Using sex appeal to sell games is nothing new in the industry, even to the point where the games can become questionable in their intention; SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson falls into this category. Its predecessor was a solid enough fighting game with themes that, shall we say, appeal to a particular demographic. Can the sequel improve upon the original?
As before, Deep Crimson mixes together 3D combat with story sequences told out via cutscenes which are frequent and long, but generally nicely presented - particularly the introduction sequence which takes advantage of full-motion video to breathe real life into the characters and the world they inhabit. In-game graphics are similarly well-rendered, some of which may be to a fault, but we'll get on to that later. The only exception to this are the drastically uninspired levels you fight in, which are stereotypical and lacking in flair; they're not even particularly nice to look at, often being copied and pasted over and over again to increase the length of a level. When there's a lot going on at once the frame rate does tend to drop, but on the whole this is a smoother experience than the first 3DS offering.
The gameplay functions like a fairly down-to-earth hack and slash or beat-em-up, with enclosed areas full of enemies that need to be defeated before progress can be made. This is the bread and butter of the gameplay, and unfortunately as solid and responsive as it is, it's rather repetitive. There are various combos and different moves that you can execute, but the standard string of moves you perform from rapidly hitting the quick attack button are more than sufficient to clear out a room nine times out of ten. You can charge up and unleash special attacks as well, but they feel wasted on such weak foes.
Thankfully the gameplay shifts up a gear once you reach the first main fight and the difficulty spikes. This may be a bit of a shock for some people, and you'll likely die several times before snatching victory. When you die, however, you're sent right back to the start of that level, meaning you once again have to fight through hordes of enemies before having another chance. There's nothing inherently wrong with this as a design choice, but it does become frustrating after a while.
These battles are the only time when the special moves are really worth using, and should you neglect to make the most of them you can quickly be punished, likewise should you time a dodge poorly or put yourself in the wrong position for too long. This is where the game is strongest, and there are fleeting glimpses of a stronger, nay great fighting game trying to come through. These glimpses are soon eclipsed by the drastically simple AI which, although competent in catching you off guard, is easily outwitted once you see their pattern of attack a few times. It's such a shame as the gameplay in these boss fights is so close to being really good, but is hampered by a lack of polish.
At certain points you'll be paired up with another character in a tag team that you can switch between at will by pressing the A button. When not selected the other character is controlled by the AI which is as basic as what you've encountered when fighting other named characters, only this time they're even more limited so as not to make mincemeat of the opponents. The opponents don't seem to increase their challenge or health to balance the two-on-one situations, but if your partner should die it's game over. This make a nice change but it doesn't really do much to aid the gameplay other than give the game an excuse to load in twice as many enemies.
This feature also stretches to co-op multiplayer through local wireless and over the internet. It's nice to have a competent partner fighting alongside you; there's no real way to communicate properly, but that's not really an issue when you're simply slapping seven shades out of a group of foes. It's a shame you can't fight each other online in typical fighting game style, but it's nice to see some multiplayer nonetheless.
Yes, there's an enormous elephant in the room that we've not fully addressed yet, and if you happen to be of a sensitive disposition you'll probably do yourself a favour by simply skipping to the conclusion if you haven't already. The game is filled to the brim with overtly sexual themes, and we feel that these elements are what received the most attention from the development team, causing the rest of the experience to miss out on its full potential. Instead of occasional spurts of blood or perhaps showing some sort of cosmetic damage to your character when you lose health, their clothing is torn away, revealing everything that isn't covered up by skimpy underwear. The animation and modelling is undeniably well done for the 3DS, but by the same token we were left feeling somewhat uncomfortable with the amount of focus this aspect of the game was getting - for example, defeated characters can be ogled at using the 3DS console's motion sensor, which just seems wrong. Having said that, this is clearly what the game is designed for, and so from a purely objective perspective it's impressive - on a more subjective note it all feels rather seedy and a little perverted.
The relentless obsession with including as much content surrounding this theme as possible also leads to some crushingly cringe-worthy dialogue. The majority of it is absolutely fine, but when tracking down a group of foes we don't really want to hear one of the main characters command "Point me in the direction of their boobs!". The entire game feels like a 13-year-old boy's fantasy and for having such adult themes is ironically childish in many instances. It would be easy to knock the series for its portrayal of its characters and arguably unnecessary fixation on their assets, but the entire purpose of this game is to do just that, for better of for worse, so in the interest of being as neutral as possible we've decided to score the game by the gameplay alone.
Conclusion
SENRAN KAGURA 2: Deep Crimson is a reasonably solid fighting game with some decent presentation and consistent performance in 2D, but is hampered by repetitive enemies and uninspired combat mechanics for the most part. It's not easy to recommend for these reasons, but if you happen to be looking for some mindless enemy mowing action interspersed with occasional challenge from boss fights, you could do worse. If you want it, try and pick it up on the cheap.
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Well, you folks are dead to me. Been playing this game for a while now, and it's very clear your subjective opinions about fanservice got in the way of giving it the fair shot it deserves. The only thing that's actually wholly accurate is the admission that it's your subjective opinion on the nature of the sexual side of these sorts of things.
Looks like I'm gonna have to find another news site for my Nintendo news.
I'm sorry but this review is inherently wrong. This game is half visual novel, half beat em' up and you have only rated the beat em' up half. This completely shows the writers bias against the MAIN theme of the game and maybe NL should find a writer who will review the game as a whole and give it an unbiased review.
Back in a minute chaps, I'm just going to grab some popcorn and a comfy chair.
Pretty weird how this gets a 6 while Burst gets an 8. Eh whatever, I'll still be getting the game regardless of what people may say since I've been interested in this ever since its initial announcement.
I'll be playing Devil's Third before getting seriously into SK2, but the "Point me in the direction of their boobs!" line sounds like Katsuragi.
I don't understand the appeal. I'm not trying to be offensive, but do any of you 'fans' of this game actually have real girlfriends? Even if you answer yes, I'll assume you're fibbing.
He didn't like the game. Too bad. It's his opinion. Get over it. I wouldn't even consider 6/10 a "bad" game. He gave good criticisms, maybe the game is a bit repetitive. Even if he explicitly said "the fan service is completely in your face and gets annoying", so what? He can say that and that's a perfectly good reason to dislike a game.
I'd swear with some of these comments ("you're dead to me" "you're just objectively wrong" etc.) that this was a clickbait article on how murder was justifiable in certain situations or something.
@AlexOlney And I'm going to get some coffee, going to be a long one.
@Jazzer94 Bring two mugs.
So the first game gets an 8/10 while the sequel (which is better in every way) gets a 6/10? Yeah, okay. This is why review scores have no impact on my decision to purchase.
@Jazzer94 @AlexOlney Make that three.
I'm glad Chrizzel28:s comment is on the top.
@Jazzer94 @AlexOlney @Inkling Four. Although you might have to send it by mail.
