Even the very mention of EA can cause an almost unrivalled amount of disgruntlement in our comment sections; the publisher often finds itself being slated by Nintendo fans for its lack of commitment to Switch and earlier platforms, and it doesn't help that when games do arrive on the console, they're often a smaller, watered-down version of the full meal on rival systems.
EA's site currently lists just four games for the console, and the upcoming FIFA 20 will be a 'Legacy Edition' release, meaning that it won't contain any of the new features found across other platforms. Company CEO, Andrew Wilson, has explained the reasoning behind this lack of support for Switch; his response comes from a question which asked about the possibility of The Sims arriving on Nintendo's machine in the future:
“Any time we’re evaluating platform conversations we’re really looking at a couple of things. One, does the game really fit that platform in terms of the controls or the community ecosystem. Two, do we think the community playing on that platform would appreciate the game to go there, or would they prefer to play it somewhere else?
"We have a lot of data that would suggest that a great many Switch owners also own a PlayStation 4 or an Xbox One, or a PC, and very often choose to play the games that we make on those platforms even though they have a Switch and they enjoy a lot of great content on the Switch."
As you can see, Wilson says that the company's data would suggest Switch owners prefer to play EA games on other consoles, presumably giving them more of a reason to avoid Switch altogether. It's a frustrating response and an even more frustrating situation, though; if games aren't released in a high-quality state on Switch, of course fans will choose other versions, and this then drives EA further away from Switch going forward. It would seem the whole situation is in a never-ending cycle.
What are your thoughts on the situation? Do you choose to play EA games on other platforms, rather than your Switch? Would you be more likely to buy those games on Switch if they were equal to their counterparts? Share your thoughts with us below.
[source ir.ea.com, via twinfinite.net]
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I have only owned a Wii U, 3DS and Switch of the current Gen consoles. (Last oloder system i have is a 360) So your statement Mr EA is bull**** where i'm standing.
With a bad attitude like that and the "legacy" rubbish they pull can they honestly blame Switch owners for buying their titles on other platforms?
Actually, I choose to not play EA games at all.
Pretty much what Rob here said, among other things that EA has done to hurt consumer trust in their games. (Anthem, anyone?)
Of course, the other platforms have what's closer to being a complete game.
Seems a bit of a "catch 22" in his logic there.
We won't make a full game on the switch because people play on other platforms, which means means our data shows that people don't play our games on the switch, so we won't make full games on the switch...
So why can you get the Sims 4 on PS4 when the best way to play it is with a keyboard and mouse? Hmm.
This is the most asinine thing I've heard all week. This man should go into politics.
I believe gambling and coercion to buy in game currency through grinding mechanisms should be kept away from children and out of my games. Thanks.
This Switch and Ps4 owner chooses not to play any EA games at all actually.
I have put far more hours into FIFA 19 on the Switch than on my PS4, despite it being a far more inferior product. I think this all boils down to Ultimate Team and the lack of (essentially) free money they get from it. Ultimate Team is thriving on other platforms so they will continue to support it.
Classic EA TOTAL BS. "We released an inferior product on the Nintendo platform and it sold poorly. So clearly people prefer to play our products on other devices."
Blaming the consumer for their own deficiencies. This is why I wont give them so much as a single penny for any of their new games anymore. I called this. I pointed out that they would do this years ago. Because even when the Switch was new they were already doing this BS. Releasing an inferior version of their games, lacking features, support and an overall poor quality port, and then when it sells poorly they blame the consumer.
EA is scum. Total and absolute trash company.
I am actually glad EA do their own event for E3. It means they are super easy to avoid.
Actually, I choose to not play EA games on all my consoles.
This High-Nose attitude will break their neck one day. Not specifically with the Switch, but if other decisions are made in this company based on this kind of attitude, then they will fail one day for sure.
“Switch Owners Choose To Play EA Games On Other Platforms, Says Company CEO”
I wonder why?
No Sh@t Sherlock!
I have PS4 Slim White to play The Sims 4.
After playing The Sims 4 on PS4 for long time, I was nervous if Switch can handle the amount of loading time for The Sims 4 if my houses are complicated and a lot of Sims i created.
What a hypocrite that CEO. Of course it's a never-ending cycle. They do crappy ports and expect people to support them. Nice try.
I have a switch and a PS4 and Choose to play no EA games at all
That one is easy: as a company that offers absolutely nothing that picks my interest, bye!
I choose not to play any EA games going forward, on any platform 🤷♂️ Sad, I thought things were changing with Switch, but the FIFA 20 Legacy nonsense has confirmed otherwise. I only own two first party games on my Switch by the way, so no one can accuse me of not buying games beyond Nintendo published titles.
Someone has to tell him that it's not the same games. Of course we prefer to play them elsewhere because on switch they 're giving us older versions. Like fifa on switch.
For me it's actually I prefer to play other games than EA games on my switch.
Translation: "We're lazy and porting to a third console costs money."
I, also, haven't played an EA game in a looooong time on any platform.
Ea is a shell of the company they once were. All profit driven and poor quality products.
I mean, of course they play the games like Mass Effect, PvZ, Command and Conquer, Need for Speed, Burnout....on other platforms.
Because they aint on Switch to give people the option.
That's even more half-assed than giving people Mass Effect 3 for full price with the Trilogy just out for less elsewhere and saying "Why didn't you buy it?"
It is rather frustrating but at the same time he does have a valid point.
I'm the type of person he's referring to as I too own a Switch and a PS4 Pro, and with Fifa my preferred option would always be the PS4 version simply because it looks stunning and I have to somehow justify my purchase of a 4K TV haha
I did buy fifa 18 for the Switch and gameplay wise, I have to say I was impressed with it, but I foolishly downloaded the playstation demo version and the graphics quality is night and day.
Portability isn't really a thing for me, my Switch spends the majority of its life docked so it makes sense that I would want to play the better looking version.
Everyone is different of course and I realise my views won't reflect everyones situation but that's my 2 cents worth on the matter
Edit: there is of course the old argument that if Nintendo had released a comparatively powerful product then there would be no need for EA (or anyone else) to "water" their games down.
I'm not Not slating Nintendo btw, I play on the Switch far more so than I do my Ps4, I'm just playing devil's advocate
I can't understand why anyone would waste precious gaming hours on FIFA on any platform, but to each their own I suppose.
It might just be Switch owners like to stay away from virtual slot machines disguised as video games and without all that tax on stupidity rolling in it's just not of any interest to EA. EA games definitely hold no interest to me anymore.
I totally agree with the conclusion here: "It's a frustrating response and an even more frustrating situation, though; if games aren't released in a high-quality state on Switch, of course fans will choose other versions, and this then drives EA further away from Switch going forward. It would seem the whole situation is in a never-ending cycle."
Exactly my thought.
A bit of introspection would be smart here. The problem does not always reside in others and their behavior. Sometimes, we are the source.
Think about that, EA.
Won't be a huge loss if they get lost when it comes to publishing games for Switch. We ill-need such parasites as them.
The Switch is doing amazingly well anyway. Many will say the loss of EA support may hurt the system as their sports games are generally a big market on PS4/Xbone but I don't see them not supporting the Switch as a big issue.
Other 3rd party companies are supporting the switch enough that they're not needed. Bethesda ports must be doing well otherwise they would stop, Octopath Traveller blew all expectations out of the water for Square Enix, Cuphead and Super Lucky Tale breaking Xbox Exclusivity and being allowed ports to the system just shows the confidence in the product. EA are the real mugs releasing terrible versions of their FIFA games expecting players to be satisfied. It's a joke
Give us eFootball PES 2020, Konami !!
Well, as long as the Sims 4 isnt available at switch i cant play it at another platform since i dont have one. So I guess if you look at people who do have other platforms ues, they might play the Sims 4 on their other platform instead of switch
Haven't bought an EA game in ages but have they actually released any game day and date on Switch with other platforms that wasn't hobbled significantly?
