@TwilightAngel It's entirely fine. I was, in attacking you, in the wrong. I was mostly annoyed that exactly because of all the things this game did right in my experience, it got such a low score. Especially when the predecessor got an 8, despite being the inferior game. A slightly clunky but great game, in my eyes, but definitely not as good as this one. My issue, with all coverage of this game, really, is that it all seems to come down to "we didn't pay attention to the story because the characters try to lighten the mood, and these boobs trigger me" with some moot criticism that usually doesn't add up to justify it like "it's a button masher". It's something that doesn't make me hate the game, but the reviewers that can't admit to having fun.
Basically, I overreacted to your comment. While your wording made it seem like you were saying something else, I shouldn't have been as mean-spirited as I was. All it did was turn me off from this site, because of this and a buildup of generally worse and worse reporting over time. The game is fine, and it will hold a special place in my heart for quite a while. But I'm out of this site once I stop receiving emails that someone responded to me in this comment section.
@WinterWarm Most peculiar that you show you know nothing about it by comparing it to fighting games though. It's like comparing Pokémon to Minecraft. It's a non-sequitur.
@Anon_Amous Exactly. This is both the power and the weakness of the internet: the pooling of culture. On one side it increases our range of ideas and allows us to slowly dissolve more and more cultural barriers. Yet on the other side, if we pool all culture, it is quite possible for social and linguistic viruses to spread unchecked...
@TheWPCTraveler I understand. My apologies. It's just frustrating to see a game I greatly appreciate and enjoy get a score so low when its great (yet clearly inferiour) predecessor got a high as heck score. It feels like a bit of the fairness previously afforded to the series was lost over time. However, I freely admit I was wrong in making a vocal complaint with a relative lack of substance, especially since the review is without substance, from what I am seeing. That was at least slightly hypocritical of me.
@TwilightAngel Did dumbing it down include messing up the grammar, or do you always do that? But fine, now that you've actually said what you were trying to say instead of messing your sentence up, I agree.
Well, you folks are dead to me. Been playing this game for a while now, and it's very clear your subjective opinions about fanservice got in the way of giving it the fair shot it deserves. The only thing that's actually wholly accurate is the admission that it's your subjective opinion on the nature of the sexual side of these sorts of things.
Looks like I'm gonna have to find another news site for my Nintendo news.
@EdJericho It's uh... Kinda self-evident in my case, haha. Her personality has just the right flaws, in my eyes. It makes sense based on where it's coming from, and the flaws really accentuate the good. It also helps that she and I share roughly the same flaws, haha...
@KKSlider Ah, what a profound response! What sheer poetry! It's like a rainbow inside of a- Yeah, that was sarcasm.
Like I said, I love your kind. All talk, but when push comes to shove, nothing. It's quite telling, actually. If you're gonna complain about a game, find something substantial. Talk about, say, the narrative falling to pieces in ZombiU whenever you respawn as a new survivor. Talk about Dead Space 3 completely losing its appeal because of the shift from horror to action. Talk about the fact Game & Wario was sold at full price at first. What you're doing is nothing but a whine that can't be backed up with actual facts, unless people suddenly started taking gender studies degrees seriously all of a sudden. At the very least, improve your vocabulary if you're gonna try to deflect criticisms about your whine, it will make for a more eloquent load of woo.
@DarthNocturnal Hm. I believe I may have slightly misjudged you in that previous comment just now. Still, you did a poor job of conveying the nuance you added just now in your previous comment. May want to improve on that a little, if you want to avoid misunderstandings.
However, I'll have you know this is one of those games that not only "can" be good, but by most standards simply is. There's a reason this series is actually where it's at now.
@Crimzonlogic Alas, that's the nature of supply and demand. Unfortunately, men and boys are more visual in most cases, and because of that there's a higher demand for this kind of stuff. I would actually like it more if there were more similar games appealing to heterosexual women and homosexual men, but alas. I would probably buy a few of those out of curiousity... But hey, at least anime has that area covered for the most part, like some other comment pointed out.
