I’m not talking about review scores, something I specifically mentioned in my comment. My issue is with the criteria used to judge a game and that certain games are judged more harshly than others because of where they came from.
Neither myself or @Ambassador_Kong have mentioned conspiracy theories once, it seems to be a defence mechanism thrown back at us because our opinions don’t match the consensus.
You cannot objectively state that a game from a company other than Nintendo is treated with the same leniency that Nintendo games are when all the evidence states otherwise. I have no theory, I don’t need a theory.
I don’t need to look very far for examples - can you objectively @nimnio say that the ACNH review shouldn’t have at least labelled the number of islands per Switch restriction as a con, or gone into it in some detail in the review - things that a purchaser of the game would want to know.
I’m not bashing because of who scores what, I genuinely couldn’t care less what scores are handed out. What I’m asking for is consistency of review criteria across different companies. If you’re going to criticise someone for something, that same criticism should apply across the board irrespective of where the game comes from, and I don’t think there’s anything unreasonable in that.
I think the point here is that if you are going to mark a game down because it a) has blurry visuals or b) is priced too high then irrespective of whether or not the score is the same as what other sites have given it then that same consistency should apply to all reviews.
What is happening is that third party games are getting criticised here for apparent failings with their games but those same failings are not being applied to Nintendo games, because Nintendo.
To further expand on the two points above, yes the same blurry visuals point could be applied to XB Chronicles but it was not docked a point and as regards to the price, well Nintendo had the audacity to charge full price for a 17 year old game that had a graphical overhaul, but there it’s fine because again, it’s Nintendo.
That’s the reason why I am done with this site — it doesn’t look like it is able to separate objective journalism from blind fanboyism, and that’s a shame.
"Ultimately, Nintendo games is the reason people buy a Nintendo console".
Not really. I bought the console to have a portable experience capable of playing full console experiences on the go, like the Witcher 3. Nintendo games really don't interest me at all.
Its really not true this time round to say people are buying the console for Nintendo games only.
Just a few points here, and I absolutely don’t mean any of this to offend nor am I posting this to incite anything before I go any further. I’ve seen more than a few comments along the lines of “as long as Nintendo release games on the Switch I don’t care about anything else”, and I respectfully disagree.
The Switch is my first Nintendo console. I have no background or interest in the majority of Nintendo’s IP (Astral Chain aside, that does look pretty awesome). Given where I am, with limited free time for games balancing a job and children who have free rein over the other consoles.
The Switch attracted me because it offered me something that the other consoles could not - the ability to play proper AA and in some cases AAA games on the go in the limited free time I have. It’s been a godsend for me and I’m certain I’m not the only one in the same category.
I have none of the recently published best selling Switch games to date and I have no intention of getting any of them, they don’t appeal to me. I’m here for the third party ports and the indie games.
For me, I would hate to see the Switch become a first party games console only and I can only hope that when the new consoles release that isn’t the case. I’d have loved the Switch to have a bit of extra processing and graphics power so that it’s not a possibility that I have to worry about, but them’s the breaks I guess.
Oh look, another Animal Crossings article. That’s now, what, 8 in two days. Perhaps rather than devoting all this column space to hype and push games that don’t really need it maybe you should devote a few articles to, you know, push some of the lesser known games on the eShop that definitely could use the exposure.
Games that get overlooked because of the neverending first party hype train.
So the site staff genuinely think that Pokemon S&S is a better game than Divinity or Witcher 3, neither of which made a list that was absolutely filled with Nintendo published games.
And there are still people who wonder why there’s a lot that think that the site is biased.
I believe the issue here is that whereas most (well, every one that I have seen with the exception of here) other reviews have outright stated the fact that the microtransactions contained in the game are "troubling", and have even referenced the fact that Mario isn't available as a character from the outset and has to be purchased, this one doesn't portray them as such.
Whether intended or not, it does appear that Nintendo are being given leniency over things that other companies, if they had attempted the same, would be criticised for.
Yeah, I guess that kinda emphasises the point though . I love my switch and I’ve always been attracted to the portability aspect of it. There should be more emphasis on third party titles than there is because the more third party developers developing and releasing for the console the better rather than pushing them into a corner with a resounding meh sound and giving them as little coverage as possible simply because it’s not a first party Nintendo game.