Different reviewers = different opinions just leaving this here for people complaining how the score is lower than the first, also this is why it is good to read multiple reviews expressing multiple opinions.
And what's with these sadistic internet kids?
"This review is inherently wrong"
A review is someone's opinion. It can't be wrong.
@Moon That's because you are simply not the target audience. You'll be surprised that some girls I know even enjoying this game
"Point me in the direction of her boobs"
Sold!
Okay, maybe not. But I'll probably still get the game, and the breast-slider DLC. If I have enough money and/or I bother to uninstall and reinstall Ironhax.
@Inkling It's inherently wrong since it's calling SK a fighting game.
@Inkling I'm not saying that his opinion is wrong but that if you are reviewing something you should review all aspects of it and not just part.
@AlexOlney
A few questions:
1. How long is the game? How much of it is gameplay, and how much of it is plot?
2. How far did you get into the game?
3. How good is the plot? The review for Burst mentions a good plot, but was there any character development, etc?
3.14. Life or Hometown?
4. How good is the music?
EDIT: ALL PUNS UNINTENDED EXCEPT THOSE INTENDED
@Moon Yes, I actually do, apparently.
She happens to be rather...flat, but I don't care. I love her for who she is.
Heck, the SK character who I like the most is...Mirai, of all people.
@TheWPCTraveler Last night was taken up with getting to grips with Devil's Third in single- and multi-player, but I stuck Disc 1 of the Senran Kagura 2 OST on before bed, and I loved what I heard.
@EllenJMiller That's nice. If I find the physical LE, then, that's an insta-buy.
Grrr, I'm still hunting down the LE for Soul Hackers...
@Dawn-Shade That's strange. You'd think with me being a huge 3DS fan, a fan of Japanese anime/manga and a straight male that I'd be the perfect target audience.
@AlexOlney - Haha. You realise if you don't say this game is a 9/10 the people who bought it might have to admit they came for the sex appeal, not the (mediocre) gameplay.
cough I mean, yeah. Best fighting game ever. I'm sure everyone plays it for the articles...
@abbyhitter @Iggly - The two reviews were written by two different people, with different opinions.
This series is trash and that headline couldn't summarize all of it any better.
Mindless button mashing with tits is just an easy way to make money with basement-dwelling weeaboos. It's pathetic.
@TheWPCTraveler 1. I would say it's about 60% gameplay to 40% plot.
3. Pretty plain to be honest, it's certainly not a bad narrative (bar the occasional appalling dialogue) but it's definitely not engaging enough to be 'good'. A lot of this is due to the ludicrous abundance of named characters you're expected to remember, it's like reading the Silmarillion, only with fewer Númenorians.
3.14. Whichever one doesn't have the irritating child-like character with the ultrasonic voice.
4. It's fine, probably a spot above average but it's no Shovel Knight.
All puns should be intended.
@AlexOlney I feel disappointed when you didn't catch the reference, but pay it no heed. I'm satisfied by the answers.
Just...two more questions. One of them is something that should be factored into every 3DS software review, anyway.
1. How much time did you spend on the review copy? Proof via the Activity Log software would be nice.
2. How is the 3D handled? Does it make things pop out? Does it attempt to set the action back an inch or two? Are the animated sequences 3D, like Lord of Magna?
I recognize that I may be imposing myself upon you, but I honestly think a lot of this should be mentioned in reviews. How much time the game is supposed to take to complete, how far the reviewer got into the game, and music and audio effects.
Heck, I only got info on the VA - Japanese kept intact, I presume, going by your statement - by asking a tangentially related question.
Thank you for your time.
And tits are life, arse is hometown.
Uh oh... I bought it online yesterday along with Kai for Wii U. Should have waited for your review first, I was confident that based on the first game, this one would be a solid beat'em'all... guess I will have to judge by myself when it arrives.
Honestly, I can't say I agree with the score, but I do respect the opinions shown here. I can say though that it won't stop me from buying the game whatsoever.
I was initially unsure of the whole series due to the obvious content that some people may have issues with; but my wife kept looking at the PSVITA game Shinovi Verses and I ultimately caved and bought it for her last Christmas (though I almost took it back once because i was really unsure of it haha)
Either way, she opened it, played it and I was hooked by watching it. Yes the content is there, but it was no where near what I had initially expected; its mainly a bunch of boob jokes, which don't really make me uncomfortable anymore since getting married (not that I would ever make the jokes mind you)
When it comes down to it, make your own choices about what games you play; sites like Nintendolife are here to give their insight, but they don't decide our purchases. If this seems like something you'd enjoy, then go ahead and buy it (I personally recommend it), if it isn't, well that's fine too; however there is no need to make fun of or judge the people who are buying/enjoying it.
I had this game since the longest and I can say this review is crap in so many ways. This review talks of the game like if it was a fighting game which is not, its a beat em up/visual novel and its incredibly fun and deep
I'd rather have these boobs : P
In all cerealness, i'll probably get this game, I enjoyed burst for it's gameplay, rather then it's "appeal".
@sWiTcHeRoO The series has its audience.
That is all I have to say.
That said, I believe that it's obvious you haven't read about the Senran Kagura producer - I believe his name is Takaki or some sort - and how honest he generally is about his desires. I mean, if you saw his promotion for the π-play VR device, you'd notice that he isn't kidding at all.
That said, as much as I like him and how SK has turned out as a series - a respectable 400k+ copies, I believe - I don't like the K-On! effect it seems to have.
Just to confirm, no game is reviewed in isolation at Nintendo Life and I'm also playing through SK2 at the moment and have been chatting to Alex about the game as well.
Regardless of what you think of the fan service, there's no getting away from the fact that SK2 is a very shallow title - the combat sections are button-mashing at its finest and while the window-dressing is all very well (calling this a visual novel is going a bit far - is every game that has cut-scenes now a visual novel?), it's not enough to elevate it above being very average indeed.
As you know, another reviewer tackled the first game and liked it, but this sequel really doesn't add anything new to the concept at all and that has to be taken into account. And while many of you will love the fact that it's packed with wobbly lady-bits, those very same gravity-defying orbs of flesh will be incredibly off-putting to many other players.
If you can honestly hold your hand up and say you don't feel even the slightest bit awkward using the 3DS motion controls to pan the camera around a half-naked, large-chest anime girl after you've beaten her senseless then you're a better person that I am, clearly.
@llamareborn @Chrizzel28 Uh oh someone's jimmies have been rustled cause of an opinion on a mediocre game. LMAO! You can still like it like i said it's an opinion and a score. If that stops from liking this then that's pathetic. And by the look of things some very angry fans are coming,i'm going to get some food cause this going to be fun to watch.
I think most that needs to be said has been said already in this thread, I'll just add that it might become time to drop review scores and go with a system more similar to Eurogamer's, since judging from the review the game isn't worse than Burst. Other than that, I think it's a good, informative review.