And there's also a playable guy in the DLC for SK2. Probably gonna play as him fairly often, if only because I like his personality. He's in the wrong in most instances where he appears, but I do like him. His anger, while unjustified, is understandable. A relatable characters is always better than, say, a Mary Sue. Also, wow, digressing, haha...
@DarthNocturnal How typical. "It has one trait I don't like, so all traits must objectively be bad!" Man, how I wish that was a strawman, instead of a common argument... Why do people always throw the baby out with the bathwater...? Oh well, no skin off my back. I'm not the person missing out on the hidden gems, after all.
What a vindictive... Sorry, for what ages is this site? Well, what a vindictive b****. I don't know the circumstances behind the divorce, but judging from the way she wrote that description I get the feeling she was at fault. I can't say for certain, but if this is one's reaction to the actual divorce at hand, I can see why the divorce happened in the first place. This scheit is why I'm avoiding marriage like the plague.
@Yorumi But why can't people be satisfied without it? You're right in that it's "ok" to do. But then what? Link is a character anyone can project him or herself onto already, regardless of gender. How much enjoyment would longer hair and slightly different voice clips actually give that wouldn't be there normally? The happiness spread by doing so is absolutely minimal, to the point where changing it up is not worth the effort. When it doesn't change anything, there's no reason to change it. There is no urgency, no missed revenue, absolutely nothing calling for change.
@Highwinter But there's also no reason for them to be female. It's something incredibly trivial, so why change it? And to be clear, I actually meant it like that as well. There are arguably more well-written female characters than male ones in gaming, and I see no issue with that. I also wouldn't see an issue if we were living in a world where the opposite would be true. I could name at least 25 strong female characters off the top of my head, but for well-written male characters I actually need to think for a bit.
And your point about there being many characters is kind of a moot one. We already had Hyrule Warriors pretty recently, and it's not like we're missing out on anything like this. If anything, the theme of weird fashion is more interesting to me than having multiple different characters, as this gives it a more unique touch.
Once more, a fuss over literally nothing. It's not like there are a buttload of powerful female characters basically everywhere else already or anything, and it's totally not like it makes an actual difference in any significant way if Link were to change genders. Oh, wait, it actually would have a significant effect: it would go against the creative intentions behind the art. Honestly, why are we even talking about something so self-evidently stupid...? Why does every character need to be female when we arguably have more deep and poweful female characters than male ones already anyway? Sheesh.
@Metafalica Well, I hope you enjoy it then. I mean, I wouldn't want to live in a country where they want to implement "feminist foreign policy" (whatever that's supposed to mean), but of course it can't be all bad. Pretty much every country, except places like North Korea, have at least some redeeming factors. I mean, my country is going to s*** as well, but at least it's a lot better than a lot of other places.
@Quorthon "There yah go, champ. All heavily sourced at that." There are indeed a lot of sources, but in most cases they're rather empty, misinterpretations or even just simply wrong. It has the general outline roughly right-ish, but it's pretty inadequate.
"By the way, "journalists" weren't the people sending death threats to women. It was gamergaters." And this is exactly the place your post falls flat on its face in its entirely. Proof, mate. Evidence or it didn't happen. And I mean more than just "oh this woman said that...". Considering most of those professional victims are simply charlatans, their word alone is inadequate. As a perfect example, Brianna Wu claimed she got threats from Gamergate, but it turned out that the person sending those threats had absolutely nothing to do with Gamergate.
Also, those death threats are almost completely irrelevant, if they're even real. Gamergaters received harassment and death threats too, people of both genders. I'm going to be charitable and say it's probably third party trolls, but it's just as easy to claim your side does that scheit. I could probably make a better case for the Aggros to be worse in that sense, but I'm afraid this is getting far, far off topic.
The only people in GG that claim it's leftism behind it all are a tiny minority of far-righters. And everybody that actually did some research into GG knows that it consists of mostly left-leaning libertarians, so you're talking complete bollocks.