It’s not just the scoring. Even in terms of the coverage that games get there is a clear bias and favouritism to Nintendo games and franchises. I guess that’s partly to be expected given to it Nintendo site, but it annoys the hell out of me that a game as amazing as DOS2 is treated as an afterthought when you get countless Mario articles every single day, most of them being completely garbage and pointless (I mean topless Wario, really!).
You would think that given the recent past with the Wii U that Nintendo based sites would embrace the proliferation of third party games rather than treating them as second class citizens.
To touch on the point that 10/10 games should appeal to everyone, well sorry there are quite a few people who don’t like platformers or Mario. To say that a game should appeal to everyone to get 10/10 is quite subjective, you are never going to get a game that appeals to every single person — all games should be treated on an equal footing irrespective of first person and third person.
Still waiting for the review of PoE to come up here, but given as it’s been more or less ignored by the site I’m not hopeful it will be soon, if at all.
An absolutely loathsome and repugnant company who exist solely on the strength of their annual sports franchises because they have damaged their reputation with all other gamers beyond repair.
Take a look at companies like THQ Nordic who regularly port their games to Switch and seem to be doing well out of it. They are vastly more deserving of my time and money than EA. And FWIW the Switch is much better off without their microtransaction ladened shovelware and anti consumerist practices.
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Re: Feature: Nintendo Life eShop Selects - June 2020
Would Jump Rope Challenge have even appeared on this list if it had come from anyone else?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 13th)
Just bought Astral Chain and trying it out, so far it’s pretty awesome!
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath - An Expensive Way To Get The Full Mortal Kombat 11 Experience
I’m not talking about review scores, something I specifically mentioned in my comment. My issue is with the criteria used to judge a game and that certain games are judged more harshly than others because of where they came from.
Neither myself or @Ambassador_Kong have mentioned conspiracy theories once, it seems to be a defence mechanism thrown back at us because our opinions don’t match the consensus.
You cannot objectively state that a game from a company other than Nintendo is treated with the same leniency that Nintendo games are when all the evidence states otherwise. I have no theory, I don’t need a theory.
I don’t need to look very far for examples - can you objectively @nimnio say that the ACNH review shouldn’t have at least labelled the number of islands per Switch restriction as a con, or gone into it in some detail in the review - things that a purchaser of the game would want to know.
I’m not bashing because of who scores what, I genuinely couldn’t care less what scores are handed out. What I’m asking for is consistency of review criteria across different companies. If you’re going to criticise someone for something, that same criticism should apply across the board irrespective of where the game comes from, and I don’t think there’s anything unreasonable in that.
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath - An Expensive Way To Get The Full Mortal Kombat 11 Experience
I think the point here is that if you are going to mark a game down because it a) has blurry visuals or b) is priced too high then irrespective of whether or not the score is the same as what other sites have given it then that same consistency should apply to all reviews.
What is happening is that third party games are getting criticised here for apparent failings with their games but those same failings are not being applied to Nintendo games, because Nintendo.
To further expand on the two points above, yes the same blurry visuals point could be applied to XB Chronicles but it was not docked a point and as regards to the price, well Nintendo had the audacity to charge full price for a 17 year old game that had a graphical overhaul, but there it’s fine because again, it’s Nintendo.
That’s the reason why I am done with this site — it doesn’t look like it is able to separate objective journalism from blind fanboyism, and that’s a shame.
Re: Review: The Elder Scrolls: Blades - A Grindy Free-To-Play Bastardisation Of Bethesda's RPG Classic
A cynical cash grab then. So the score is comparable to Mario Kart Tour then which did pretty much the same thing? Oh.....
Re: Nintendo Switch Is 'Barely In The Middle' Of Its Life Cycle
"Ultimately, Nintendo games is the reason people buy a Nintendo console".
Not really. I bought the console to have a portable experience capable of playing full console experiences on the go, like the Witcher 3. Nintendo games really don't interest me at all.
Its really not true this time round to say people are buying the console for Nintendo games only.
Re: Nintendo Switch Is 'Barely In The Middle' Of Its Life Cycle
Just a few points here, and I absolutely don’t mean any of this to offend nor am I posting this to incite anything before I go any further. I’ve seen more than a few comments along the lines of “as long as Nintendo release games on the Switch I don’t care about anything else”, and I respectfully disagree.
The Switch is my first Nintendo console. I have no background or interest in the majority of Nintendo’s IP (Astral Chain aside, that does look pretty awesome). Given where I am, with limited free time for games balancing a job and children who have free rein over the other consoles.