Maybe if they rehearsed more games for the Switch and put in the effort to make sure they're quality products then they'd see more Switch owners buying their games.
Just a thought.
It’s a shame they don’t even bother to release games like the Burnout Paradise remaster on Switch. I’m sure it would make money...
And more gamers choose to play Doom, Wolfenstein, NBA2K...hell, every third-party game, on systems other than the Switch.
What's the shocker here?
I avoid EA like the plague.🤢
When was the last time EA made a full game without charging x amount of dollars for the remaining two thirds on other platforms? They don't make full games and haven't for a while now.
@Matthew010 you are 100% right they make a game for Xbox and PS4 and because they are pretty similar so development costs are for 1 platform
Oh geez, this is an article that's going to bring out the worst. I enjoy many EA games. Have probably bought over 20 of theirs just the Gen and will buy at least 3 more of their games for the rest of the year. They have definitely done some things I'm not a fan of but the EA hate train is so tiresome
They have self fulfilling data. When they make a watered down version of the game for one platform of course the data will say people aren't playing it. People aren't so stupid that they'll just blindly get a watered down game when they can get the full thing for the same price elsewhere. Release some full games and then see what the data says.
EA in 2017 - we are back on Nintendo platforms with a half arsed port of fifa.
EA in 2019 - our half arsed versions of fifa haven't sold that well so let's abandon switch support
I choose not to play EA games in any plattform and I encourage everyone to forsaken this disgracefull excuse for a video game company
I indeed have a ps4 aswell and I bought fifa 18 on ps4 because it wasn't good on switch. Because fifa 19 looked better I bought it day one on switch and had a lot of fun. I was really dissapointed when EA told us that fifa 20 would be the legacy edition on switch without any gameplay improvements, now I refuse to buy fifa 20 on switch or ps4. I would also buy the sims on switch but EA is just being stupid and doesn't realize the demand. I'm officialy done with Ea and I will never buy a game from them again (if jedi fallen order is actually good I will buy it used).
Well that's good news for the switch as like many others I don't play there games, but saying that will get the new star wars for ps4 if they don't screw it up, but hey it's EA so good chance they will.
Probably because they haven't released anything worthwhile. Bring over Mass Effect and I'll buy it day 1. All they have ported over are awful FIFA ports.
EA is just slopping over with A-Holes!! Seems like Every dev is on the Switch train EXCEPT EA!! And to add insult to injury, all I’ve seen is FIFA which doesn’t personally light me on fire!! Switch has sold over 30 million units now! No more excuses!!
@MaxlRoseGNR I would take a Pro Evo game with no real teams / players if it played like 4 or 5.
How about people who don't own other platforms, say... me? Release the Mass Effect Trilogy and Burnout Paradise Remaster on Switch and see if I won't pick them up day 1. There is money to be made on the Switch, but if you're not willing to invest on the system properly, a sizeable portion of owners know very well that you could be servicing us far better. Wise up, EA.
@MaxlRoseGNR Ohh yes, Exactly what I was thinking.
I happen to be one of the people who love Football so much that i had to own FIFA19... but if Konami were to give us PES I would buy it instantly. I will skip FIFA20 after this legacy nonsense from EA.
@Shiryu Now, I can't like this enough. Would love Burnout on Switch!
There is money to be made on Switch but I think it's opportunity cost rather than a strategy and as a result probably a fraction of a percent of what EA are making unless they can incorporate it into a multiplatform approach to make it worthwhile. Burnout and Trilogy would need a broad release, not a Switch exclusive. So, do the other platforms need them? Maybe not
I even disgust myself how I talk about EA. It's so corporate and devoid of artistry.
Am i right in thinking that EA Switch games released so far amounts to Fifa18/19, Fe and Unravel 2? Am i missing anything?
How seriously stupid can EA possibly be? You cannot "prefer to play games somewhere else" if they aren't even available on the Switch in the first place.
They seriously need to lose the Star Wars license already.
Actually I choose not to play EA games at all...
True slap in the face to Nintendo fans. Unless it’s a respawn game, I am done buying EA games on any console for a while. Maybe with more governments taking action against micro transactions they will start to realize having their games on Nintendo consoles makes more and more financial sense.
It’s a nintendo problem not ea.
What do people want. Ea to fit their game on a 64gb cart and sell it for double the price and still no one buying it.
I’m not gonna lie. Fifa is always cheaper to buy on a Xbox or PS4 and I don’t blame people going for the cheaper game but also the game that has better online support and more content.
Hit me those dislikes
I would totally play Titanfall on Switch if I could! In fact the original Titanfall was made for Xbox 360, so that version could be easily brought over to Switch in a slightly souped up way.
A Way Out would be perfect for the system and it would be great to get a Star Wars game on there, whether an original one or a port of Battlefront/Jedi: Fallen Order.
Bethesda do it and they choose the games that make sense to be on there. EA just puts out inferior titles then complains when nobody buys them... Not a great look guys.
@Marios-love-child that is completely my view
EA have a cynical attitude to Ninendo. They're not trying to deliver a product that exploits the Switch, they're not trying to get performance out of it. Their switch games are designed to target Adult non-gamers who are buying games for children. As long as the name is the same and the box and the game are similar (to a non-player) it's a nice little earner.
It's a very short sighted attitude but I bet it brings in a nice amount of revenue relative to the dev effort.
@1UP_MARIO Yes. Put it on a bigger cart and sell it for 80 pounds then make it so we can play with our friends online and chat.
Who am I kidding. Id still buy it for my PS4. Maybe it’s a European thing but PS4 games are always cheaper than Nintendo switch games
I play active soccer on Switch- screw EA
For all I care EA can go bankrupt. It only known for microtransactions ,destroyer of studios and defender of lootboxes
If EA starts to make games which deserve our attention, then yes, Switch owners would play the games.
Fifa and stuff - no thanks
@Luigi-number1
It worldwide. From Europe as well
@Fuz You kidding? Resident Evil on the go is the sith. Its personal preference, man. My personal preference leans away from theme park, since it sucks, and I'd play asscreed if there were a good version of it to play.
Then again, I boycott EA nowadays... so yeah.
It takes effort to make a good port and it will still be inferior technically from the competitors. The real answer is that they can't be bothered to do so, when they can make easier money with their well known practices. The Switch has proven that gamers will accept the downgrade to a certain degree, for the benefit of portability.
@Marios-love-child great comment and I’m sure your not alone.
That's what happens when you release half baked versions of your games on Switch EA...
It's incredible how disconnected they are from their (potential) customers.
I really hope that someone followed that question up with, "So, exactly what games have you released on Switch that have sold poorly in the past two years that give you this data?" Because, honestly I want to know. My own investigations only show lazy ports of FIFA using an old engine.
Haha, come on, they have to be trolling at this point!
And once again EA neatly demonstrates why they're one of the most beloved and cherished publishers in the business...
("We've made exactly zero effort to appeal to the Switch owners, and the fact they don't appreciate our efforts proves we were right not to do make any in the first place")
This is a great example of twisting data to fit a narrative. It's true that many people who buy Nintendo systems own them in addition to another more powerful home console. This is an approach which has worked well for Nintendo since the Wii was released, and it's likely why Sony and Microsoft don't view them as direct competition. The problem here is that as bad as EA has been for decades now, they used to make at least some effort to throw us all a bone and tailor a steady stream of releases to Nintendo hardware. I don't want to get into the hows and whys, but I am constantly shocked that EA squanders and mismanages such a vast amount of talent and intellectual property under their umbrella. As good as they are at making money, they've been equally exceptional at costing themselves.
They’re just looking at the data without taking in the context - e.g. stripped down version on switch. It’s things like this that will make ea fail and they’ll be totally oblivious to it until it’s far too late
@ozwally Bingo. Context means everything.
I don’t really miss EA to be honest. I don’t like their games all that much. Sims 4 would have been cool to have on the switch though. I could play Battlefield on my Xbox if I want. But other than that I don’t really care. Unravel 2 is nice to have at least.
