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Peek-a-boo

WebHead wrote:

Sony E3 Conference ought to be goooood.

I think this is going to be a more subdued E3 for them this year. My expectations are quite even this time.

It is asking for too much of Sony to follow up the 'E3 of Dreams' in 2015 (The Last Guardian re-reveal, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Shenmue III) and their majestic orchestra inspired show last year, where the all-new God of War was the star of the show, along with a surprise announcement of an Insomniac Games developed Spider-Man, seeing an unpredictably ruthless zombie horde chasing after you in Days Gone, Quantic Dream showing Detroit: Become Human for the first time and the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy being greeted with near-universal positivity from new and old fans alike.

I reckon that there's only one or two announcements that we do not know of, and that we shall hopefully see some actual gameplay for the likes of Death Stranding, Final Fantasy VII Remake and The Last of Us 2.

I personally believe Nintendo will have more surprises to show this year, whereas Microsoft may fixate too much on '4K' and the power of Scorpio whilst forgetting about the most important thing; new games.

Peek-a-boo

WebHead

@Peek-a-boo fair enough. Reasonable indeed. But there is always a chance for a surprise or two. And well.... ah, you'll see.

Edit: Don't read much into this. I don't actually know anything concrete lol.

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Haruki_NLI

@Dezzy @Peek-a-boo I want to know how Insomniac does the things they do. Spyro looking like that? Ratchet and Clank on PS2 looking like THAT?

But yeah I miss Spyro. its why I'm working on a little something...

And guys....I don't have the drive to go and pick up Yooka-Laylee. I cant even finish the first world.

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NEStalgia

@BLP_Software Sly the movie is not dead. I can't hear you. I won't listen. Sly exists. SLY EXISTS. LALALALALALALALA ICAN'THEARYOU!

If so, that makes me very sad indeed Then again Last Guardian vanished for a decade, and then there it was. Maybe they're holding back until the obligatory companion game is ready.

@Peek-a-boo I agree with you. Sony can't have too big an E3 this year. The orchestra was amazing last year. And they had so many heavy hitters. BUT Sony kind of pulled a Nintendo. It was a bigger budget repeat of Nintendo E3 2014. They wowed audiences by emptying both barrels....and showed games that were up to 3 years away. Half of the things you mentioned are still unknown, unheard of, unseen games including third party games that are really multiplat but presented as Sony games. It was a mastry of presentation but they presented what, when you look at it outside the beautiful packaging was fairly standard and a bit too far forward looking. This E3 can be largely a repeat of last E3, showing us more of the games they teased us last year. And not all of what's shown will STILL be out this year. They'll have some new surprises, maybe some first party surprises, they'll have more repackaged multiplat games as though they're Sony games (a Sony classic technique) and they'll go on and on about VR. They'll ignore Pro. They'll give it platitudes as they show all demos on Pro. But that's it.

MS I'm expecting a full cranial-rectal inversion. It's Microsoft. It's what they do. Their new expensive toy is their focus. Number crunching is their focus. Fully agreed, they'll forget about the games, because, honestly, they have no games short of Halo and GoW...and those are getting kind of musty. They're a machine to play 3rd party AAAs on. Maybe that's good hardware for he current western market but it doesn't play very well at E3 when Sony has orchestras and Nintendo has muppets. Well, ok, Micrososft brings their own special kind of muppets.

Nintendo....well they're Nintendo. They have new hardware. They SHOULD be able to knock it out of the park without trying this year. What will they do instead? Lead with 3DS games, talk about the games we already know about like Odyssey way too long, miss details people are waiting for like dates for XC2/SMT, fumble an explanation about the online app with an awkwardly translated presentation, reveal, excitedly, a bunch of really awful Wii shovelware type motion/party games, and drop one surprise which if it starts with M will instantly crush any thunder Sony/MS had despite being one game and if it doesn't start with M, the internet will require a reboot.

Is it wrong that I'm still excited?

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Ralizah

I could do without the orchestra at E3 this year. I get it, Sony, you want me to be excited about God of War: Naughty Dog edition and The Last of Us: Biker Edition, but it's not happening. I actually expect to be excited by very little from their E3 this year: not particularly hyped for Spider Man, Death Stranding is likely years off, and I don't really care about The Last of Us Part II. We might get a date on Ni no Kuni 2, but having never played the first game, I'm not planning on getting the sequel (I will admit, though: announcing a NnK port before NnK II will make me much more excited, as I've always wanted to play the original). What else is there? Detroit, which is a decent looking movie game that I might buy for $25 in the future, and Dreams, which looks... weird?

Microsoft... eh. I expect to hear a lot of corporate blowhards drool over the teraflops and whatnot in their new mid-line gaming PC with Xbox branding.