The Switch attracted me because it offered me something that the other consoles could not - the ability to play proper AA and in some cases AAA games on the go in the limited free time I have. It’s been a godsend for me and I’m certain I’m not the only one in the same category.
I have none of the recently published best selling Switch games to date and I have no intention of getting any of them, they don’t appeal to me. I’m here for the third party ports and the indie games.
For me, I would hate to see the Switch become a first party games console only and I can only hope that when the new consoles release that isn’t the case. I’d have loved the Switch to have a bit of extra processing and graphics power so that it’s not a possibility that I have to worry about, but them’s the breaks I guess.
Re: Random: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Is "Dumb" And "For Children" Says Business Insider Column
Oh look, another Animal Crossings article. That’s now, what, 8 in two days. Perhaps rather than devoting all this column space to hype and push games that don’t really need it maybe you should devote a few articles to, you know, push some of the lesser known games on the eShop that definitely could use the exposure.
Games that get overlooked because of the neverending first party hype train.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Life's Switch Game Of The Year 2019
So the site staff genuinely think that Pokemon S&S is a better game than Divinity or Witcher 3, neither of which made a list that was absolutely filled with Nintendo published games.
And there are still people who wonder why there’s a lot that think that the site is biased.
Re: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order's Second DLC Pack Is Available Now
I'm still stunned that this scored as highly as it did on the site. Its a repetitive button masher that really has nothing to bring to the table.
Re: Review: Ring Fit Adventure - Fitness Fun For Everyone
No mention of the price? If the site is going to judge other games on price then this should be subject to the same rules.
Re: Poll: Nintendo's Ring Fit Adventure Is Out Today, Are You Getting It?
this one's a nailed on 8 or 9 out of 10 for me
Re: Review: Mario Kart Tour - Steer Around The Gacha For A Fun, Free Take On The Series
I believe the issue here is that whereas most (well, every one that I have seen with the exception of here) other reviews have outright stated the fact that the microtransactions contained in the game are "troubling", and have even referenced the fact that Mario isn't available as a character from the outset and has to be purchased, this one doesn't portray them as such.
Whether intended or not, it does appear that Nintendo are being given leniency over things that other companies, if they had attempted the same, would be criticised for.
Re: Review: Overland - A Survival Roguelike That's Often Too Frustrating For Its Own Good
It’s not a Nintendo first party game so add a point to the score
Re: Review: Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition - A Pure Work Of Magic
Yeah, I guess that kinda emphasises the point though . I love my switch and I’ve always been attracted to the portability aspect of it. There should be more emphasis on third party titles than there is because the more third party developers developing and releasing for the console the better rather than pushing them into a corner with a resounding meh sound and giving them as little coverage as possible simply because it’s not a first party Nintendo game.
Re: Review: Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition - A Pure Work Of Magic
It’s not just the scoring. Even in terms of the coverage that games get there is a clear bias and favouritism to Nintendo games and franchises. I guess that’s partly to be expected given to it Nintendo site, but it annoys the hell out of me that a game as amazing as DOS2 is treated as an afterthought when you get countless Mario articles every single day, most of them being completely garbage and pointless (I mean topless Wario, really!).
You would think that given the recent past with the Wii U that Nintendo based sites would embrace the proliferation of third party games rather than treating them as second class citizens.
To touch on the point that 10/10 games should appeal to everyone, well sorry there are quite a few people who don’t like platformers or Mario. To say that a game should appeal to everyone to get 10/10 is quite subjective, you are never going to get a game that appeals to every single person — all games should be treated on an equal footing irrespective of first person and third person.
This game deserves a 10/10.
Re: Review: Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition - A Pure Work Of Magic
I’m very interested in seeing what score The Witcher 3 gets....
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (August 10th)
Still waiting for the review of PoE to come up here, but given as it’s been more or less ignored by the site I’m not hopeful it will be soon, if at all.
Re: Switch Owners Choose To Play EA Games On Other Platforms, Says Company CEO
An absolutely loathsome and repugnant company who exist solely on the strength of their annual sports franchises because they have damaged their reputation with all other gamers beyond repair.
Take a look at companies like THQ Nordic who regularly port their games to Switch and seem to be doing well out of it. They are vastly more deserving of my time and money than EA. And FWIW the Switch is much better off without their microtransaction ladened shovelware and anti consumerist practices.
Re: You'll Need A Bethesda Account To Play DOOM And DOOM II On Switch
The overreaction on here to this is incredible. It takes all of five minutes to jump on and enter an email address. FFS.