Would probably help if you didn't half a** your games. There's only been 2 Fifas on Switch and they've already started doing those classic versions. Cheapskates
@Stecav67 Not sure you can go that far, even the beloved Playtonic lied to Nintendo gamers.
I think this is more an EA - Nintendo relationship problem, it was only a few years ago that EA strolled on the stage at the Nintendo E3 conference promising a great future together. We were all very surprised at the time, but not when we got nothing from them and no more talk was mentioned again.
Seems obvious to me that talks didn't go well and that the two companies don't seem to like each other.
Does EA not even once consider that the reason no one cares for their Nintendo releases because at every opportunity they gimp those releases? Like how v they seemed genuinely surprised that Mass Effect 3 undersold on Wii U, when it launched almost directly against the Mass Effect Trilogy bundle (for I believe a cheaper price point at the time) and contained only partial DLC support.
EA are pigs.
I regret buying the Champions Edition of FIFA 19 on Switch now, thinking that I was supporting the long-term prosperity of the franchise on Nintendo hardware. I should have known better after their treatment of the franchise on Wii U.
I was among the biggest Sims supporters. I bought every expansion pack, console/handheld iteration for every system that I owned.
But they didn't continue to deliver.
The GBA/DS games were some of my best handheld experiences, but then they came out with the POS that was The Sims 2: Pets (DS), a broken, buggy, and hideous first-year gaming degree abomination. And it even launched at a higher retail price than previous games!
On PC, they removed content originally intended for full expansion packs and sold them off as "stuff packs" (datamining of the Open For Business expansion pack yielded information pertaining to the content that would eventually become "Family Fun Stuff"), which were laughably bare in content, and the full expansion packs suffered as a result, with less content for the same price.
Then they had the audacity to curate The Sims 2 Store, by selling individual items piecemeal. They were already releasing expansion packs every 6 months and a stuff pack or two in between. Why wasn't this content included in those retail packs instead? How much money did they want the fanbase to spend? The Sims 1 had a fair amount of official DLC, all of which was free. Ah, how times have changed.
And the individually sold Store content was/is repulsively overpriced. I seem to recall a gum ball machine item in The Sims 3 that cost about US$5 in real-world currency!
It took me a long time before buying The Sims 3 base game, and upon booting the game, I was immediately greeted to greyed-out icons for content within the in-game catalogue, that can only be bought via The Sims 3 Store. That was the final straw. I wish I got a refund.
EA offered The Sims 4 base game as a free download recently, and I wasn't terribly impressed. The interface is nowhere near as intuitive as the first two Sims games, and some of the changes they have implemented, especially to the Create-A-Sim mode, are completely demented, and feed into the delusions of vulnerable people. There are a far greater quantity of people who can be better represented in a game like this, including those with disabilities, dietary restrictions, dwarfism etc. Instead we get false "diversity" for purposeless first-worlders shedding crocodile tears of false "oppression".
I will continue to enjoy the first two games and the initial GBA/DS games, but the franchise has deteriorated to a point of no return, sadly.
Who the hell wants these boring sports games anyway?
I must be the minority then, but I only play on switch unless there is no other option, ie RE2. I’ve always been a Nintendo fan, but right now it really is the console that attracts me most. Also, I have not bought or played a Madden since 2010 on PS3. If there was a switch version I would buy it day one, hell, I’d buy two so I can do switch vs switch games of madden with friends.
That I think is a fair comment. Not all games are ment to have their standards lowered just to fit a less powerful console.
Nintendo always said their product is different and not in direct competition with the other two consoles and I wouldn't be surprised if more Switches are the second console in a home than a first.
I don’t play EA games, not due to controversies or such, but simply because they aren’t usually my preference. But I agree with what is being stated in the article; that many Switch owners also have a PS4, XBOX, or PC, and play the big multi-platform games on the more capable hardware.
I do that with multi-platform games as well. Since I’m a 95% docked Switch player, I would much rather play Dragon Quest Builders 2 on my PS4 Pro, for instance. My Switch is mostly used for Nintendo-exclusive content, such as Fire Emblem, which is amazing.
I just want them to port over the Mass Effect Trilogy. There isn't a single modern EA game I care about anymore.
If EA made games that utilized engines that could easily be scaled up or down, then their games would sale better on the Switch. But they don't. Or better yet, how about instead of porting the 360 version of "insert sports game name here", make a sports game from the ground up specifically for the Switch. There is so much potential money to be made but the higher ups at EA love to make money with the least amount of effort and money spent on their part (yearly sports updates are a perfect example). How about teaming up with Nintendo for a new NBA Street (or NFL, NHL, MLB FIFA) game and add an exclusive team(s) made entirely of Nintendo characters. I guarentee that would fly off of store shelves and put to rest this notion that EA games won't sell on the Switch.
While I have as much disgust for EA as anyone else, he isn't entirely wrong here. I have a PC, an Xbox One, and a Switch. And I almost always prioritize PC. Mainly because graphics matters to me and so I play on the most powerful platform I have. My Switch is for Nintendo exclusives, that is all.
I can see how this might be more of a problem for people who's Switch serves as their main console though.
After these recent Switch sales number announcements EA won't be ignoring the Switch for much longer. If it keeps selling like this they're gona want to try & get as many sales as possible on the platform because if EA loves anything it's money. People need to speak up & not by these funky old Legacy Edition they're putting out.
I bought the first FIFA on Switch because at the time it looked like they made some effort to make something that could work on the platform. I will never buy those crap newer versions for my PS4 Pro. I’d rather buy PES at least that one is less effected by lootboxes and other player exploitation. Oh, sorry I mean ‘Surprise Mechanics”
This is a legitinately embarrassing answer.
But they were the ones who thought they could get away with putting gambling in Star Wars games without people (and governments) noticing, so I'm not surprised.
God I hate EA and their stupid PR bullsh!t.. There is not enough profanity in the English language for me to describe my disdain for this backwards a$$ company. EA proper is only interested in shoe-horning as much predatory micro-transaction crap into every game they release. I worry for the future of Respawn. I hope their contractual agreements are iron-clad.
So what is his reasoning for someone like me; someone who only owns a Switch and skipped out on the PS4 & XB1 (I’ll probably never fully game tethered to a TV ever again. The hell with visual fidelity). Someone who would buy a Titanfall, Fallen Order or a decently ported FIFA game on my Switch? Hell, a decent Sims port on Switch could get my wife to purchase one for that alone!
An interesting point to note about this scumbag CEO - Andrew Wilson is the executive who green lit and pushed the concept of Fifa’s Ultimate Team into the vile, predatory, greedy, gambling system that exists today. Spending pennies in game development to make millions in micro-transactions. There is no going back for EA. This is their business model now and it just won’t fly on a Nintendo console. So this scumbag CEO can spin all the bullsh!t he wants, but the fact is, the reason EA won’t release games on the Switch is because micro-transactions just aren’t as lucrative on the Switch as they are on other platforms.
I wonder what EA will do when their lootboxes become regulated. No doubt that will be the day Andrew Wilson retires.
Nintendo gamers are generally very tight fisted and not open to 3rd parties. Even the very suggestion of a new Switch sku has Nintendo fanboys seething with anger, anguish and pain.
Regardless of sales or EA, having a separate team, develop on a separate engine, a separate version of FIFA and try and include all the new features wouldn't be feasible.
So... they're saying people don't play games that they haven't made? Shocker.
To be fair is the last developer I need on switch. I don't recall a worthy game from them in the last 10 years...maybe even more than that lol
@liveswired that statement is bulshit. Nintendo gamers as others like good games. You could say they are more resistant to trends though
I won't play ea games on any platform. Easy decision.
I wish they would at least make one version of Madden. Doesn't have to have all the features of the full version. I'll bet they would sell a million copies.
EA is hamstrung by one word, Frostbyte.
They have chosen to be exclusive to x86 systems and as a result they don't seem to care to support another platform.
They could release Apex and the PVZ Battle Royale and they won't because of Frostbyte.