All I need from E3 on the Nintendo side of things are a few interesting Switch reveals (Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Metroid, etc.) and a confirmation that EOV is eventually coming West.

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Haruki_NLI

@Ralizah I expect the following:

Sony brings out a man to tells us what genre his alleged "game" isn't in, without telling us anything about what it is, to the sound of an orchestra because beating your chest is what they do best. Announce some games we won't see for at least 2 years, let David Cage have his moment, show more God of War: No One Complained It Wasn't Like Naughty Dog Edition, see some more Days Gone look how many zombies we can have (Didn't Gamecube do that with Marios?) and probably whatever franchise they want to give the Naughty Dog camera style to next because it sells hurr durr.

Seriously. Sony. Let Naughty Dog be Naughty Dog with that awkward camera and acting and all that. Your other IP are fine.

Microsoft will enjoy their 12 months with ads saying Most Powerful Console until Sony releases one better so they get that tagline back because the boxes themselves are borderline indistinguishable. The people of the world will continue feeling sexually inadequate until mommy tells them its bed time and then resume the next day because they need to justify their purchases else they aren't compensating enough.

And Nintendo will be female dogged about regardless. Its the internet. Get used to it.

On that note...Yooka-Laylee is.....yeah. Its a game.

...no profanity please...-Joey

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Octane

70 hours into Horizon and I just discovered you can dive...

Octane

Dezzy

@Peek-a-boo

Still plays great too. You can buy the whole trilogy as 1 download on the Vita PSN. Looks great on a small screen.

BLP_Software wrote:

I know how Insmoniac does the things they do. Spyro looking like that? Ratchet and Clank on PS2 looking like THAT?

What do you mean you know how they did it?

You know they got fairly large and open 3D worlds to work with only 2MB RAM? Please explain then.

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Haruki_NLI

@Dezzy Oh. Typo. No I don't.

I believe it would be some programming work arounds. Degrading object quality at distance and the such.

Who knows right? But hey, thanks for biting my head off over a typo.

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Peek-a-boo

@Octane You mean dive into the water, or diving out of the way?

It's a bit finicky to dive into the water, actually, but if it's the latter then:

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Octane

@Peek-a-boo No, as in under the surface, underwater. With a breath meter and all of that.

Octane

Peek-a-boo

@Octane Oh, I see! Well, that was something I also found out by chance so, you are not alone.

How far along are you, story wise? I managed to 100% the game in a shy over 58 hours.

Here's another gif:

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Octane

@Peek-a-boo Almost there I think. I'm level 50, and the story mission is around level 20, but it feels like it's going to end sooner than later. I think another 10 or 20 hours and I'm done, so probably by next week.

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NEStalgia

@Ralizah Says it all when most of your list for Sony E3 expectations 2017 is....games that were in E3 2016.

Detroit does interest me though. Sure it's a graphic novel, but that doesn't mean it's bad! It really needed a better name though. I think Sony names everything with a random phrase generator now.

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Dezzy

BLP_Software wrote:

I believe it would be some programming work arounds. Degrading object quality at distance and the such.

All games do that. Most memory usage comes from textures though (or sound if there's a lot of spoken dialogue). So the challenge is getting a large and interesting level that at any given location can be contained in under 2MB AND that is set up in such a way that moving to a new area (that requires new textures) takes long enough in game-time for those new textures to be loaded into RAM.

Something like Crash Bandicoot was a bit easier to do on the PS1 because even though the entire levels are over 2MB in size, you can easily work out a dynamic loading system because you always know exactly what the player can see purely based on their distance along the linear path. Fully explorable 3D areas are different because they're too complex for you to ever know that, so you have to work from estimations and/or heavy level segmenting.

It's worth appreciating how much more of a technical achievement something was back then. Compare it to modern equivalents like Mario 3D World, which can probably just load the entire level into RAM from the start.

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Ralizah

@NEStalgia Detroit doesn't look bad at all, but I'm not keen on paying $60 for what is likely an eight hour interactive movie.

I wouldn't mind Sony having samey stuff as last year if I was excited by most of what they showed. As it stands, though, it looks like late 2017 and most of 2018 will see a focus on big AAA Western games and... egh. Not my sort of thing. Which is perfectly fine, because it'll take me to the end of this year to process the explosion of high-quality Japanese software on PS4 anyway, and by that time, the Nintendo Switch should be operating on all cylinders.

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Dezzy

Ralizah wrote:

@NEStalgia Detroit doesn't look bad at all,

First time that sentence has been written.

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TuVictus

I can go a bit extreme and say I hope we get a better look at mother effing kingdom hearts 3 for more than one gosh dang minute at E3

And maybe ff7 remake

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eltomo

Some Shenmue 3 (1/2 HD remake) would be enough to please me with Sony's presentation.

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