Yes and no. Authoritarians that keep advocating for changes for "inclusivity" that minorities didn't acutally ask for while pressuring game developers through shaming tactics and the like is quite frankly appalling. Cronyism is also appalling, and it takes almost no time to find examples of this. Then you also have things like the Game Journos Pros list. Classic. I recommend watching Sargon of Akkad's videos the most, he does a great job of explaining the situation and he generally sources his videos well.
Also, evidence, mate. You can claim that they posted it and then deleted it, but that's a rather odd claim to make without any evidence to back it up. First, prove they were made. Then, prove they were by GG'ers. You'll have a hard time doing so, and it doesn't exactly help that it'll likely come down to cherry picking, considering the sheer difference in numbers between GG'ers that are and aren't sexist.
And I won't respond to your first "point", because it's quite the incoherent mess. Simplify the sentence so it doesn't come across as meaningless drivel, please.
It was the journalists that portrayed gamers like that and then continued to go on about how bad the effects of Gamergate were. The blind, schizophrenic panic of saying "you're scum!" without any evidence and then going on to say "oh, woe is us, the reputation of gamers is dead" when they caused it in the first place is just ridiculous.
"And again, they sided with Neo-Nazis and child porn distributors and conspiracy theorist lunatics like Alex Jones."
Citation needed. Though I do know a guy from anti-Gamergate that actually spread that stuff. Funny, isn't it? In fact, I recently heard that the paedophilia community is, for a good chunk, anti-Gamergate because of Gawker defending paedos once. Isn't is lovely how your view is incorrect on every level? You can look those things up, I couldn't come up with this level of weirdness if I tried.
Sweden: a hellhole of self hatred, political correctness turned up to eleven, and radical feminism all wrapped up in a blanket of "inclusivity" and "multiculturalism". Way to demonize the male sexuality and make an issue out out of absolutely nothing, Sweden. Just flat out amazing. Sweden is what happens if you take away all the good things the EU does have and leave only the disastrous nonsense: Sweden.
@Squid It is heavily, heavily implied by the guy taking offense to such a minor thing. Just because the specific word isn't used, that doesn't mean the meaning isn't implied. Essentially saying that you can't portray a character in such a way is clearly an attempt to accuse Nintendo of being racist, or having been racist at the time. "You're better than that" implies that there was a wrongdoing of some sort. And let's be honest; there wasn't. A loosely insensitive portrayal of a stereotype is not wrong, it's just kind of 'meh'.
@Squid I know right? Too many people claiming this stuff is racist, without even understanding the bare basics of what constitutes as actual racism. Too many feels, too few reals. A bunch of stereotypes are no big deal, it'd be the exact same as me throwing a hissyfit about the stereotype of basement dwelling gamers that drink nothing but Mountain Dew and only eat Doritos.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the word racist is losing its meaning. You can see it happen with words like misogynist as well: people use it when describing such trivial nonsense, and so eventually the boy will have cried wolf one too many time. Ironically, this is the kind of stuff that will let actual racists get away later down the line.
Changing what isn't broken for the sake of a group that isn't interested in the first place is as dumb an idea as it comes. Those that aren't buying what's on there now won't be buying different stuff either, so there's only a higher chance of failure when pandering to those that aren't buying it now.
If Barbie games aren't selling well with boys, should everything suddenly become blue and sporty in order to make both genders buy it? If anything, changing it up will only make it so that the people originally buying it won't like it anymore, while those that didn't buy it before aren't likely to buy it now either.
The guy brings up some interesting points, but the last point is nonsense. All "solutions" to a nearly non-existant problem are very, very unlikely to actually make a positive change.
@Vincent294 Fair enough. It wasn't my intention to throw accusations around willy nilly, so if it came across like that, my apologies.
@DiscoGentleman If that was the impression I gave you, my apologies for that. However, what I meant to say is that an ideology in general can be s***, but that not all people in it are by default. Let me just pull up the classic example of religion: Judaism has a lot, and I mean a lot of awful stuff attached to its name. However, that doesn't mean jews are bad people by default, far from it. See where I'm trying to go with this? Even if someone follows the general lines of an idea that also includes a lot of awful nonsense (like killing your child to prove your loyalty to God, or the mentality of "guilty until proven innocent"), that doesn't mean that he or she actually agrees with those details.