EA can go suck a d***!
It's this kind of BS mentality they have on top of other reasons (the insane level of greed and shady practices) why I've stopped supporting EA many many years ago and this just strengthens that!
Properly support Switch and people will buy your games on Switch but these half-a$$ed ports and "legacy editions" just piss people off!
Most Switch owners would prefer to play portable full versions of your games, not these so-called legacy edition crap.
EA can do die in a fire!
EA so obviously does not want to support Nintendo and is going out of their way to get out of it. They have been pretty open about Switch ports of FIFA being lacklustre, they’ve also somehow dropped the ball on so many in game events, advertising them for Switch then reporting they won’t be available on Switch. I think they do it on purpose, something also tells me they probably convinced themselves people would blame Nintendo and it backfired on them.
If you buy EA games on any platform you are part of the problem!
Don't buy EA!
I’m usually the first one to poke a little fun at the angry online mobs, but I fully support the angry online mob when it’s aimed at EA. It just feels right.
Hmm...maybe because the rare occasions we get an EA game it sucks? And not everyone wants the sports games, especially watered down versions.
If I want EA then I choose PC or old GameCube titles. I can’t resist The Sims.
People are asking to play EA's games on Switch... People are asking to play EA's games?
Their loss. If they choose to ignore the Switch footprint in the market, it's their money to lose. Personally, I buy all my games on the Switch if I have the choice. I'd buy the NHL series in a heartbeat. Same with Star Wars.
Hey EA, I’m a switch owner and I choose not to play your games on any platform. If they were on switch, I’d at least consider it. But I don’t use my ps4/pc nearly as much and anything EA is last on my backlog and well deserved to be there.
Yes! At least I can sleep soundly, knowing that the Switch won't be sullied by the crap that EA produces!
EA functions on the mantra that some 3rd parties still do, and that is, "I will safely profit by only developing for the most powerful mainstream system(s) and take no risk for sake of platform or industry". It's ok-- Thankfully far more devs/publishers have understood and conquered the "Nintendo mainstream", so it balances. I honestly lose no sleep over EA lol.
EA does the same song and dance with each Nintendo console. Just call it the EA Cycle:
1. Make low quality ports.
2. Complain that the low quality ports aren't selling.
3. Stop supporting the system altogether.
Lol @ EA, a company which was relevant in the 90s and 00s. To be honest, I bought FIFA 19 on Switch and it was just above average. I won't buy another $60 FIFA unless they improve it drastically, which they won't do. And their other titles don't interest me. They have pretty much turned into a slot machine company, so let them be that. And since they are not interested in a Nintendo platform, do they deserve the coverage here?
@BenAV +1
EA has gone to crap anyway. I'd rather buy games from other publishers that are about fun, not just incrementing a number and adding in micro-transactions.
last EA game i played was Anthem yeah it looks good but the gameplay is shallow and bare bone
@Marios-love-child Most cohesive and rational response of a true gamer and not a fanboy like the rest, props to that fellow gamer
EA can keep their games
@1UP_MARIO i agree. I don’t play handheld so why would I pay for a more expensive inferior port?
'We find Nintendo gamers are less likely to fall for our disgraceful bullpoo business practices,so we concentrate on the casual market on other platforms as they're more gullible'. There you go EA, I fixed it for you
@Rob3008 I can blame them for buying it at all....
When will EA just die and burn in hell already?
@Fuz Yeah, and those 3 EA IP's are ported horribly to switch. Of course people ain't buying 'em. The only time I came CLOSE to buying from them was when they discounted their 2k19 games to like $2, and I still didn't buy them because I thought the experience they offer wasn't worth it.
EA: Do Nintendo Switch owners want gamez?!
NS owners: Sure give us sports
EA: Here's soccer.
NS owners: But it's not as go__
EA: It sold poorly. People play our games elsewhere. Goodbye.
Forget them. We don't need their nonsense.
@Fuz I don't think you're totally wrong - Switch's user base is different, and they tend to value different things (portability for example). However, I do think it's hard to compare how well things have done on Switch against other platforms. We haven't had very many 3rd party releases day and date with other versions, most are ported after they've already been in the market. There have been other issues - like incomplete games on cart and forced downloads (looking at you 2K). And it's not just EA that has released versions of their games on Switch that are missing key features other platforms enjoy, EA is just the most egregious offender. I think one major test for this will be Doom Eternal - that's a high profile release that is supposed to come day and date with no missing features. Comparative sales will be much more telling for that game.
I don't play EA games, period.
EA can take their lootboxes and shove it up their you know wat they never care about quality games anymore they just rush them out broken just like the switch versions and really hope ea disappears soon.
EA: Frostbite is needed for soccer on Switch. It is superior engine.
EA: We need to water down to get to work on inferior Switch.
Epic: Unreal engine 4 works perfectly
Bethesda: Creation engine works perfectly
CD Projekt RED: REDengine works perfectly
EA: People prefer to play our watered down game on other platforms. Work is hard. We love money but only when eazy.
Only way I'll ever buy an EA game again is if Dragon Age comes to Switch. I'd love to play Origins on the go
So, I will never realize my dream of playing NHL on Switch on the go?
The sad thing is that this is Sims that we are talking about, not FIFA or Battlefield.
Animal Crossing is going to be one of the biggest Switch games of 2020, and Stardew Valley is one of the biggest indie games on the Switch, yet EA thinks a simulation game on Switch isn't worth the effort...
If they wen't back to making the BIG series of sports games, I'd be happy. Fiffa Street, NBA Street and Freakstyle were some of my favourite games on the Game Cube
@AlphaElite To be fair that looks very similar to their actual model:
1- Make "new" game using as many old assets as possible.
2- Introduce "new" innovative mode to lure in the current casuals (battle royale)
3- Remove old features bit by bit
Seriously, I have this conversation with my fiance almost weekly since she plays The Sims. EA is a joke. They show no passion or commitment to actually doing things fairly and just for any of their communities. Then when they do have the option to make a quick buck with Nintendo in this case, they deem it too hard when it's been proven time and time again by virtually every other developer that while it's hard work, it pays off.
I just want them to lose all of their licenses with sports and Star Wars. I want someone to come along and make a true Sims game like what happened with Sim City and City Skylines. I just want them to feel the burn of how they have burned their fans over the years. They ****ing suck.
Never ending cycle of events going on here. EA just wants to continue to talk themselves out of developing for the Switch.
We have a PS4 in the house and I have never played it. There's games on the platform I really enjoyed in the past and even own Fallout 4 which I have been begging for on the Switch yet haven't played it. Detroit Become Human is the free game of the month but I haven't dl'ed it and it has my interest. Don't want to be tied to a tv. If Madden or NHL came out on the Switch I would surely buy at least one version of each to have both those games on there.
So I'm forced to hate EA because of their business practices not because I don't like their games!
Switch has sold more units then xone but still no Madden or NHL then
@Spoony_Tech Exactly. It's not necessarily their games as they have great IPs. It's their business practices that are dictating everything. It's like they have been pinching pennies for the last 15 years when all they ever need to do is listen to the GD community.
@Fuz I think it all depends on the user. I prefer the Switch to play games because of its portability, and I play the PS4 because of its exclusives, other people is the reverse of that, and others that double dip on a game that are in both consoles. In this case EA release inferior games on Switch, compared to it's counterpart, so of course not many will be playing them on Switch, and yet they have the gull to blame the consumer of not getting it on Switch. I think is time for EA to go bankrupt and disappear from the gaming industry. The last EA IP own from EA that I bought was Dragon Age inquisition. I don't think I have missed much
@liveswired Actually, the problem for EA is that Nintendo gamers can see through them. They tend to see that there is no need to buy annual versions of a sports game (see Tiger Woods PGA golf on the Wii which sold gangbusters one year and less so the second).
I enjoy the fifa games and the occasional Madden game. Saddens me fifa won't get proper support on Switch ever.
Ponder this — Microsoft releases more games on Switch than EA.