Question for those who played both Shinovi Versus and Deep Crimson: Are there any big differences in gameplay? I thought SV had great, fast-paced combat, so if this is similar I'll probably pick it up.
I have yet to play a Senran Kagura title I didn't enjoy (I would go as far as saying it's one of my favorite series), and am very much looking forward to when this reaches the land of 'Murica on September 15.
If this game were about women in their mid twenties early thirties, I would have preordered it. This game is about objetified children. BeiNg such it is indicative of its source. An industry that leads to pain, hurt, suicide, and much more. The "mature bodies" defense doesn't work because the law doesn't see mature bodies. It sees the age of the victim. Jared Fogle is proof enough of that. Liking filth like this is a slippery slope. One no sane person would want to be apart of.
@TwilightAngel I like how you directly contradict yourself in your comment and then take the high ground, despite confirming my point. Top kek.
@Moon you may be a fan of Japanese anime/manga, but that itself is too diverse. What anime did you watch this/last season?
I believe this game audience is those who enjoy harem/comedy/school/romance/ecchi kind of anime
@Chrizzel28 I'll dumb it down for you. It's an opinion on a game. i'll say it again. An opinion on a game. It won't or it shouldn't affect you liking or loving this game. If it does? Then? Well what can i say?
@TwilightAngel Did dumbing it down include messing up the grammar, or do you always do that? But fine, now that you've actually said what you were trying to say instead of messing your sentence up, I agree.
@Chrizzel28 I understand your position, but you're really not doing yourself any favors to an outsider.
Before you judge me, read the rest of my comments.
@Damo Perhaps it is time to switch to a Famitsu-style multiple review system?
I don't know, I just want an excuse to push that. And, you know what they say, multiple review copies!
EDIT: @AlexOlney stated that the game was 60/40 gameplay:plot. You're not going to take away marks for how there's too much exposition? Now that I think about it, this should be the case, considering how he feels about the plot.
@JeffreyG SV is a 3D beat-em-up, right? I'd go by what @EdJericho said in this case.
@TheWPCTraveler I understand. My apologies. It's just frustrating to see a game I greatly appreciate and enjoy get a score so low when its great (yet clearly inferiour) predecessor got a high as heck score. It feels like a bit of the fairness previously afforded to the series was lost over time. However, I freely admit I was wrong in making a vocal complaint with a relative lack of substance, especially since the review is without substance, from what I am seeing. That was at least slightly hypocritical of me.
The review sounds exactly like my experience with Burst (currently playing it), so I suppose if I like Burst then I would like this game too. I'll see until I finish Burst before I decide to buy this or not, enjoying it so far though. It can be a mindless button mashing, but we could also decide to use various combo if we want. Can be repetitive, though it's the nature of most beat-em-up I guess.
Anyway, if you feel disturbed with the amount of skin revealed, you could change the swimsuit to something less revealing.
I thought you did a pretty good job of handling the controversial bits without letting it taint the whole review. Although that could just be because Polygon have completely recalibrated my expectations on this matter.
It is very hard for a mainstream site like this to deal with these sorts of games though. The fact that it's aimed at a particular niche, who've already bought into the premise, means you're always going to have a bit of a disconnect by getting reviews from a site where people haven't necessarily agreed on that premise.
I'll be keeping my preorder intact! I'm just a huge fan of over the top beat-em ups and anime girls beating the crap out of each other. Not even a fan of over-sized boobs but its still funny watching them fight while swing their huge "weapons" around!
Super cool pervert Katsuragi makes it all worthwhile!
People play this game mainly for the story, there's another reason but that one is kinda obvious.
@Jazzer94 That's very true about the multiple opinions. Although you do get a bit of a problem when the entirety of games media don't represent the entirety of the audience. That does happen on some issues. This possibly being one of them. Part of it's just down to the nature of the fact that you're a public face. If you DID like the pervy stuff, you'd probably feel bad about saying so in a review on a reputable gaming site. Whereas a random audience member will face no such compunctions.
@Chrizzel28 I understand. I'm sick of the mainstream being so quick to dismiss niche titles (lol, it's made by the Japs, it won't be good).
EDIT: I cut a lot of my comment out. I'm sorry.
@Damo Thank you.
@TheWPCTraveler Yeah, a very sad audience. And I have seen interviews, the dude just comes off as incredibly disgusting, and so does anyone that supports this type of trash.
The score pretty well hits my expectations. Though I did expect more name-calling in the comments than a lone weeaboo reference.
Zero interest in the game from the outset, I'm just here for the pointlessly angry comments.
Nicely writen review, Alex. I for one truly believe the score has been given independently of the sexual content. A 6 seems about right, even a bit generous, for what this offers in its genre.
@sWiTcHeRoO Well, different viewpoints and all that.
I'm actually starting to get pissed off at people who supported SK, but not for the reasons you'd think.
These kinds of games are pretty much designed to do better on Vita. Thus, the Vita gets games (not that I'd complain about this alone), and the 3DS gets less. When it comes to multiplats for the Japanese market, the 3DS gets shafted hard.
Case in point: Conception II, despite Spike Chunsoft actually having worked on multiple 3/DS projects.
That, and the K-On! effect, made more powerful by the gaming market shrinking in Japan.
But, the audience being who they are? Nah, not a chance. Especially when there are dozens, if not hundreds, of "genders" out there, I'd say that's a different manifestation of the same problem.
A fairer review that I expected, though I suppose that may be due to reading some takes which really miss the point. As a bit of disclosure, I've been playing this game since last year through all of the patches and improvements so I have some serious disagreements to held over the depth (the highest of any combat focused 3DS game I played) of the game unless they took away the styles, character switching advantages (including the abillity to control two characters at once!) and such but I'll assume that detailing them is pointless given that I do agree on how levels aren't the best. I feel like the AI is much more aggressive here than most Senran Kagura games, including Burst thanks to how they punish you mid combo but if they changed that I guess that isn't a point.
I haven't read the Burst review, but it isn't relevant if you are a totally different guy (or changed your mind really). I can argue that game was better in some respects. I wish you would take the story and customisation into account for this review though, even if you could call them sleazy or camp, you could recognise and inform people that "Hey, these insane monster bosses even have some fanservice" or "Hey, there are two guys who can get reduced to little clothing" or "Hey, the story dives into comedy and dark elements which range from using fanservice to dismissing it". I dunno.
@AlexOlney ...Try again. lol
@AlexOlney What is this supposed to be? All I'm seeing is a big fat untitled on my phone.
@thelastgogeta What are you doing just complaining in the comments? Post a review!
I don't mean it to be an insult or anything, just go and put one up!
@Vineleaf Care to explain?
Seems a well written review, Alex. I would just suggest you edit the conclusion to at least mention the sexual themes so that people who only read the conclusion or who skipped to the conclusion aren't caught off guard and decide to try "just a mediocre hack and slash." In fact, you can still say you're only grading on gameplay but say there are sexual themes some may find objectionable. Just a suggestion. Thanks for your thoughtful review. Your sight is always a class act.