Honestly, this old discussion... Feminism is a betrayed revolution. Almost anyone that takes some time to look into its present state will see that it has just gone downhill in the last few years. At the very least I recommend looking into the vile s*** that has been said under the banner of feminism. A classic example that comes to mind is Hilary Clinton saying that women are the primary victims of war. I could probably dig up some more 'gems' like that, if anyone is interested for whatever reason. In some way, I guess it's the fate of all ideologies to succumb to extremism...
Point being (and one I unfortunately have some trouble articulating): don't attach so much worth to a title. What someone identifies as does not make one a bigot, racist or sexist by default. Whether someone is pro or anti feminism doesn't mean jack until you actually hear what they specifically say. While I'd argue feminism is a bad thing these days, I don't think it's reasonable to attack someone solely on the basis of him/her being a feminist. If you have an ideology, try not to be blinded by it. This applies to both people and claims; don't trust someone blindly because he or she has the same ideology as you. And if someone else claims to have an ideology you disagree with, try asking about his/her actual thoughts before judging said person. It would be lazy to do otherwise. I'm not necessarily saying that this has already been happening here, but it's a pitfall anyone should be aware of.
If any part of my post seems particularly unreasonable, please tell me. Best case scenario is that I get a good point thrown at me, worst case scenario is that I'll have to elaborate on my views. More or less a win-win situation, as far as I'm concerned. I just hope I won't be treated with the same lack of maturity that has been displayed here by both sides, but if that happens, nothing I can do about it, I guess.
I hate s*** like this. Worst part is that it's almost impossible to get down to the full truth, because it's someone's word against someone else's in most cases. There is rarely any concrete evidence supporting either side, meaning it's essentially a coin toss.
I guess that it's a relatively safe bet against him this time around, considering "ChiboSempai" his claims, but even then it's hard to tell whether said person has a grudge or something along those lines. It's such a pain how nothing can be taken at face value in situations like these.
Still, in this case it seems like a decent bet to say he's guilty, at least to some degree. I'd say that they should keep it at this though, I consider the evidence enough to kick him out, but not enough for a freaking lynching mob.
@Octane While the feminist movement has created a lot of issues, I don't think this is one of them. A case can be made for it causing the mentality of guilty until proven innocent, but I don't think this specific instance has too direct a relation to that mindset. As long as we don't form the aforementioned lynching mob before any concrete evidence pops up, I don't think it's reasonable to pin the blame on the feminists this time around.
Unless that lynching mob has already been forming on Twitter and the like, in which case I'll eat my words.
Practically impossible, but I'd like to see Senran Kagura 2 news. I know it's a bit too... Different for a Nintendo Direct, but one can always dream. Whether those dreams are then violently crushed or not is a different story entirely...
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Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
@TwilightAngel It's entirely fine. I was, in attacking you, in the wrong. I was mostly annoyed that exactly because of all the things this game did right in my experience, it got such a low score. Especially when the predecessor got an 8, despite being the inferior game. A slightly clunky but great game, in my eyes, but definitely not as good as this one. My issue, with all coverage of this game, really, is that it all seems to come down to "we didn't pay attention to the story because the characters try to lighten the mood, and these boobs trigger me" with some moot criticism that usually doesn't add up to justify it like "it's a button masher". It's something that doesn't make me hate the game, but the reviewers that can't admit to having fun.
Basically, I overreacted to your comment. While your wording made it seem like you were saying something else, I shouldn't have been as mean-spirited as I was. All it did was turn me off from this site, because of this and a buildup of generally worse and worse reporting over time. The game is fine, and it will hold a special place in my heart for quite a while. But I'm out of this site once I stop receiving emails that someone responded to me in this comment section.
Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
@WinterWarm Most peculiar that you show you know nothing about it by comparing it to fighting games though. It's like comparing Pokémon to Minecraft. It's a non-sequitur.