They really are the most clueless bunch over there at EA. Don’t understand how they have lasted so long in the industry with such ignorant methods of approach....
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at their ignorance
Considering the full panel of 1-star reviews for NHL19 when it was given away as an XBox Games with Gold freebie stating that it was a rip-off and cost too much for free......I'm curious on what platforms people do chose to play EA games? If it's not on Switch, and XBox players won't even take it for free..... Who exactly is playing? Is Playstation an EA box now?
I don't get why EA can't just be honest like Falcom and say "You know what? We really only have competence working on a single platform and refuse to really spend any time on anything else at all, even if it's where our customers actually are."
Let's be real. EA's target market, both in interests/content and in favored business model, is on mobile. That's really where they ought to focus their energy.
Ah well. I enjoyed FIFA on the Switch-I prefer the older engine to Frostbite as it plays a better game of actual football. Frostbite makes it look more like a TV Broadcast but without improving he gameplay.
As it is, if I have to be tethered to a TV it’ll be PES for me. Lacks the bells and whistles and superficialities but it’s back to playing a brilliant game of football.
I would also have been interested in Madden and NHL for the Switch but not for PS4 or XBox. There’s an NHL game on Game Pass and I haven’t even found time to load it up yet. Their loss, I’ll survive.
@Kal_el_0724 That's all pretty true. They got into hot water with FIFA a few years ago for bragging during an investor meeting about how they basically spend nothing on development for FIFA games.......FIFA started wondering why they're not getting significantly more money out of the deal....
There is zero game designer working in EA. This company is an insult to videogames.
Well EA there is a reason people are not buying your products on the switch.
Not the audince for it?
I doubt it, doom skyrim resident evil wolfenstein etc selling like crazy.
And hey i think its a lot harder to put doom or wolfenstein on the switch then Fifa is.
Titanfall (not for me) whould be A game I see people buy on the switch, yust put the effort in it.
EA stands for Eternal @$$es and destroyer of game developers they buy out.
I think it's more like they don't have that many games that appeal to Switch owners. But a new Dead Space or Plants vs Zombies game would probably sell pretty well.
That’s funny. I choose not to purchase any EA games at all and I own all platforms. And they wonder why they have the worst image in the gaming industry.
I guarantee it's that that feel switch owners aren't as acclimated to all the microtransactions they put in thier games. Therefore EA doesn't see it worth their while to go to switch as the return may not meet their expectations.
Weather that would be true or not I don't know but I bet that's what they think.
I uninstalled origin app on my pc exactly because of their lack of Nintendo support
Nintendo Switch sold 32.27 million units without any support from EA, for them not to try and make decent ports or exclusives is beyond ridiculous.
EA hasn't had a good idea in years, and if it wasn't for there sports licences...
They're wrong. I'm a Switch owner and I just don't play EA Games anymore. I think Dead Space 2 was the last EA title I cared for. Here's a secret EA: make good games and they will sell!
So let's get one thing clear before I rip into this. EA sucks, they haven't released a solid game sense they decided that games like dead space were not profitable anymore. The line up they cultivated has turned to trash and they are too busy trying to chase the easy buck. So who cares what they release where.
As far as their data goes. How many full versions of their sports franchises have they released so far in full versions up to this point? 2 ? Maybe 3? Switch owners talk about how they will buy something even if it isn't as good as the core product so long as it plays well. Clearly they didn't for EA. To be quite honest, they aren't wrong. Every game I've shown interest in has played better else where and hasn't had to make compromises to work either. Bloodstained being the most recent title. MK11 runs very well on switch, but those little details make the difference. You know those little details devs always go on about, whether it's wind blowing through a room or zoo animals walking across a deserted city during a post apocalyptic scenario, those compromises hurt the game if they are missing. The switch is a cool machine and with dedicated experiences like fire emblem 3 houses, arms, Mario maker 2, Mario rabbids kingdom battle, and so much more, you start to see where your money should go.
The numbers I've seen back up the fact that 3rd parties should keep their games on other platforms. The cost financially and the reduction in product quality that adversely impacts the developers original vision isn't worth the compromise. Ubisoft titles in particular sing true to this. South Park's worst version is on switch and it's the least stable version. Star Link again same issue, least stable, it also happens to be a huge visual reduction for the game and feels clunky as hell compared to the other platforms. Not I do feel star Link could be retooled into a starfox game, but again that would be an experience tailored explicitly for the switch. Ultimately the compromises aren't worth it for a port. Mario kingdom battle runs great, looks great, and has no compromises. Many people have shown an interest in playing the higher quality version of a title. Those technical issues are too high a price. To be perfectly honest when EA was in it's prime I'd still have purchased Mass effect and dead space on ps4 or PC. I have no interest in playing watered down versions of those games had they been made for this generation. Though those games could find a fit with remasters on switch, which ones have stated they are tired of those types of releases.
Occasionally you'll see a doom game come about, but owners fail to realize is that Doom is the exception not the rule. Bethesda intentionally underspecs their games. I'd be surprised if doom didn't run as well as it did when it released. Honestly more than a few games rely on this fact for their own porting. Then you have the advantage some developers put out there, that the extra performance allows developers to release games fast. In other words cut more corners and take the hit so they can focus on more important aspects of the game. Then you have developers who push the absolute limits. The latter we see with a lot of EA titles. We see it with CoD from Activision. We see it from ubisoft with AC, Watch Dogs, and anything with Tom Clancy slapped on the box, we even see it with square enix. Not every 3rd party is willing to give Nintendo a good will release by making them target platform.
EA is struggling with it's identity right now, they don't have the means to play with the switch right now. Their current catalog just has no home on switch and they refuse to release remasters of their games to any platform. A good will release is also put of the question.
As the switch lags behind your going to find 3rd party support slip back to bite sized versions for switch, especially next year. This is a rocky road you invested in as switch owners, you knew this was a thing and we're warned by your peers. I agree the trade off has been good if you hadn't played some of these older games or were fans enough to play them again. That games like Mario Odyssey, fire emblem, are great reasons to own. Let's be fair here , you knew you'd still be buying certain games for PS4 at the end of the day. You'd take what was within reason on switch till a title like Bloodstained, Crash Team Racing, or some other compromise that went to far came along. EA is not wrong when they say, you likely own one of the other platforms already if you were playing their games. Because you had been doing it for over 3 years already. If you traded in your PS4 or Xbox for a switch, you sir are one of the rare ones.
There is also a reason EA prefers their games on other consoles. People are dumb enough to buy the constant micro transactions they have invested in those games.
Screw EA. I could care less if they no longer publish on Switch.
Well EA, maybe it’s because you don’t release any games for the Switch besides garbage FIFA ports. But that’s okay. We don’t want your greedy garbage on the Switch. You suck EA. You used to be an amazing company in the 90’s and 2000’s. Now, you’ve become the most evil villain in the video game industry. For shame.
“EA Games - Screw Up Everything.”
While I wouldn't call ALL of the titles that are published by EA bad (Ex. Dragon Age), I haven't enjoyed or even touched one of their in-house games in years. Some of this is due to genre preference, but they've ruined some franchises that I used to enjoy.
That comment seems like both a catch-22 and a "Duh" statement. When you release gimped games and have crappy policies within them to begin with, of course customers will either play on other platforms or avoid those games entirely.
(I'm well aware that my comment may echo others by the way, but I'm not gonna read through 160+ comments at this point. )
That's a ignorant statement considering preference is based on choice. If most of EA's games are only on non mobile consoles then what choice is there to play a device that doesn't provide a choice for said game if it's not actually on that other platform? EA really should just save their statements when it comes Nintendo topics. They would sound a lot more intelligent if they did.
@Rafx I imagine there's a lot of truth to that. Bethesda is probably the single least compatible company for the assumed "Switch audience" based on their content, yet they're cranking out game after game as fast as they can and turning a profit in the process. Something at EA doesn't add up.