I love this game more than the first.
At least, ennemi are real babe than can be naked like you when you hit them, nice !
@Moon I am married and I have the PS Vita game. Am I fibbing?
@Moon I'm married and I'm actually getting my wife to buy it for me for our anniversary
From the gameplay videos I sorta expect this one to be somewhat more repetitive than the first.
Yet, since I liked Burst quite a lot (both story and gameplay wise) I'm confident on getting this. Any luck and I actually find the gameplay more addicting than the first, on the contrary if the game does play worse it surely can't be that big of a difference going by the review.
@TheWPCTraveler
I'd write a thorough review, but my brother's European 3DS that I used to play Burst isn't in the best condition (R button has issues - very important, switches off easily and other things) and I last thoroughly played the game months ago.
I can answer any questions that people have about things whether it is StreetPass (50 swimsuits unlocked through it, you get to see profiles and pose them) and mechanics but it'll take me longer to get through the story to detail those things than a lot of other people in the comments.
I'm not the kind of guy who writes a single take on a game once leaving it there.
I can't wait for amiiboobs compatability to be announced!
When a boobs game gets a low rating, the reviewer is biased because he hates fanservice.
When a boobs game gets a high rating, the reviewer is biased because he loves fanservice. (Which is hilarious because the last time I saw a boobs game get attacked for a high rating, the reviewer was gay.)
@thelastgogeta Ah, okay. Best of luck in whatever you want to do, then.
@AlexOlney I like watching you drink something, as much as the next guy, but won't this waste 1 megabyte or so of server bandwidth per page load?
Unless, of course, it's hosted somewhere else and/or whoever's running this site has a fantastic GIF compression algorithm?
I actually had to scroll back up to the top of the page to make sure I wasn't reading a review from Polygon.
I've played the import version of this. Can't speak to the story, but the gameplay is vastly improved from Burst.
All this review communicated to me is that the reviewer is a prude. If someone is uncomfortable with fanservice, they shouldn't play a game series that is famous for its fanservice. Would you assign a person who detests cute platformers to play the latest Mario game?
Not right now, because I'm too busy playing a game about mowing down hundreds of people with a machine gun, blood and body parts flying every which way, but soon I'll do a big write up on why anybody who plays games with panties in them is immoral and disgusting and shameful.
@CaviarMeths I c what u did there, I agree.
This review doesn't surprise me one bit, but I don't take other peoples opinions to serious, so I'm not butt hurt at all and will be picking this up next month.
Let's be honest on this one... first of all... most of us are here for them fanservice... and secondly, the game deserves more credit... I mean if Star Wars episode III on the DS was on the same lines as this one and received some critic acclaim... It's a beat'em up, what did you expected? an RPG?
i'm not offended by the fanservice overkill but the games just arent that great...a good game with boobs would be verry funny,a bad game with boobs is well...its just a bit pafethic i think...
@sWiTcHeRoO sign me up!!!!
What particular demographic do the themes in the game appeal to exactly? I'm curious
@AlexOlney This GIF needs to be saved for future use.
I won't ever get the appeal of this kinda thing anyways, but to each their own. I'd say this was pretty fair.
@Geonjaha Eek. Make way for the crazies. :v
@sWiTcHeRoO Actually have to agree with you somewhat here, ha...even if @TheWPCTraveler brought up a good point about the producer anyways.
@Moon: I don't, but the creator is married.
@Damo: "If you can honestly hold your hand up and say you don't feel even the slightest bit awkward using the 3DS motion controls to pan the camera around a half-naked, large-chest anime girl after you've beaten her senseless then you're a better person that I am, clearly."
You're cool Damo(that's not sarcasm I seriously love this quote). That said, just yesterday I was playing Burst in the break room at work, so I think I'm officially a boss. Admittedly I know no one is paying attention to what I'm playing, not that I'd care all that much if they were. I'm not the only one with such blatant lack of shame though. In at least two college classes I took teachers recieved complaints from students that the students in the rows in front of them were watching porn, and some guy I saw myself in the row in front of me had a wallpaper of a girl in nothing but underwear. Don't get the wrong idea either. This isn't a problem with men. If I had cared I could have sued several girls for sexual harassment back in high school, and even junior high for physically touching me in public without my consent.(Yes, I mean touching in a sexual way and in most cases I barely spoke to them.) Anyway, no I don't feel awkward about it. Pfft.
@AlexOlney
Seems like this comment section is full of fans who are angry that you haven't justified their own subjective opinions.
@AlexOlney What a professional way to respond to criticism. Good thing you have plenty of fanboys to back you up and validate your behavior.
I've always wondered what it is about nerds who review games and why they're so defensive about their "verdicts." I've seen the same childish backlash from reviewers back on Joystiq, as soon as someone has something negative to say about their judgment they turn into a snarky highschool brat in the comments instead of taking the criticism like a man. I guess it's just insecurity.
There's quite a lot of things wrong with this review, and schockingly so. The superb story is barely mentioned, as well as the strategic depth of the tag system as well as the unlockable equipment.
@sWiTcHeRoO Don't talk nonsense when you know nothing of the game yourself. Contrary to what the review says, the combat system offers plenty of challenge and strategy, which is further enhanced by the many tag team combinations. Additionally, the writing is simply brilliant, with extremely high emphasis on character development and the increasing tension of the overall situation as threats become more and more prominent.
The fanservice might not be everyone's cup of tea, but is only in the way if you leave clothing damage scenes turned on - turn them off, and it's a seamless fight all the way through.
Also, who are you to judge people over what they like? Quite the arrogant behaviour you're putting up for show. You know nothing about the people who play this game, yet you have the audacity to judge them all at once based on knowing absolutely nothing.
@TheWPCTraveler Just how the comments for Senran Kagura in particular seem to generate a great deal of emotion and name-calling. I'll get this game, but I certainly understand where the criticism comes from, especially with the way the producer talks.
@CaviarMeths
Good thing I had just put down my drink when I read this or I would have did a spit take right into my computer screen.
I'm not the type of gamer to get butthurt over scores and reviews but I do take issue with a review that barely discusses the story in a game that's part Visual Novel. I guess that was left out of the score to achieve some neutrality but considering how much time the author spent discussing the overtly sexual themes anyway I don't think it did that at all. Oh well, I'll experience it for myself when I get the game. Double D edition of course.
You pathetic virgins actually think this is a decent game? I like boobs every now and again but it's just not a good game, you set your standards too low. Damn, now I know how Kingdom Hearts ended up with a fanbase, though unrelated to boobs.
Despite the bias towards the sexual content the remarks about repetitiveness are largely accurate. Personally I love the SK series and even I would never rate it more than 7/10. But there's a kind of spectacle and zen when performing combos which overrides the tedium which you either get or don't. Anyone who's ever played games like Marvel Vs. Capcom can relate to that.