@Anon_Amous Exactly. This is both the power and the weakness of the internet: the pooling of culture. On one side it increases our range of ideas and allows us to slowly dissolve more and more cultural barriers. Yet on the other side, if we pool all culture, it is quite possible for social and linguistic viruses to spread unchecked...
Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
@TheWPCTraveler I understand. My apologies. It's just frustrating to see a game I greatly appreciate and enjoy get a score so low when its great (yet clearly inferiour) predecessor got a high as heck score. It feels like a bit of the fairness previously afforded to the series was lost over time. However, I freely admit I was wrong in making a vocal complaint with a relative lack of substance, especially since the review is without substance, from what I am seeing. That was at least slightly hypocritical of me.
Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
@TwilightAngel Did dumbing it down include messing up the grammar, or do you always do that? But fine, now that you've actually said what you were trying to say instead of messing your sentence up, I agree.
Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
@TwilightAngel I like how you directly contradict yourself in your comment and then take the high ground, despite confirming my point. Top kek.
Re: Review: SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson (3DS)
Well, you folks are dead to me. Been playing this game for a while now, and it's very clear your subjective opinions about fanservice got in the way of giving it the fair shot it deserves. The only thing that's actually wholly accurate is the admission that it's your subjective opinion on the nature of the sexual side of these sorts of things.
Looks like I'm gonna have to find another news site for my Nintendo news.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@Ryu_Niiyama They actually acknowledge that on multiple occasions in the game, so there's that.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@EdJericho It's uh... Kinda self-evident in my case, haha. Her personality has just the right flaws, in my eyes. It makes sense based on where it's coming from, and the flaws really accentuate the good. It also helps that she and I share roughly the same flaws, haha...
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@KKSlider Ah, what a profound response! What sheer poetry! It's like a rainbow inside of a- Yeah, that was sarcasm.
Like I said, I love your kind. All talk, but when push comes to shove, nothing. It's quite telling, actually. If you're gonna complain about a game, find something substantial. Talk about, say, the narrative falling to pieces in ZombiU whenever you respawn as a new survivor. Talk about Dead Space 3 completely losing its appeal because of the shift from horror to action. Talk about the fact Game & Wario was sold at full price at first. What you're doing is nothing but a whine that can't be backed up with actual facts, unless people suddenly started taking gender studies degrees seriously all of a sudden. At the very least, improve your vocabulary if you're gonna try to deflect criticisms about your whine, it will make for a more eloquent load of woo.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@DarthNocturnal Hm. I believe I may have slightly misjudged you in that previous comment just now. Still, you did a poor job of conveying the nuance you added just now in your previous comment. May want to improve on that a little, if you want to avoid misunderstandings.
However, I'll have you know this is one of those games that not only "can" be good, but by most standards simply is. There's a reason this series is actually where it's at now.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@Crimzonlogic Alas, that's the nature of supply and demand. Unfortunately, men and boys are more visual in most cases, and because of that there's a higher demand for this kind of stuff. I would actually like it more if there were more similar games appealing to heterosexual women and homosexual men, but alas. I would probably buy a few of those out of curiousity... But hey, at least anime has that area covered for the most part, like some other comment pointed out.
And there's also a playable guy in the DLC for SK2. Probably gonna play as him fairly often, if only because I like his personality. He's in the wrong in most instances where he appears, but I do like him. His anger, while unjustified, is understandable. A relatable characters is always better than, say, a Mary Sue. Also, wow, digressing, haha...
@DarthNocturnal
How typical. "It has one trait I don't like, so all traits must objectively be bad!" Man, how I wish that was a strawman, instead of a common argument... Why do people always throw the baby out with the bathwater...? Oh well, no skin off my back. I'm not the person missing out on the hidden gems, after all.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
Man, I love this guy. He really gets where it's at.