Though there's one big difference. Bethesda, though their content is not associated with the typical "Nintendo player" tends to be geared very heavily toward dedicated gamers. "Casual" players are generally not going to have much interest in most of Bethesda's games.
EA by contrast seems to make games that appeal primarily toward casual players and very few games that really appeal to dedicated gamers.
And that may be the difference. There's a huge casual audience on other platforms that really just want to play a few sports games and a big shooter with their friends, and EA focuses on that group. Nintendo players tend to be much more dedicated gamers and are more likely to buy games that appeal to greater depth interests aimed at an experienced gamer.
It’s been a little over 12 years since I chose to purchase an EA Game.
Ironically, I would 100 percent buy Madden on Switch but will not bother with it on other platforms... The portability would allow me to play while my wife and kids watched TV. I can't devote hours to play Madden on our living room television anymore.
@JasmineDragon On a related note, what pisses me off about most interviews is that people hardly ever ask the tough / brutally honest questions.
For example:
"Many Switch owners suggest the reason they go to other systems is because the Switch version is often of lesser value. And as you know, there is objective data to prove this (with the lack of game features on Switch, etc). What are your thoughts?"
But nope, interviewers just stay away from this sort of questioning. Im guessing they're afraid to lose their darn jobs, so the interviewers' employers are just as awful for not calling out these CEOs.
Can't choose if there is no choice. I however have chosen to stop giving EA money.
Just cancelled my Star Wars preorder. I'm not going to reward them, doing what they want me to do so they can screw Switch owners (buy elsewhere so they can save money making fewer versions).
Either release on Switch or forfeit my sale. I wont be buying any EA games on other platforms going forward. I can do without Star Wars. So many amazing masterpiece games on Switch I can't even keep up as is. I don't need EA's games, certainly not enough to buy them on a platform I dont want to play them on.
Of course I would not buy it on Switch. As an owner of four systems it would be a better value to buy the game that is regularly updated and provided with new content. EA’s decision making is flawed to say the least.
I should also disclose I do not purchase or play EA games on any platforms because of lack of good quality titles: made so because of EA’s business decisions instead of game design.
@JaxonH Other than the new Star Wars, has EA actually released a game on any platform since the Switch launch (I.E. excluding their legacy games) that's worth buying, even if it was on Switch? (Actual EA games, Unravel 2 is EA published, but not an EA game.) Seriously, I do like some of EA's older games, but I can't think of one that even slightly interested me since Feb 2017. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst was probably the last worthwhile game they produced. They've settled into an all new low of spending absolutely nothing on production and raking in annualization, DLC, and microtrans payments from it to the point that if you weren't a customer last year, they're not going to even try enticing you this year. I have no idea how these guys make so much money. They don't even pretend to want to sell you stuff you want. They just buy a license and let you favorite sports hero/Disney sell you stuff.
@BenAV I choose not to play ea games too. F*** em
I remember when EA meant something. That was a long time ago.
@NintendoFan4Lyf I don’t think it’s down to the power of the switch. The engine in Fifa 19 was perfectly fine, but they put some effort into at least keeping the modes in parity. Or releasing something unique like a new fifa street.
Nintendo could release comparably powerful consoles and certain companies still wouldn't support. Nintendo tried this with the Gamecube and the N64. EA has been sort of anti-Nintendo since the days of the NES. Probably only made a baseline effort with some games due to shareholder pressure.
They're not needed anyway.
EA lost everyone's trust and goodwill years ago. Their Switch games don't sell because they're half-assed, watered-down versions of their already microtransaction filled garbage on other systems. Their other games on PS4, Xbox One, and PC don't sell because they're half finished games filled with microtransactions. EA, if you just made a half decent game, with no microtransactions, no roadmap BS, no grind, and no lootboxes. Just a normal and complete game, may it would sell. But of course it wouldn't make the money that FIFA and Madden do, so they'll never do that. I mourn for all the good EA franchises that we'll never get more good games of. Command & Conquer, Burnout, Dead Space, Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge, Need for Speed, and Skate, to name a few.
EA is run by idiots who put out half-baked ports with missing features and then dismiss poor sales on the Switch with "Well, they just own another system and enjoy our games there. Nothing we can do about that."
What shocks me is that a company that once supported the f***ing 3D0 can somehow ignore such an obvious market with the Switch. The Switch should be getting both Fifa and Madden, with NBA Live and NHL also joining in as well.
Why are other EA franchises like Titanfall, Battlefield, or other stuff not ported to the Switch yet? Activision for some reason that defies all logic has never brought Call of Duty over to the Swtich. So, EA would have had a wide-open market to sell those games to.
Look at the massive success Bethesda has enjoyed on the Switch. For years, they were one of the biggest non-supporters of Nintendo, but once they finally took that chance they discovered an audience that they never knew existed and were rewarded with great sales.
Bethesda learned that if you treat Nintendo fans with respect and sell your third-party games to them the right way(don't gimp games, don't mock the audience) that you have a hungry audience that wants the games that Bethesda offers.
Look at WB games and the success Mortal Kombat 11 has enjoyed on the Switch!
This myth that third-party games never sell on Nintendo platforms is nothing but BS. Third-party games that are well-crafted have always found success on Nintendo platforms since the NES. The problem has been that for years, third-parties have ignored Nintendo's platforms and when they did toss a game our way, it was a half-baked port that was often gimped and often years old.
But this has changed on the Switch. Now, companies like Bethesda and WB have jumped in with Nintendo, and have seen massive rewards from gamers who want to play their games.
Which makes EA's lack of support such a shocker. Why not support the Switch more? If your games fail, then pack up and walk away. At least you tried. But something tells me gamers would embrace a full-featured version of Fifa or Madden on the go, or FPS titles like Battlefield and Titanfall given the slim pickings in those genres on the Switch.
I think EA would be rewarded for their effort. But yet they toss token support and then come up with excuses.
Which makes me wonder, why is EA leaving such obvious money on the table? Do they have deeper problems with Nintendo that we don't know about?
@Caryslan Exactly. I said this in a recent comment (in the article about the new Rabbids).
Part of the issue is that most companies never saw a single sale during the Wii and Wii U days (and partly from the Gamecube days, due to the PS2 overshadowing it). But the lack of sales was more prominent with the Wii / Wii U due to those consoles targeting a casual audience that never bought many games and a console that just didn't sell much to begin with.
Now these companies have some misguided notion that their games would never sell on a Nintendo console, although the Wii and Wii U era are long gone (along with those awful audiences that Nintendo had once targeted).
Simply put: Those past consoles left a bad, long-lasting taste on game studios — but they need to acknowledge this newest console is far different, and so is its audience. Once they acknowledge this fact, they can finally start releasing high quality content and subsequently see good results.
And this just explains another reason EA is where it is today, they have fallen so far! Don't want to make games for the biggest selling console for the last two years is a very interesting decision to make as a company that wants to grow profits.
They are sorta correct though, its not that I would rather play the games they released on PC or other consoles though, its just that I would rather not buy their games anymore on any system.
More fool them, I only own a Switch.
An absolutely loathsome and repugnant company who exist solely on the strength of their annual sports franchises because they have damaged their reputation with all other gamers beyond repair.
Take a look at companies like THQ Nordic who regularly port their games to Switch and seem to be doing well out of it. They are vastly more deserving of my time and money than EA. And FWIW the Switch is much better off without their microtransaction ladened shovelware and anti consumerist practices.
Alex Ward left the company because they didn't press enough discs on Wii U. Developers have anonymously spoken about the trainwreck that is Frostbite. Its funny how the apologists come running in blaming Nintendo but how about EA made a trash engine which is difficult to scale? Developers are starting to hate EA in the same way gamers do.
Switch is selling perfectly fine without EA so it clearly doesn't need them. They are losing their control and as soon as loot boxes get wrecked their revenue will topple. They remind me of Sony in 2007 "the suckers will buy anything we put out! ANYTHING!"
Its depressing to know a freaking software publisher is actually more arrogant than the leader of the giant enemy crab.