No worries. I'm going to be buying two copies of SK2 to play with my buddy who doesn't buy echi games. Not that he doesn't like them, he's just embarrassed to pay for them. =)
The problem with reveiws is the fact that 70% of the time it's done by a critic or someone that doesn't like the series /genre and this is one of those reviews. You shouldn't reveiw a game if you don't like it's genre, this a fan service beat em up game, which already split those are VERY centered audiences. I consider this a youtube reveiw because you are just another person saying you don't like this genre so your going to tell the world it's bad. Go get a different job or tell your boss that someone else should do a reveiw for this genre, cause your giving this game a bad look and making the developer waste their time and shake their heads.
@AlexOlney so bassically you trolled, you posted a comment expecting people to get angry, which means you wrongfully reviewed this game. How do you have a job in reviewing when you can't take it seriously. You have single handedly and made nintendo life lose credibility. And every time I see your reveiw i will look the other way because you don't take it seriously or to heart.
@Chrizzel28 Oh, stop whining, please. They gave it a 6, which is above average.
I've played it, and it's nothing mind-blowing. They are better fighting games for 3DS, like Street Fighter, that's on sale right now.
You could do worse, yes, but you can definitely do better. Tekken 3D is better than this.
@abbyhitter I don't believe Alex reviewed the first game. So, maybe the first was like, a 5 in his opinion. Not all reviewers have the same views.
I love how this review brings out the 'journalist' in all of you haha.
I actually agreed with this review on pretty much everything.
If you don't, then just chill. NintendoLife has not 'lost respect' or anything for this review. They gave Alex permission to publish this review, sharing his OPINION.
If you don't agree with his opinion, just chill.
As a 27 year old mother of 3, I have quite enjoyed the Senran Kagura series, so... Just exactly what does that make me since people are insulting the fans of the series by calling them "basement-dwelling weeaboos" and other such nonsense?
I get it, not everyone will be open to its high level of fanservice but players that enjoy these games are, in my honest opinion, no more disgusting than people whom enjoy gratuitous gore-fest games or love My Little Pony. I mean, what would you call female fans that enjoy games like Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2, games with a rather shameless protagonist? I also like games such as Oneechanbara Z2. Man or woman, games are for entertainment. Like all forms of media for entertainment purposes, you pick what caters to your tastes and move on. Do I, as a woman, feel objectified by a game like Senran Kagura? Not in the slightest. But another woman might and I respect that stance. I'm not gonna tell her to toughen up and grow thicker skin because of it.
In a nutshell, if it's not your cup of tea, fine. But don't go about insulting those whom do enjoy it. Heck, I have been known to play these titles in public and not bat an eye when people crane their necks to see what I'm doing. Why? Because there's no shame to be had.
PS: Don't really care about the score because it's one person's opinion and bears no weight on my decision to buy a game I want to experience for myself
@Chrizzel28
I kind of agree, I don't necessarily blame Nintendolife, it's just in vogue to harp on sexual themes these days. It's like we're returning to the moral panic of the 90's all over again. It's bad enough on this side of the pond, we don't need European reviewers going loony over that stuff too, traditionally they haven't been as prudish...
@WinterWarm Most peculiar that you show you know nothing about it by comparing it to fighting games though. It's like comparing Pokémon to Minecraft. It's a non-sequitur.
@Anon_Amous Exactly. This is both the power and the weakness of the internet: the pooling of culture. On one side it increases our range of ideas and allows us to slowly dissolve more and more cultural barriers. Yet on the other side, if we pool all culture, it is quite possible for social and linguistic viruses to spread unchecked...
@ShikabaneHime13 - brilliantly said. Your rational comment makes a lot of other people here on this thread look rather foolish and childish.
Personally I have no issues with this game or others like it, but respect others who may not if it isn't their taste. I may get it as it could be something I enjoy, but it's also two fingers to the moral brigade who want to ban games like this.
It's different strokes for different folks and if you like this game, great, and if you don't like it, that's also great. But complaining about its content or moaning that the review doesn't sit with your own is very ignorant indeed.
@ShikabaneHime13
You missed out on the "virgin" bit. Basement-dwelling weeaboo virgin.
I don't really care about the review score. What concerns me is that the reviewer barely touches on the story or great music, unfairly criticizes the excellent combat system, and spends a third of the review being offended that the game has boobs in it. It's a terrible review.
Jack Thompson's legacy is alive and well. We might be freaking out over something different, but the culture of fear and prudery is alive again and has infected the majority of the modern gaming press.
Some proper butthurt in here.
I guess anyone who enjoys Senran Kagura is a basement dwelling virgin with no life. I know I am. I've never had a girlfriend, ever. Nope.
It's ridiculous how stupid Nintoddlers are. I bet literally 100% of the people here whack it off to porn and then complain about objectification on Reddit 2 minutes later.
Get a grip. It's a video game.
Hey NL, whoever you are, what would be smart is add a a section to your reviews that allow people who care enough to read it to score against your review. Then you can learn that your reviews are super whack and you need to brush your teeth. Or don't, keep your peeth. I don't care. Thanks for having no life and being webernet-addicts who keep me up to date on Nintendo stuff. Also, don't forget to brush your T'f
@Hikage
I think it says a lot about Western society that the implication is there that people are only virgins because of desperation. God knows there can't be people out there who just aren't interested in pursuing sexual relationships, or who guard their virginity as if it were a precious resource because sex is an act pregnant with sacred meaning to them.
I have no time in my life for a girl or a boy right now. Guess that means I'm some desperate virgin who just can't get laid, right?
@MarvinTheMartian
Thank you. I mean, seriously, the argument is kind of sillly from my perspective because not everyone likes the same thing and a person's interest in a particular subject/genre is no more valid than another person whom has a different set of tastes.
If I may be as so frank to give another example: I love to read and tend to gravitate toward fantasy, horror, thriller and classical works. Recently I read through several written works of the infamous Marquis de Sade and thoroughly enjoyed them. In my book club, since I was the one that suggested reading Justine and 120 Days of Sodom (I had long desired to read these works for myself but wished to discuss with others on his work), I asked the others (men and women) for their feedback on the two books. It was almost a unanimous dislike for everyone else but we did sit and discuss our differing views in a civil manner and, at the end of the meeting, I (can't speak for the others) at least walked away with valid insight from both sides of the fence and respect for their reasoning behind their discomfort with the books (his work really isn't for the faint of heart) and would hope they felt the same for my reasoning since I enjoyed them.
As I said above in my post, we all do not have to like the same thing but we should be respectful to those with differing tastes. I play these games but my husband (who is Japanese and almost as big an otaku as I am) is certainly no fan of them yet he respects that I like them
@Ralizah Yeah, I did omit that part >.< And yeah, I can certainly understand your gripes about how the reviewer tackled the game. However, I have always been firm in my belief that one must experience something for themselves. I get the purpose of reviews, but reviewers are nonetheless injecting their personal feelings into their final conclusion. And while that's not a bad thing in itself, our personal feelings are still likely to be different. Many times reviewers have been known to outright praise certain games but, to the actual consumer, the game might not live up to their own expectations upon trying it for themselves and vice-versa. Hence why I take all reviews (professional ones anyway) with a grain of salt. Sure, I'll read some consumer reviews because there's a range of differing opinions and not just one, but at the end of the day, I want to know for myself whether something is enjoyable or noth
@Hikage "Get a grip. It's a video game."