Let's be more constructive in our responses -Lz
Re: Weirdness: Revenge is a Dish Best Sold on eBay, as This EarthBound Sale Shows
What a vindictive... Sorry, for what ages is this site? Well, what a vindictive b****. I don't know the circumstances behind the divorce, but judging from the way she wrote that description I get the feeling she was at fault. I can't say for certain, but if this is one's reaction to the actual divorce at hand, I can see why the divorce happened in the first place. This scheit is why I'm avoiding marriage like the plague.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Director Defends Absence of Female Playable Characters
@Yorumi But why can't people be satisfied without it? You're right in that it's "ok" to do. But then what? Link is a character anyone can project him or herself onto already, regardless of gender. How much enjoyment would longer hair and slightly different voice clips actually give that wouldn't be there normally? The happiness spread by doing so is absolutely minimal, to the point where changing it up is not worth the effort. When it doesn't change anything, there's no reason to change it. There is no urgency, no missed revenue, absolutely nothing calling for change.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Director Defends Absence of Female Playable Characters
@ZenTurtle Exactly. It would have no impact. So why would they change it? It affects literally no one that isn't obsessed with genitals.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Director Defends Absence of Female Playable Characters
@Highwinter But there's also no reason for them to be female. It's something incredibly trivial, so why change it? And to be clear, I actually meant it like that as well. There are arguably more well-written female characters than male ones in gaming, and I see no issue with that. I also wouldn't see an issue if we were living in a world where the opposite would be true. I could name at least 25 strong female characters off the top of my head, but for well-written male characters I actually need to think for a bit.
And your point about there being many characters is kind of a moot one. We already had Hyrule Warriors pretty recently, and it's not like we're missing out on anything like this. If anything, the theme of weird fashion is more interesting to me than having multiple different characters, as this gives it a more unique touch.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Director Defends Absence of Female Playable Characters
Once more, a fuss over literally nothing. It's not like there are a buttload of powerful female characters basically everywhere else already or anything, and it's totally not like it makes an actual difference in any significant way if Link were to change genders. Oh, wait, it actually would have a significant effect: it would go against the creative intentions behind the art. Honestly, why are we even talking about something so self-evidently stupid...? Why does every character need to be female when we arguably have more deep and poweful female characters than male ones already anyway? Sheesh.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Producer Confirms More Characters Are Coming to Hyrule Warriors Legends
Is the Groose loose yet?
Re: Swedish Newspaper Questions The European Release Of Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson
@Metafalica Well, I hope you enjoy it then. I mean, I wouldn't want to live in a country where they want to implement "feminist foreign policy" (whatever that's supposed to mean), but of course it can't be all bad. Pretty much every country, except places like North Korea, have at least some redeeming factors. I mean, my country is going to s*** as well, but at least it's a lot better than a lot of other places.
@Quorthon
"There yah go, champ. All heavily sourced at that."
There are indeed a lot of sources, but in most cases they're rather empty, misinterpretations or even just simply wrong. It has the general outline roughly right-ish, but it's pretty inadequate.
"By the way, "journalists" weren't the people sending death threats to women. It was gamergaters."
And this is exactly the place your post falls flat on its face in its entirely. Proof, mate. Evidence or it didn't happen. And I mean more than just "oh this woman said that...". Considering most of those professional victims are simply charlatans, their word alone is inadequate. As a perfect example, Brianna Wu claimed she got threats from Gamergate, but it turned out that the person sending those threats had absolutely nothing to do with Gamergate.
Also, those death threats are almost completely irrelevant, if they're even real. Gamergaters received harassment and death threats too, people of both genders. I'm going to be charitable and say it's probably third party trolls, but it's just as easy to claim your side does that scheit. I could probably make a better case for the Aggros to be worse in that sense, but I'm afraid this is getting far, far off topic.
Re: Swedish Newspaper Questions The European Release Of Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson
@MadAdam81 Whoo, strawmen, amazing.
The only people in GG that claim it's leftism behind it all are a tiny minority of far-righters. And everybody that actually did some research into GG knows that it consists of mostly left-leaning libertarians, so you're talking complete bollocks.