No doubt EA will once again use PS5/Scarlett launch to try to paint Nintendo as irrelevant by highlighting the need for power to play a reskinned version of their PS3 games yet again.
It just kills me that they never even brought any PopCap Games to the Switch. You'd think they would at least be okay with those titles, and I don't just say that because I'd enjoy playing Plants vs. Zombies on my Switch.
I’m fully expecting for EA to stop making a Switch version of FIFA, next year. And act as if the Switch “would be unable to handle our next-gen cutting edge” version of FIFA... and still release it on XB1 and PS4... and probably XB360 and PS3.
It might be sadc but I hope that their Ultimate Team mode loot mechanics get gutted by legislation. They'd actually be forced to become a gaming company again lol.
EA is putting in the effort into lobbying various governments across the world to accept gambling in FIFA, but they won't put in the effort to port Sims onto the Switch.
Think about that.
Just think about that.
After the double whammy mess that was Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem, along with Mirror’s Edge probably never returning again, I have nothing from EA to even care about.
If they don’t want their games on Switch, fine, I’m not planning on buying any of their games anyway.
EA can just disappear, and the sooner the better. While I’d hate to see good people out of work, I wouldn’t bat an eye at EA if they ever shutdown. They no longer want anything to do with the style of games I enjoy, and they’ve abandoned every great single player franchise they once had, while also shutting down the studios who made them.
Visceral, Pandemic, both amazingly talented studios yet they were shutdown. Criterion and the Burnout franchise is no more, and EA couldn’t even be bothered to port Burnout Paradise Remasterd to Switch, which likely would have sold very well just to have such an amazing game on the go.
Even the once great BioWare has fallen, though it seems a lot of that problem came internally.
EA...good riddance.
@Fuz
While true, a game like Burnout Paradise Remastered would have likely done well on Switch. I still want it for Switch because it’s an amazing game that I’d love on a portable system. I’ll never see it though.
I have no vitriol toward EA... If they make decisions that negatively affect my experience, I just won't spend my money on their games. If more people followed that principle, they'd stop structuring their games like that.
Personally, I think this is a shame, because if they put Madden and NHL on Switch, I'd likely be purchasing them. I'm actually okay with a lesser version as a trade-off for being able to play handheld on my favorite system.
But judging by many of these comments, it seems like the prudent play for them. I'm obviously in the minority.
@JasmineDragon hed be someone hated on all sides! He is such a lying piece of garbage.
I choose to not play EA games on any platform if possible.
First of all, there are also tons of Switch owners who do not own another console or high end gaming PC.
Second, it's the whole Catch-22 argument again: Your Switch sales would go up dramatically if you actually released quality content on it! Nobody's expecting the same level of graphical or sound quality. That's the expected tradeoff for a Switch release with handheld play. We just want the full contents of the game with the same quality gameplay (bonus points for any added Switch exclusive features) and quality performance as featured on the other systems! Even some multi-console owners would choose the Switch version for the benefit of handheld play if you could just deliver that much.
Keep digging that grave EA; it’s getting deeper by the minute.
A bit dramatic, as you could always use EA’s titles and they are probably not entirely wrong, but it also means that their current slimey business practices can not appear on the Switch.
Huh.
I see no downside. I refuse to buy EA games on the PS4 as well. Make games I actually want to play.
Funny, I have a Switch, Xbox One X, gaming PC plus other older systems. I simply choose not to play EA games on any of them. There are too many good games that I don't have time for as it is, why would I want to help a crap company like EA out?
EA the last time you had my respect was when you were releasing games on the Amiga. I am content with you being absent from my current gaming world. I feel no loss.....
One caveat ... I can only hope in the future, that someone else gets the Star Wars licence.
It seems that the Switch of all platforms will be the first Nintendo platform to lack a Madden game altogether. Madden NFL had been on every Nintendo platform starting with the SNES.
Truly an unprecedented relationship.
Thats so strange.
Se play DOOM and Skyrim on Switch, as well as several other multi platform games, but we dont play EA games?
Maybe people play EA games on other platforms because they don't have a choice? During the Wii U days, I simply came to accept that EA just doesn't like Nintendo systems for whatever the reason may be.
I mostly play the classic EA games I have from GOG, only exception is Titanfall 2, both on PC.
@NintendoFan4Lyf I get what you’re saying I was glad too and bought Fifa 19 although found it largely underwhelming. Personally(and this is just my opinion) there’s no reason they couldn’t develop a better and more engaging game(as it will be a different dev team anyway) with more features than updated teams in comparison to previous years. I’m not really interested in the journey mode but would have loved the Volta mode on the switch no reason they couldn’t have made that in the modified ignite engine. Or just put out a completely different game that’s called Volta(basically Fifa street) which is more multiplayer focused. There’s even the ability for DLC as they could make it Ultimate team style and charge for different players.
Or perhaps Switch owners were already burned by EA during WiiU era and now have given up caring about them or their games entirely. I don't own a PS4 or Xbone, and play games almost exclusively on my Switch...but do not own a single EA game for it.
Hahahahaha How can say this when all they've put out on Switch is a few 'legacy' versions of the annual FIFA titles??!? .....Like that's not even fair to say something like this.
I play my EA games on the Sega Genesis
This is fantastic news!!
Keep EA away from the switch, we have learnt our lessons well, I personally don’t support them at all as they are complete trash with their half assed products. Personally not bothered if they closed down, I wouldn’t miss them or their games.
Everything that I have seen coming from EA's head offices tells me that whoever is running that company is completely out of touch with their audience.
@diablo2 Actually, plenty of third-party games did quite well on the Wii, it certainly didn't leave a bad taste to developers. I'm sorry, but your post was quite nonsensical.
@Dog That's simply not true, but you're entitled to your opinion, so I won't keep going back and forth about it.
@diablo2 Plenty of third-party games did just fine on the Wii. If that weren't the case, it would've been like the Wii U.
I chose not to play EA games. That's quite enough.
@Dog Yes, of course there were titles that did well. The question is, what overall percentage? Because "plenty" is likely not enough in the grand scheme of things, and i think we both know about the Wii's general reputation for collecting dust and being used largely for Wii Sports and a select few titles on occasion.
There were success stories for sure, as you say, but just not nearly enough. So i wouldn't exactly refer to my discussion as entirely nonsensical.
@kostasfil
You might be on to something. What if he actually ISN'T fully aware of the huge discrepancy between products on different systems. Or is told, "we've done them as best as it is possible on all consoles" and he actually believes his product lead - who was in charge of the decision to cut corners on Switch and internally tries to save face.
Shudder If that's the kind of culture the company has fostered, somehow I don't envy the people there.
(Come on PES, save us from FIFA!)
I should be an easy sell for EA (with FIFA anyway). I don't own any other next-gen consoles, I've bought FIFA 18 and 19, played a lot of both, but there's simply no compelling reason I should buy FIFA 20 on Switch so I won't. Sadly their analysts will take that as a lack of interest in their products, rather than an indication that their products aren't good enough.
It's amazing they are ignoring Nintendo, the company that made them famous in the first place
This guy is a ****ing idiot.
I “chose” to play Star Wars battlefront and NHL 19 on Xbox one did I? I “chose” that “option” over playing then on Switch? ....... tit.
It's a fair comment, and probably right. Most would play EA sports games on other systems. If that's the case, why spend the extra money trying to get an equivalent Switch version. With the other three systems (PS/XB/PC), they're probably fairly simple ports. We need to remember, EA has been snubbing Nintendo since day 1. In the 16 bit era, they were primarily developing for Sega, with SNES only getting a few releases later in life. There was FIFA 64 on N64 and I can't remember much beyond that. The GC did a bit better, notably two World Cup games and at least one regular game. Wii/WU nothing much, and understandably so. Switch has actually done well in comparison as this will be the third release.
No worries, i haven't purchased an EA game sinxe 360 days, 2010 i believe.