In context to the sentence before that: immature snicker
You know, the first game also has its share of button-mashing and repetative enemies. Is this one really any worse in those regards?
@Ralizah Oh yeah I feel you my man, I actually don't have a girlfriend now because I'm not looking for one. My last girlfriend was a nightmare and the one before her hurt me too much.
Maybe I just want to relax from work and play cute waifu games without some fatso commenter giving me shit for it.
"This creepy fanservice game isn't actually very good"
Something that could easily be figured out after watching 15 minutes of gameplay. The unnecessary sexualization really hampers gameplay/story/etc.; but we all know you're not allowed to say that, you filthy gaijin prudes.
At least this is the only creeptrash game we're getting for a while.
@Moon
Do inflatable anime waifus count?
@Chrizzel28 I dislike this site more and more the more different writers leave and get new ones.
@Damo While I respect most of this comment, the line about not adding anything new is a real pet peeve of mine. If it were on a new system, you'd have a point, but there's no reason to mark off a sequel on the same system for playing it safe. While a lazy sequel can be disappointing in how it can feel like a level expansion instead of a new game, it ultimately isn't any worse than the first game and should therefore be reviewed as such.
@WinterWarm But it's a beat-'em-up, not a fighting game like Street Fighter or Tekken. How would you compare it to the likes of, say, "Code of Princess" or "Spyborgs?"
@BulbasaurusRex lol it's crazy, it's almost as though he's never actually played the game!
This isn't exactly my kind of game (not much of a beat'em up fan, don't mind em sometimes) but lately the writers have been showing a lot of prejudice against some games. That's why I'm not going to factor their review of Devil's Third into my decision to buy it.
I did play the first game, and it was alright. I don't mind the fan service but it did get old and repetitive after awhile. I may pick up the sequel at a discount, or just stick with Dead or Alive. Lol
@PolarKoalaBear I think that's fair. Reviews aren't 100% accurate, it's still the reviewer(s)'s opinions, they just exist to better help consumers know what decision to take.
I think the way they have been discussing Devil's Third has been fine, but that's just me. They honestly look like they think the game could've been great, but is held back by bugs and other types of issues. That helped me decide not to get it, as I was mildly intrigued for a while.
I'm confused??? If you don't believe the review gave the game enough credit, then that's your opinion. Isn't that what this section is for? Opinions? Just because they gave the game a 6 doesn't mean you can't go out and try it for yourself if you don't agree. If you like it, then good for you. I've bought plenty of games that haven't had the best reviews and have enjoyed them. Do you!
I think I am kind of proud of this place, sure there are some insults being thrown back and forth but the most ridiculous post I have ever seen was ignored. Good job!
Eh I'm getting it, I enjoy the combat and playing dress up, I'd like to know the the game had a menu option that gave any indication that the story dlc was forthcoming.
@Damo >Adds nothing new?
Um... hello? Did you even really play the game, let alone look at it?
>Pair battle system?
>Completely revamped combat system?
>Superior graphics in every way?
>STABLE Framerate?
>Added game modes?
>Online co-op?
Like seriously, the list goes on.
I really can't take this seriously.
@WinterWarm >Says they played it
>called it a fighting game.
Yeah, the game isn't a complete reinvention, but it definitely does what any good sequel should do: expands and improves upon the good elements from the original, and reduces or eliminates the bad elements. Obviously some problems remain, but it is still a pretty great game.
It is HILARIOUS that a game like Code of Princess featured a character so risqué that Nintendo felt obligated to place the title over her outfit in order to censor the game. And got a 9 out of 10 from this site (despite horribly inconsistent frame rates, tiny characters, sluggish animations and a half hearted homage to the brilliant in comparison Guardian Heroes.
It is HILARIOUS that the original Senran Kagura featured just as much sexual content, just as many ridiculous visual novel scenes (not nearly as well done) and just as much overt fan service. And it got an 8 out of 10.
I know you're like 22, 23 Alex, but your decision to deride a game for something other Japanese games do so much worse (something that only exists to break the 'monotony' of fast paced, side scrolling, beat-em-up combat the series actually does better than most of its contemporaries) is rather prudish.
I'm not writing this to defend the game, but to point out the glaring inconsistency in having you review a game of this nature when now 2 of your contemporaries have seen such content light heartedly and refused to let those elements affect the game's score.
It reads like an 8 out of 10, but due to your personal preference, it scores a 6. The fact of this point is what I just read isn't objective, critical journalism. In fact, it reads very personally and very subjectively. Should your views continue to be skewed in such a manner as evidenced by this review, you can count me as a former subscriber and fan of this website as a whole.
If not clear, I'm calling out the review system of NL more than Alex himself. He's entitled to his opinion, but a review (a professional review that will be seen by potentially thousands of people) needs to stand in the middle of the pack. That's what objectivity means. As soon as you're off to one side, the scale becomes meaningless. Which is why the old school gaming mags were so great, providing 3-5 reviews from a diverse range of editors and contributors. This is one person's opinion. It's not an accurate representation of how the average gamer is going to view the game. My previous comments chiding Alex focusing on the fan service is directly related to this post. The previous game does have its audience. It sold enough to warrant 3 different physical editions of the title and how often is it that a Nintendo product can say that? The audience is clearly there. So why go out of the way to have Alex review the game?
Why go out of your way to say the game 'adds nothing new' Damo, when the original came out in Japan a considerable time before releasing in the West and the sequel released less than 6 months after the Japanese launch? It's clear there's some burn-out, but clearer that the reviews are considerably skewed in a singular direction. Perhaps, there is the intention in NL itself, to ensure games of this nature do not find release on the 3DS.
I've got a news flash for you Damo: Nintendo is LOSING. Every single day, more and more, Nintendo is losing badly to both of their competitors. Even with the X1 flopping in Japan, Nintendo is still losing BADLY. It isn't time to pick a fight with a game whose premise you don't agree with but is solidly made. RCMADIAX, let's just say it now. There are a lot more games out there that don't deserve an audience. Just because one doesn't like the content of a game, doesn't make it a bad game.
Oh if only Western peoples weren't so entirely caught up in their own sexual, physical and emotional insecurities to see the forest for the trees.
The trailer above was plumb awful!
Half of it was on some stage select with a bunch of crappy hexagons, and then the rest of the game, we are to infer, is in red Orochi world? Maybe I'll pass after all.
