a much better PS4.

I own a Wii U and support Nintendo, but I would never recommend anybody get a Wii U over the other 2 consoles coming out. I have had the Wii U a year and its just sitting there 24/7 off 6-7 days a week after the 1st week or two that I owned it.

It is a weak machine for "next-gen" with poor online features compared to teh rest and even poorer game library. The only savior are 1st party games and you only get 1-2 a year now from old N

This is how sad Nintendo has become at marketing and making people actually care they had a new sytem. They have to do this so peolpe evben realize they have a new machine a year after its out?? WOW!!!!

I really love Mario 3d world and want it badly, but this Wii u is a joke. I will have my PS4 soon and already have a PC, so Wii U will only get used 5% of the time I play and only the best of the best 1st party games, because even many of their 1st party ones are not good enough anymore such as boring crap like pikmin that nobody bought.

@Mortenb not quite. It just looks like a good game on Wii U which is very rare and exciting! The next gen of gaming opens when PS4 comes out and then xbox 1 and steam machines. Wii U is not joining them unfortunately, its more like in the middle of last gen and next gen..........

This is the only game I am interested in from any that are close to being out.

Sonic looks like crap. The sonic and mario olympics seems limited only 8 events, but mario 3D looks great!

LOL @ "in 10 years..." this guys has lost it.

Online gaming is NOW. It has been the main way to play with others for years already, that is why 3rd party hates making games for Nintendo because Nintendo has the worst online options.