Yes and no. Authoritarians that keep advocating for changes for "inclusivity" that minorities didn't acutally ask for while pressuring game developers through shaming tactics and the like is quite frankly appalling. Cronyism is also appalling, and it takes almost no time to find examples of this. Then you also have things like the Game Journos Pros list. Classic. I recommend watching Sargon of Akkad's videos the most, he does a great job of explaining the situation and he generally sources his videos well.
Also, evidence, mate. You can claim that they posted it and then deleted it, but that's a rather odd claim to make without any evidence to back it up. First, prove they were made. Then, prove they were by GG'ers. You'll have a hard time doing so, and it doesn't exactly help that it'll likely come down to cherry picking, considering the sheer difference in numbers between GG'ers that are and aren't sexist.
And I won't respond to your first "point", because it's quite the incoherent mess. Simplify the sentence so it doesn't come across as meaningless drivel, please.
Re: Swedish Newspaper Questions The European Release Of Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson
@Quorthon Lies and slander.
It was the journalists that portrayed gamers like that and then continued to go on about how bad the effects of Gamergate were. The blind, schizophrenic panic of saying "you're scum!" without any evidence and then going on to say "oh, woe is us, the reputation of gamers is dead" when they caused it in the first place is just ridiculous.
"And again, they sided with Neo-Nazis and child porn distributors and conspiracy theorist lunatics like Alex Jones."
Citation needed. Though I do know a guy from anti-Gamergate that actually spread that stuff. Funny, isn't it? In fact, I recently heard that the paedophilia community is, for a good chunk, anti-Gamergate because of Gawker defending paedos once. Isn't is lovely how your view is incorrect on every level? You can look those things up, I couldn't come up with this level of weirdness if I tried.
Re: Swedish Newspaper Questions The European Release Of Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson
Sweden: a hellhole of self hatred, political correctness turned up to eleven, and radical feminism all wrapped up in a blanket of "inclusivity" and "multiculturalism". Way to demonize the male sexuality and make an issue out out of absolutely nothing, Sweden. Just flat out amazing. Sweden is what happens if you take away all the good things the EU does have and leave only the disastrous nonsense: Sweden.
Re: Ubisoft's Unreleased and Finished Wii U Game Has Apparently Been Identified
Thank goodness, I thought we may have missed out on anything interesting. Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
Re: Video: YouTube's Gaming Historian Takes Offense At One Element Of Mario's Game Boy Past
@Squid Fair enough.
Re: Video: YouTube's Gaming Historian Takes Offense At One Element Of Mario's Game Boy Past
@Squid It is heavily, heavily implied by the guy taking offense to such a minor thing. Just because the specific word isn't used, that doesn't mean the meaning isn't implied. Essentially saying that you can't portray a character in such a way is clearly an attempt to accuse Nintendo of being racist, or having been racist at the time. "You're better than that" implies that there was a wrongdoing of some sort. And let's be honest; there wasn't. A loosely insensitive portrayal of a stereotype is not wrong, it's just kind of 'meh'.
Re: Video: YouTube's Gaming Historian Takes Offense At One Element Of Mario's Game Boy Past
@Squid I know right? Too many people claiming this stuff is racist, without even understanding the bare basics of what constitutes as actual racism. Too many feels, too few reals. A bunch of stereotypes are no big deal, it'd be the exact same as me throwing a hissyfit about the stereotype of basement dwelling gamers that drink nothing but Mountain Dew and only eat Doritos.
Re: Video: YouTube's Gaming Historian Takes Offense At One Element Of Mario's Game Boy Past
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the word racist is losing its meaning. You can see it happen with words like misogynist as well: people use it when describing such trivial nonsense, and so eventually the boy will have cried wolf one too many time. Ironically, this is the kind of stuff that will let actual racists get away later down the line.
Re: Former Nintendo Indie Champion Discusses the Company's Decision Making and the eShop Gender Divide
Changing what isn't broken for the sake of a group that isn't interested in the first place is as dumb an idea as it comes. Those that aren't buying what's on there now won't be buying different stuff either, so there's only a higher chance of failure when pandering to those that aren't buying it now.