@SahashraLA While the main character in "Code of Princess" does have a really skimpy outfit, there's still a lot more fan service in these games (not that I mind). It's not just in the outfits either, as they also have more sexual dialogue, risque transformation sequences, repeated clothing damage, and a battle mode dedicated to fighting in swimsuits.
Haha. This comment section is hilarious. Everyone getting so riled up about pixel boobs. If a movie like Black Swan or Mulholland Drive throws in a nude lesbian scene that's counted as 'high-art', but anyone who plays these games are supposedly perverts. They look like a bit of harmless fun to me
@Kaze_Memaryu k
@Chrizzel28 I actually hope this review didn't stop you liking this game. This is an opinion,an opinion shouldn't stop you from liking something plain and simple. Oh and if i came out like a jerk with my comments towards you i'm sorry.
@TwilightAngel They usually do stop some people from liking them, that's how it usually goes.
@TwilightAngel "This is an opinion,an opinion shouldn't stop you from liking something plain and simple. "
That's the problem with reviews. They should NOT be based on opinion.
If reviews were based on facts, they'd be worth paying attention to, but 99.99% of reviewers are biased and review games based not on the game's quality, but on their enjoyment of the game.
But since reviews are based on opinion, there's no logical reason for anyone to seek them out for advice on a game to buy. It's literally cultivating a gaming society where arbitrarily-selected individuals' opinions are held as gospel, and above others' opinions.
There are too many gamers out there, especially younger ones, (who are eventually going to be the future of the gaming community,) that don't realize the guy who wrote the review that dictated whether they bought a game or not was just some greasy nerd on a computer somewhere who's getting paychecks for being literate and playing games.
Reviews and both the behavior/mindsets they breed and sway they have need to die off completely. All information held in high-regard should be factual, not subjective.
Reviewer forgot to mention the rarity of this genre for 3ds. We have senran and code of princess. The rest are mostly rpgs. Ps vita has all the brawlers.
I am currently playing part 1 and its not mind blowing but it isn't bad either.
@TwilightAngel It's entirely fine. I was, in attacking you, in the wrong. I was mostly annoyed that exactly because of all the things this game did right in my experience, it got such a low score. Especially when the predecessor got an 8, despite being the inferior game. A slightly clunky but great game, in my eyes, but definitely not as good as this one. My issue, with all coverage of this game, really, is that it all seems to come down to "we didn't pay attention to the story because the characters try to lighten the mood, and these boobs trigger me" with some moot criticism that usually doesn't add up to justify it like "it's a button masher". It's something that doesn't make me hate the game, but the reviewers that can't admit to having fun.
Basically, I overreacted to your comment. While your wording made it seem like you were saying something else, I shouldn't have been as mean-spirited as I was. All it did was turn me off from this site, because of this and a buildup of generally worse and worse reporting over time. The game is fine, and it will hold a special place in my heart for quite a while. But I'm out of this site once I stop receiving emails that someone responded to me in this comment section.
Laughing at all these sensitive people in the comments Folks online... That's NL's review of the game. It is what it is.
@c1pher_c0mplet The problem isn't the review itself, the problem is gaming reviews as a whole, as well as the reviewer in this case acting like a snotty little kid as soon as he receives any negative feedback on his bad review.
I enjoyed the Japanese version, so I'm sure I will like the English version too.
@ghostjoshu True dat.
If I go back through these comments and find one single "man" opposed to boobs, that guy is history.
@AlexOlney
Mind if I join you? I could make a quick candy run if needed.
There are just a lot of people here with the assumption that a reviewer has to like a game that you like, and to me that is comical.
The guy saying only people who like a genre should be able to review something, as if okie dokes are all he is looking for, that was great too.
I love how this game has essentially caused a civil war on this site. I don't get why this game gets so much hate. Where's the hatred for the Dead or Alive series, and most mainstream anime (even Dragonball had a lot of fanservice). I'm sure 99% of people here have seen some form of porn intentionally, and let's look at this fact- who are the real creeps/immature people here: the ones that enjoy female anatomy, or the ones that resort to name calling and pointless bashing to insult those that do?
Awww, the limited horizon of that sort of fans. I think the only thing one can do about this is to wait for the moment they come to realize that a work of art cannot be measured by means of a quasi-scientific approach. Which may happen when, well, they have grown up. MrRight's comment is particularly hilarious. He's just showing the sort of attitude and narrowness that is the reason why video game criticism (and even video game journalism at large) is still as underdeveloped as it is, compared to film criticism, literary criticism, and the like. That's not only a pity with respect to the journalism – but also a pity for videogames as such, as the quality of the discussion about and the analysis of an art can contribute a lot to its further development. Luckily, there are promising tendencies in game journalism and criticism,, and luckily, NintendoLife must be counted among these promising tendencies, with its reviews in between the "traditional" video game criticism many readers are still used to, and a more mature and sophisticated perspective on the game. Thumps up for the reviewer.
@AlexOlney I like what you are thinking.
@Coldpancakes Exactly. I don't understand what all the whining is about. I'd say 6/10 is either spot-on or probably a little generous taking into account the original game's review scores. I'm not championing Senran Kagura 2 nor am I against it — it's just not something I'm into (and seems a little weird and strange imo). Unless you're into anatomically-incorrect digitized breasts and love beat 'em ups, the series seems pretty shallow and mediocre as a whole.
@MrRight There are always opinions when judging an artform. Some people may hate a game's soundtrack, while it appeals quite nicely to others. Some may love a game's artstyle, while others may see it as bland and/or ugly. Some may feel the GamePad offers a great control scheme, while others bemoan the fact that there isn't an option for the Wiimote and Nunchuck. In this case, some people may think the gameplay is shallow and repetitive button-mashing, while others may consider that those very features are what make beat-'em-ups so fun to play. While there are some objective components such as framerate and bugs, and some tastes are shared by a very large majority, it's impossible to offer a completely fact-based critique on the quality of video games, movies, TV shows, paintings, sculptures, or any other forms of art. I have a friend who loves the "Super Mario Bros." movie, claiming it has a great alternate-dimension based plot while including so many features of the games such as the Bob-omb (although even he'll admit that the villains have terrible costumes).
Do you have to have played the first game to play this one?
What I'm trying to say is, is the story line connected in any way, or can I start on this game?
@MyLegGuy The first chapter in this game is the same as the lastin thefirst game. They summon up necesary info, but I can recomend the first one too, its fun.
I have been waiting for this! Should be getting money tomorrow and I already know I will love it so I am getting it right away <3
Hibariii< 3333
I love how people were trying to hush the naysayers down like "I'll play whatever I want and it's about more than just boobs!" and when the scores come in, they're like "...I don't caaarreee!!1!!"
I really like the Senran Kagura series, and I can't say I'm particularly surprised by the general consensus on the game from NL's staff - it's a perfectly solid beat 'em up that has geared itself towards a small, predominantly Japanese, audience; and anybody outside of said audience is going to be at the very least baffled by its popularity with this small group. That's not to say outside perspectives are somehow bad - they're definitely not, and a more critical review can sometimes highlight the more negative aspects of a game that a fan will try to gloss over.
