
In a move that very few of us saw coming, PlayStation's Horizon series is heading to Nintendo Switch (albeit in the slightly more family-friendly, LEGO Horizon Adventures form). Is this a crossover episode? Are we witnessing the start of a bold new partnership between Sony and the Big N? Does this mean PlayStation IP will start leaking into the likes of Super Smash Bros.? We'd have to assume 'no' for that last one, but that's not to say that the devs of this latest LEGO adventure wouldn't be up for it.
In a new feature from Kotaku, Guerrilla Games' franchise development lead producer Tim Symons (who previously spent a decade at Nintendo of Europe as a Product Development Manager amongst other roles) was asked whether Horizon on Switch might lead to a Smash collaboration at some point down the line. While the dev hardly answered in the affirmative, he did confess that it would be "nice" to see. "If you speak to Nintendo and they want to invite us," Symons told Kotaku, "let me know".
It's a nice thought (Aloy would certainly be one of the more suitable PlayStation characters for Smash), though we struggle to imagine a world where it would happen. We all know how protective Nintendo is over its IP and while Smash Ultimate did welcome some crossovers that previously seemed impossible, mixing the Nintendo and Sony pools in such a popular franchise might feel like a step too far.
Of course, Smash Bros. may just be the biggest crossover event out there, and Guerrilla Games wouldn't be the first to want to get in on it. Back in 2022, NieR:Automata's Taro-san told us that he was "hugely disappointed" that 2B and co. weren't on Switch in time to make the Smash cut and let's not forget that Minecraft's Steve is an available fighter in Ultimate. We suppose that seeing PlayStation characters face off against Mario, Link and Samus isn't completely out of the question in the future, should this partnership continue...
But perhaps we're getting ahead of ourselves. LEGO Horizon Adventures is due out on Switch this holiday. We were lucky enough to go hands-on with the game at Summer Game Fest and we liked what we saw, finding it to be a welcome entry point to Sony's series.
As for what the future holds for these two, we'll just have to wait and see.
Can you imagine Aloy in Smash? What other PlayStation characters would you like to see make the jump? Let us know in the comments.
[source kotaku.com]
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I'd love to see her summon a ThunderJaw and wreck havoc during a Final Smash sequence.
Everyone knows the only way for this to happen is when Nintendo pays Sony the amount they are asking.
First and foremost we have to see what the new Smash will look like but sure, I certainly wouldn't mind Aloy being in it although the (once) PlayStation character I'd like to see the most is Crash Bandicoot!
I would like to see a Lego Nintendo game first.
@Erigen Well that's how it works anyway, Nintendo pay a licensing fee for third party characters, but I suppose Sony would probably ask for more. Although, there's a light relationship blossoming here with the Lego Horizon game and the producing the Zelda film so who knows.
Aloy can get to the back of whichever queue Lara Croft is in.
That’s… pretty random.
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I find it weird with them saying that Nier wasn't on Switch soon enough when Kazuya was added... yes he definitely deserves to be there but there isn't a Tekken on Switch besides Pokken. Same with Joker although P5R came much later.
Maybe it's because Joker had a game on 3DS and Tekken was on Wii U? Who knows
Aloy for SSB? Ha! Only after Sol Badguy, Ragna the Bloodedge, and Hyde Kido!
They might require a PSN account to play as Aloy lol. Joke aside, Aloy seems like one of the few Nintendo friendly character they could add, however, Rachet and Clank or Astro Bot would be great picks if they were to do a crossover in the future
Sony!!!!! It was bad enough they let Sega on there!
There are about 50 3rd-party characters I'd rather have in Smash before Aloy. Even among Sony characters I'd rather add Ratchet, Astro or Kratos.
Horizon's a solid series but I've never found Aloy to be a terribly compelling character. I'd prefer someone more historic/retro first.
Somehow I don't think Nintendo's likely to come calling...
@IceClimbersMain
Indeed, Tekken was also on GBA and 3DS before appearing on Wii U. A Persona game also appeared on 3DS before Ultimate came out.
Once upon a time Sakurai said that the only requirement for a third party character (aside from legal setbacks, fees, etc) to appear on a Smash game was that at least one game from their franchise released in at least one Nintendo system. That for example removed 2B at the time of Ultimate release, but in theory the rule made a GTA (games on GBC, GBA and DS) rep possible, ironically.
I’d rather see Doomguy in Smash.
@sanderev Absolutely
Many characters I'd rather have than Aloy.
Oh yeah, it is that time again for Smash lists and requests.
Incoming 300+ poorly edited art into squares, go!
No offence but there's a line of classic characters that have been arround for decades to get through first. Like Crash Bandicoot, Rayman, Spyro ,Doom marine, and even Master chief would be I'm front of Aloy.
At this point just re-release smash ultimate for switch 2 that runs at 60fps and better online and add another season pass for new characters.
Nah, Smash Bros. needs a roster revision. Just because a Sony IP is coming out on Switch doesn't mean it should be represented in Smash Bros. I'd rather like the next Smash Bros. introducing more forgotten classic characters.
@HugoGED if that happens I can tell you that Sora is not coming back and you don't want to piss off the KH community 😛
Perhaps the original Playstation (pre-actual Sony Playstation) and Nintendo console deal that "fell through" will remind everyone of the low possibility of Aloy being in Smash. Not to say I don't want her in there, because I certainly do. But other than this Lego crossover, they aren't the best of friends, Sony and Nintendo. If they can put aside their past differences, which this Horizon game may be the beginning of, then we could maybe see a better video game future where there are crossover character usages, but doubtful that we will EVER see Mario or his likeness appear in a Playstation game with consent from Nintendo. Just my thoughts on it.