I play FIFA on my xbox one x because it lets me voice chat from the system with my nephew. I can't be the only on who choses to buy their online games on other platforms simply because of the annoying voice chat options. It has nothing to do with the other modes for me. It's everything to do with voice chat.
It’s hard to think of a company outside of American health insurance companies or drug companies that’s more overtly callus towards customers and potential customers than EA.
@Moroboshi876 actually isn't FIFA 1080p 60fps? That's a good port. But the voice chat kills it for me.
The only way to enjoy EA is to not play their games.
Funny thing is that Panic Button can pull miracles on ports or newer games on the switch, I guess EA has no team that can do that, and nba 2k19 runs good on the system, otherwise there wouldn't be 2k20. So I want to know what is the excuse. I have a xbox one x as well, and some of those games I would still play on the switch too. Like I said before Nintendo had made powerful systems in the past. it didn't matter to some third parties, so Nintendo went their own way.
How did it come to this?! I used to cherish EA in the 90s, but somehow they became the epitome of game studio f***ery. Clearly they misunderstand where I choose to send my dollars.
And this is why the only EA games I own are Fe and Unravel Two, because both are independently developed games and simply published by them (Fe by Zoink Games, Unravel Two by Coldwood Interactive).
@KevTastic84 joke's on you though. I was in your shoes until i decided to shed brand loyalty and just get back to enjoying games. Turns out more often than not, that's only possible on Non-nintendo consoles.
@BenAV wow you're so cool!
@hihelloitsme I know. Thanks.
If EA releases Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order on Switch, I would absolutely double dip.... The game uses the Unreal engine... I mean... come on!
@sixrings Well, I meant the absence of the Career mode, one of the strongest points of the latest entries.
People are responding to your behavior with their wallets. What a narrow minded and egotistical statement from EA. They honestly expect us to throw money at half assed efforts?
EA couldn’t be a worse company a this point. The stupidity they spread is amazing me again and again.
Truth is that a would STILL BUY a NHL game if the y bring it to the Switch. THIS is exactly the problem.
They DO NOT deserve those sports licenses any longer.
He's right, though...
I have enjoyed a lot of great content on Switch, except NONE of it has been from EA. Joke is on them.
@hihelloitsme not really a "jokes on me" in my situation. I have a family now, so gaming time is limited for me. So I play what I want to and Nintendo titles tend to be the ones I do.
I'm still not buying anything from them since 2010 with C&C4. Andrew Wilson let all their studios and original IPs crumble while they chase a golden goose of gambling with FIFA Ultimate Team. They're not even doing that exclusive Star Wars License any justice either.
I somewhat hope lootboxes do get banned globally. I'll imagine that would get him sweating when he realises they'll actually need to make sure most of their software/studios to succeed.
@marck13 same goes for the Star wars license, as long as they have exclusivity, people will buy these crap infested games, simply because there are no real alternatives.
The last EA game I bought was Fight Night Round 2. I don’t think that’s going to change. They’re vile.
@NintendoFan4Lyf you are completely right. EA made games for 64 and GC. The issue is power. They're not making PS3 games anymore either.
With reasoning like this they will see the error of their ways at some point. They can just be glad they have deep pockets.
I am one of the people who have a pc and a switch, they are literally ignoring millions of untapped wallets.
I have Fifa 18 and 19 physical an digital because their is no PES.
if Konami pull their fingers out they could be sweeping up some extra cash also.
If ea released NHL and MADDEN on switch in a decent fashion, they would sell. i wonder how hard it would be to simply use the switch engine to make an NHL and a MADDEN, i cant believe they are not even considering that.
This is proof that big business hates money, its all i am saying.
@John_Deacon You're too busy writing killer bass-lines and top 10 hits to be bothered with EA anyway.
Of course they do because the Nintendo version is always a half arsed cash grab which never has feature parity with the other versions despite costing more.
They can't even be bothered to port the frostbite engine most of their games run on.
Oh yeah? You think?
Um i play fifa 18 on my switch all the time
I don't play EA games on any platform
Look, we all say it over and over....EA are idiots and they have taken so many good studios, devs, IPs and franchises and just driven them into the ground. I mean Dragon Age (dead), Dead Space (dead..lol), ME (I guess we got 4 in current gen, but dead), it just goes on and on. Lets not even get started with Star Wars, which they have butchered and wasted the IP.
They try to point the finger at Switch and Switch owners when all they have really done is released a half a$$ port of one of their IPs. Now by year 3 its already 'legacy' meaning they are done putting in even 1/2 an effort.
Companies are proving that quality ports of last and current generation titles can be done on the Switch. 2K took the right approach bringing their entire current gen product (NBA2K) to the Switch in year one and then improving it and keeping parallel features in year two. Bethesda has shown that large and complex games like Skyrim can be ported and work properly, and what Panic button has now done with multiple Doom and Wolf games (and RocketL) is amazing. Other quality ports from current and last gen have come from the Japanese teams (Okami, FF games, Valk4).
So apparently everyone else can work with the Switch but EA.
Look folks, this has nothing to do with anything but EA having a failed and failing business model. The Switch will be over 50mil units by the end of this coming holiday season, and EA wants us to feel like we are the problem. If I was a shareholder (uh no) I would be questioning why, we as a company have no plan to sell to the hottest platform on the market. I mean the Switch is outselling ps4 and xb1 by multiple times each month and with the Light the Switch is going to continue to dominate monthly sales until late next year, yet EA no plans to capitalize. They are the losers in all this as I have to believe a quality Madden, FIFA, NFS, or Sims game would sell well on Switch.
So I say to EA what I said to my headcase girlfriend my freshman year of college. Sorry darling, its you, not me.
I have a switch and a ps4 and do not play any games from EA on either system
First of all, only a small portion of EA’s sports games are even on Switch. It’s just FIFA and...? No Madden, no NHL, no NBA Live, no UFC. So not even really sure what they are talking about to begin with. You can’t choose Switch over another platform when Switch versions don’t even exist.
The thing about football games is that you need to create the illusion that it's an unpredictable and beautiful game - just like the real thing - and not a set of algorithms and pre-defined actions and reactions - the reality.
PS4 and Xbox One manage to create this illusion.
The versions they have released on Switch to date simply do not. Whether it's the same commentary lines being repeated over and over again, the same goal post being hit, or scoring goals in the same way repeatedly, the Switch versions to date have just been a predictable mess that plays, and looks like something that is playing itself to a strict algorithm.
The illusion is very much lost on Switch. Hopefully they can fix this in the future. I doubt it though... it was the exact same with the PSP and PS Vita versions in the past. Just not the same addictive, pleasing football game that we get elsewhere.
Back in the good old 6th gen days, I would buy EA games for my GameCube. This was before they turned into the incompetent, bumbling idiots we know and hate today. EA knows their half-assed ports sell terrible, yet they continue to do this to look for reasons not to spend money on developing games for Nintendo consoles.
I have a great PC and still choose not to buy EA games at all, so it wouldn't matter to me if they released on Switch or not. I just don't support them.
That being said, what he's saying is stupid. Obviously people choose other systems when Switch isn't even a choice for the vast majority of their games.
There's some truth to this, but it's still a missed opportunity. I do play sports games and have another system that I'd prefer to play Madden/NHL on at home. That said, I'd love to have a portable copy to take with me. The Switch is a better portable than Vita/PSP/DS ever were and EA saw the value of releasing on those systems. So yes, home console gamers probably choose to play EA on a stronger home console if they have that. But portable gamers have no other choice. It would still sell a lot if released.
If it has "suprise mechanics" for a sense of "pride and accoplishment" I won't touch your game with a spoon.
@cammy "So why can you get the Sims 4 on PS4 when the best way to play it is with a keyboard and mouse? Hmm."
Sims 4 on PS4 has keyboard and mouse support...
EA has monopolized the sports market, in a very bad way. If people choose to play EA games on other platforms , it is only because the few games they released in the switch have been below par. I miss the days of Midway and games like NFL Blitz. Basically what I'm trying to say is.F*** EA!
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