I'd say this review has more merit to it than the 0/10 BAN THIS SICK FILTH level vapid nonsense I expect once the American games media gets its hands on Senran Kagura 2; and I consider that a good thing overall. I don't really agree with the review, but Alex has clearly given it a fair shake, and it'd be unfair of people who do like these sorts of games to be hostile towards that.
@Tobias95
Is the first one called SENRAN KAGURA Burst?
(It's having a sale on the eshop, lucky me!)
@Tindre Yeah, Burst is the first one
I don't mind people having personal opinions. Opinions are like buttholes, after all.
What I do have a problem with, is that no matter how much people say 'This review is only one person's opinion!', it's representative of the view of the whole website, and as such will actually influence whether people people buy the game or not. We all know there's people out there who won't buy any game unless it gets a glowing review from a site they visit a lot, and a bad review putting people off can potentially mean poorer sales and no more sequels to that game being made.
That being said, It's cool if the reviewer only thinks this is a 6/10 game, but with the site having awarded the first game 8/10, it should be made much clearer in the review as to how this game compares to the previous one, and whether it is at least as good (if not better) than it so existing fans will at least have some kind of proper gauge to go by. Does the reviewer of Senran Kagura 2 only consider the first game to be a 6/10 game as well? Or an even lower score?
Because unless it's the same person reviewing both games, giving the first on an 8 but the second one only a 6 when it apparently has a few more features and an online co-op mode looks extremely inconsistent.
The troll comments from the reviewer about popcorn and coffee very early on in the thread don't help either. It comes across as him deliberately writing a slanted review to annoy certain people and then sitting back and watching the car wreck. Classy, very classy :/
@MussakkuLaden The only one who needs to grow up here is you, and I think you know it since you went out of your way to mention me without replying directly.
Enjoy the taste and smell of the reviewer's hind quarters, though. He needs unabashed fanboys like you to feed his youthful-yet-massive ego.
@BulbasaurusRex Your comment rests entirely on the fact that you can't tell the difference between "Good/Bad" and "Like/Dislike".
If a car is broken down and can't drive, it's bad. Even if it's the owner's favorite car.
@ToxieDogg "The troll comments from the reviewer about popcorn and coffee very early on in the thread don't help either. It comes across as him deliberately writing a slanted review to annoy certain people and then sitting back and watching the car wreck. Classy, very classy :/"
Couldn't have put it better myself. It's the opposite of professionalism and only adds to the negative stereotypes surrounding gaming as a "juvenile" medium. When our REVIEWERS are acting like 14 year olds then there's a real problem, and this isn't the only site where it has happened.
It doesn't help that there are so many brainless fanboys jumping to defend that behavior. It's sad but the older I get the more I start to believe the stereotypes of most gamers being manchildren and/or literal children.
What a kerfluffle. I personally don't give a duck if the review is good or bad. I like the series, so I will pick up this game and enjoy it, regardless of what professional reviewers may say about it.
straight dudes are so angry that not everybody is taking Anime Booby Game with some Fighting seriously. get over yourselves lmaoooo
(guess what if the blatant oversexualization of women and girls is too much for a person to handle, to the point that it actively makes them enjoy the game less, guess what. guess what that means. it means that it lowers the quality of the game for them. it means that there are flaws, which part of the reviewer's job is to point out for consumers).
Can't say I agree with the reviewer, but oh well. Personally I'd say it is a 8/10. Sure it does get repetitive every now and then, but the girls are all lovable (and Murasame is hilarious), and I generally enjoy the series for what it is. The story is actually also pretty good.
@MrRight Most video game features are just a matter of like/dislike. Like I said, there are a few things like framerate drops, the technical side of graphics and sound, and bugs that are good/bad, but most things in video games are a matter of opinion or like/dislike as you put it. For example, I happen to like somewhat repetitive button-mashing in my beat-'em-ups (as long as there's some depth to the combat), and I hate platformers that use gimmicks excessively like foreground/background jumping, gravity manipulation, or simultaneous multiple character control.
@ToxieDogg I got my copy in the mail and SK2 is light years ahead of Burst in every possible way. If NL gave SK2 a 6/10 when it gave Burst a 8/10 you know there's some serious inconsistency. NL should definitely have gotten the same reviewer to compare both games.
@Inkling I'd agree with except that can be false. For example, if you have an opinion based on an incorrect fact, your opinion can be objectively wrong. Now given that opinions are subjective by nature, it is silly to argue with you about this. If I said I hated all dinosaurs because they were made of talking cigarette butts that's my opinion and it's stupid and also wrong.
I'll wait for a sale. The first one i bought out of spite of a certain game reviewer.
Answering the points asked by @TheWPCTraveler and I didn't see anyone talking about.
SV is based on the most simple Warriors/Musou games like Hokuto Musou/Fist of North Star Ken's Rage where the combos change based per characters instead on changing their weapons. I dunno if Estival Versus added equipment system.
Also, answering the question on how are the 3D graphics in this game (for those that didn't played it yet), this time we have 3D effects on at all times (in Burst it was only activated on dialogue sections and special attacks).
On the normal gameplay the 3D effect only adds the sense of profundity to the stage, characters don't have apparent depth differences on their limbs, while in the special attack animations they have nice pop out effects (one the better that I've seen in a 3DS game by now) and a nice pop-in/pop-out balance (the only other game that I know that does it better is DoA Dimensions).
Got this after greatly enjoying the first one.
I do will say that (a couple of hours into the game) the gameplay just doesn't feel as tight and addictive as the first one. The camera and the locking mechanic just don't click as nicely as the left/right restriction of the first game for me. The full 3D movement sure is a nice change of pace and no doubt was a big jump for the developers, but it feels more like a change for change sake, instead using the mechanics that worked in Burst and improving them. Having said that, the improvements in graphics, options, interface and game modes are massive and very well done.
In the end putting in balance the good and not so good changes of this sequel, I would say this game is a fitting companion to the first Senran Kagura instead of an all superior replacement.
I will have to apologize for offending this game allot..but i just don't like it at all. Still going to say sorry to the person who created this game or if i offended an admin who actually enjoy this game v o v! So i am sorry..it was wrong of me to say such um words like i did.
Let's cool down on the personal attacks.
So wait they delete the actual first comment i made on this "game" and than keep the one that i apologized for being "rude" on the game. I-I don't, I mean like seriously? Just keep the old comment the one I originally made cause its messed up how you leave NEGATIVE comments made by other people on this review. :/ Messed up, but once again I believe that this isn't a "game" even meant to be made. It's just messed up one and I like how you gave it a correct review. Plus not to mention the many angry ragging fans for this sexually messed up game. Lol.
So sexy anime girls fighting =bad, sexy anime boys fighting = good? Sometimes i just get tired of muscle dudes beating up other muscle dudes.
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