@N8tiveT3ch KH is not fun. Sora seemed more to placate the whiney KH fans. I've attempted to enjoy all of the KH games so far, even the DS/3DS ones and they just fall short of being enjoyable. A movie, or mini series show, would suit the franchise better imo.
Please no, I already think Steve was too far tbh
@Unit_DTH All I'm saying is that for another smash to exist and for a roster of this size to exist they need Sakurai on the team. Heck from what I hear it was crazy to get Sora, Cloud and Sephiroth in the game. A game of this roster is not going to exist anymore considering how IPs and licensing is treated nowadays.
@N8tiveT3ch I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo tried this. The MK8 expansion pass was testing the waters of a live service-y approach to that franchise imo. No need to release a sequel when it was still selling strong and MK9 would almost certainly be extremely similar in gameplay mechanics anyway.
Smash Ultimate Enhanced Edition with a new mode or two and 2-3 new waves of DLC would make close to as much money for Nintendo as a brand new game with a far lower development budget.
Waiting on a call from Nintendo? Yeah, like Chris Rock's waiting on that call from Rihanna.
Ngl when it comes to PlayStation associated characters, aloy is like the last one I want to see.
@glennthefrog That's what I'm saying. You get it.
I think she is not recognisable enough honestly. Her before crash, spyro, doomguy and chief would be absurd
Well if that ain't proof we're never getting PlayStation All-Stars 2
@PtM I need to get new switch because when I play 8 player smash with my friends it gets very laggy.
Achtually, if it did happen, then Nintendo would only allow LEGO Aloy in Smash 🥸 (pushes up glasses)
@N8tiveT3ch Honestly I would take this. Re-releasing Smash Ultimate would be a nice loophole to keep all the licensing intact, while expanding the roster with season passes to stuff it with more characters like Master Chief, Doomguy, Lara Croft, Ninja Gaiden, Ryza, Sakuna, Amaterasu, Noctis, FFIX Black Mage, etc etc.
@Poco_Lypso How in the world is a woman character considered woke exactly?
@N8tiveT3ch Not totally untrue in what you said. But since the massive increase in digital only games "purchases", IPs have been able to move from platform to platform since the "purchaser" doesn't actually own anything and the company "selling" the games digitally have very low cost:income ratios, if they know how to monetize properly. This can open the flood gates for lots and lots of cross-over ip usage. In essence the contract you agree to when purchasing a digital agreement is so commonplace now that within the games industry these contracts are almost the same, speaking from limited experience in collaborative game making and working with other game devs to utilize and "showcase" their IPs. It isn't a long process to get approval, unless you are working with Nintendo and that requires blood sacrifices fort-nightly, oathes under blue moons and wearing only sheepskin undergarments for them to consider a collab.
@Poco_Lypso I'm with @Ulysses on this one, how is a female protagonist "woke"? Did you play the Horizon games? Not really all that "woke" imo. Also, the character could have a BA moveset and become a great main for Smash players and potentially bring more weapon variety to characters.
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Horizon is a mediocre series and Alloy is insignificant as a character.
I wish that the next Smash only have Nintendo characters.
@Poco_Lypso Listen buddy, Horizon is set inside a post-apocalyptic world where she's fighting for survival and just happens to be a woman. She doesn't exactly have the time to sit in front of a mirror and glam up before going out and finding some food and defending her turf.
Believe me I love Japan, but the flip side is a tendency for Japanese media to idealize and objectify women. It's like how the movie 300 or God of War are an idealized depiction of men, except it would only be comparable if men were systematically marginalized and judged for not being super buff and tough all the time. Which we're not.
Horizon is a fantastic series but in terms of Smash representation I would like to see Crash Bandicoot or, dare I hope, Twinbee ahead of someone like Aloy.
@Poco_Lypso Oh please, one of those? You’re probably calling Horizon ‘woke’ because it didn’t have a big breasted bimbo you could control? I see no other reason to say this.
Edit: just saw your other comments and I was right. That’s a pretty sad way to be.
Guess why Aloy and Abby were some of my favourite game characters of all time: because they felt like actual people instead of some unrealistic sex doll. You know there’s already a lot of content for people who want to watch ‘attractive females’…
@PinderSchloss sad way to be? Lol. We are talking about entertainment here, right?
Guess we all have our preferences when it comes to femininity. Not saying unattractive or male looking females can't have no place in gaming but to each their own ig.
@Ulysses it's entertainment. We choose what we like, right?
I rather have kratos or nathan drake, aloy is boring. Horizon series have cool setting and robots, but the characters are bland.
@Ulysses I means if horizon series supposedly realistic, why the woman is the leaders there? Man are stronger than woman so why they're okay obeying the boss woman? It's not realistic, it isn't like the woman has magic and man isn't or something like that.
Also you're okay with robot dinosaurus but when talking about woman suddenly you want realistic american woman? Lol.
@Poco_Lypso Well yes, you can have your preferences. That still doesn’t mean anything that deviates from those preferences is ‘woke’
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@PinderSchloss Prejudice feigns preference when it looks for the latest buzzword to hide behind unfortunately.
Pcoc_Lypso sounds very incelish.
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