If Barbie games aren't selling well with boys, should everything suddenly become blue and sporty in order to make both genders buy it? If anything, changing it up will only make it so that the people originally buying it won't like it anymore, while those that didn't buy it before aren't likely to buy it now either.
The guy brings up some interesting points, but the last point is nonsense. All "solutions" to a nearly non-existant problem are very, very unlikely to actually make a positive change.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Tournament Organiser Steps Down Following Allegations Of Sexual Harassment
@Vincent294 Fair enough. It wasn't my intention to throw accusations around willy nilly, so if it came across like that, my apologies.
@DiscoGentleman If that was the impression I gave you, my apologies for that. However, what I meant to say is that an ideology in general can be s***, but that not all people in it are by default. Let me just pull up the classic example of religion: Judaism has a lot, and I mean a lot of awful stuff attached to its name. However, that doesn't mean jews are bad people by default, far from it. See where I'm trying to go with this? Even if someone follows the general lines of an idea that also includes a lot of awful nonsense (like killing your child to prove your loyalty to God, or the mentality of "guilty until proven innocent"), that doesn't mean that he or she actually agrees with those details.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Tournament Organiser Steps Down Following Allegations Of Sexual Harassment
Honestly, this old discussion... Feminism is a betrayed revolution. Almost anyone that takes some time to look into its present state will see that it has just gone downhill in the last few years. At the very least I recommend looking into the vile s*** that has been said under the banner of feminism. A classic example that comes to mind is Hilary Clinton saying that women are the primary victims of war. I could probably dig up some more 'gems' like that, if anyone is interested for whatever reason. In some way, I guess it's the fate of all ideologies to succumb to extremism...
Point being (and one I unfortunately have some trouble articulating): don't attach so much worth to a title. What someone identifies as does not make one a bigot, racist or sexist by default. Whether someone is pro or anti feminism doesn't mean jack until you actually hear what they specifically say. While I'd argue feminism is a bad thing these days, I don't think it's reasonable to attack someone solely on the basis of him/her being a feminist. If you have an ideology, try not to be blinded by it. This applies to both people and claims; don't trust someone blindly because he or she has the same ideology as you. And if someone else claims to have an ideology you disagree with, try asking about his/her actual thoughts before judging said person. It would be lazy to do otherwise. I'm not necessarily saying that this has already been happening here, but it's a pitfall anyone should be aware of.
If any part of my post seems particularly unreasonable, please tell me. Best case scenario is that I get a good point thrown at me, worst case scenario is that I'll have to elaborate on my views. More or less a win-win situation, as far as I'm concerned. I just hope I won't be treated with the same lack of maturity that has been displayed here by both sides, but if that happens, nothing I can do about it, I guess.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Tournament Organiser Steps Down Following Allegations Of Sexual Harassment
I hate s*** like this. Worst part is that it's almost impossible to get down to the full truth, because it's someone's word against someone else's in most cases. There is rarely any concrete evidence supporting either side, meaning it's essentially a coin toss.
I guess that it's a relatively safe bet against him this time around, considering "ChiboSempai" his claims, but even then it's hard to tell whether said person has a grudge or something along those lines. It's such a pain how nothing can be taken at face value in situations like these.
Still, in this case it seems like a decent bet to say he's guilty, at least to some degree. I'd say that they should keep it at this though, I consider the evidence enough to kick him out, but not enough for a freaking lynching mob.
@Octane While the feminist movement has created a lot of issues, I don't think this is one of them. A case can be made for it causing the mentality of guilty until proven innocent, but I don't think this specific instance has too direct a relation to that mindset. As long as we don't form the aforementioned lynching mob before any concrete evidence pops up, I don't think it's reasonable to pin the blame on the feminists this time around.
Unless that lynching mob has already been forming on Twitter and the like, in which case I'll eat my words.
Re: Feature: Five Key Reveals We Want in 2015's First Nintendo Direct
Practically impossible, but I'd like to see Senran Kagura 2 news. I know it's a bit too... Different for a Nintendo Direct, but one can always dream. Whether those dreams are then violently crushed or not is a different story entirely...