Topic: Why doesn’t Switch have achievements yet?

@ThanosReXXX There wasn't really many suggestions that I thought were all that great, there was someone who mentioned being able to turn them off completely which would be a good idea, I also went over the fact that you can usually remove them from your profile should you choose to do so. I actually like the fact you listed all the reasons why you are against achievement support, it's was more constructive than a brief sentence with no reason to it, that would add nothing. I didn't say that it brings more value to the game, replay value yes but not value it's self, I also said that it can bring more incentive to want to do certain challenges but that's only for those that are interested of course. They are still challenges that you can do, just with a separate list, the challenge it's self is still awarded by completing a challenge in the particular game, so for me it certainly adds to it.

I didn't say you went off topic or anything like that, I'd say you stayed on topic for the majority or if not all of the discussion, other than claiming I could potentially be banned which I think was a very silly claim since I hadn't broken any rules or even been rude to anyone.

@Zuljaras Doesn't Minecraft share the exact same achievements in game as it does with the platform achievements/trophies?

@NNGaming900 Well, then I think we've basically covered all points then, right?

To be honest, as you may have noticed, quite a few in this community simply aren't as into achievements as you are, or at least as much as you appreciate them, so when I saw your topic, I already expected it to go the way it has gone, even if I hadn't joined in. That's basically also what I meant with getting to know the community. Certain topics are simply divisive on here. And you happened to have picked two of them: Zelda BotW and achievements, so you certainly do seem to have a knack for opening up a can of worms...

As for the banning thing: not as ridiculous as you seem to think, but I'll blame that on you not being entirely familiar with the community here yet. Once you're here a bit longer, you'll probably start to notice the subtle differences between this community and other gaming sites.

I've been a member of plenty of them, and this truly is the most relaxed one I've ever been on, and as such, I adapted myself to this community. Mind you, that doesn't mean that I turned myself into someone that I'm not, just that I made an effort to fit in better with the rest of the crowd, and as a result, I've had plenty of enjoyable discussions on here, regardless of a difference of opinion, and I'd even go so far as to say that I've made a couple of new friends.

@NNGaming900 So if that's what you need achievements for then make up your own goals as I said before. Make a goal of beating world 1-1 on the hardest difficulty in under 10 minutes. Make a goal of catching all the Pokemon in said region. Make a goal of unlocking every car. If that's what make you enjoy the game. You don't need some gamescore to say yeah I did it you know you did it and thats all that matters.

@ThanosReXXX Pretty much. And yes I was actually quite surprised at how many people on here don't care at all for achievements as it's very different for the Playstation and Xbox, also surprised at how many people agreed with me in the BOTW thread, it was pretty much split 50/50. I can understand discussing BOTW being overrated being very overrated being on the more controversial side but I never would've thought discussing achievements would be.

So would you say this forum is more strict or even just different in general in terms of what others may tolerate? And this forum seems pretty good, not quite as active as some others but still some good discussions.

@Tasuki I've already said before that I usually wouldn't think of any good ideas for achievements other than things like complete the Pokedex ect, I don't really need them either, would just much prefer to have them than to not. But even if it did get to the point where I wanted to make up my own achievements, there's not much point when I could just play a similar game (or even the same game if not Nintendo exclusive) on a different platform and have actual achievements to grind towards and unlock.

@NNGaming900 I do not know. I just prefer to have achievement list inside the game. Not some generic achievement system.

@NNGaming900 Well, the Zelda BotW topic outcome wasn't much of a surprise to me either, because that game in and of itself is already quite divisive. Some people always wanted an open world Zelda, because that basically was how it all started with the first game, but obviously, due to hardware restrictions,, they could never truly fulfill that idea. And now that we have an open world Zelda, half the world is like: "yeah, but we didn't want THAT kind of open world Zelda".

Just imagine being one of the developers/programmers, having slaved away on the game for over 5 years, and then seeing all these people online bashing your efforts within the first few days of playing it...

I'd say that Nintendo fans are sometimes the most fickle and vocal, although Sony's also do a pretty good job of it.

As for this forum: as mentioned, I find it to be one of the better places to hang around on, as a gamer. And I've already been lurking around here for over a decade, and finally decided to join in 2012.

It's not that it's more strict, actually quite the opposite, but in general, the more vocal people are a bit frowned upon, depending on how extreme they get or how persistent they are. Forum topics that are going nowhere but in circles is a good example of something that will stand out at some point.

I think we two have at least come to some gentlemen's agreement, regardless of our opposing feelings on the topic, but I see there's still some rehashing going on with the others, and I hope you will agree that there's only so many times that you can keep saying the same things, which goes for both sides, so I'm not just pointing at you.

So, when you get to that point, then I guess it's time to close the discussion, because it's not really moving forward anymore. But you know, at least you got a bit further in the other topic you made, so 1 out of 2 is still a pretty decent score, considering it's your first two topics to begin with...

@NNGaming900 Ah but there is a point to you making achievements, you said so yourself that it adds satisfaction to doing said achievement. So if you don't get satisfied by doing your own achievements and want in console achievements that leads me to the conclusion that you need that validation from getting an achievement added to a gamescore for the world to see otherwise you wouldn't be so against Nintendo not having achievements.

If I wanted to get into shape I would set a goal of say doing 100 push ups a day and do it feeling satisfied cause I did it. Do I need a T-shirt saying "I did a hundred pushups today". No I don't cause doing the 100 pushups is satisfying enough. I don't need a pat on the back for doing 100 pushups. And that all achievements are.

@ThanosReXXX To me it was quite the surprise as all I tend to see are huge rave reviews, I don't think I've ever seen someone say it's overrated or anything like that, although I'm not exactly reading reviews of it regularly. I don't know, I certainly haven't seen anyone bashing BOTW myself, even in my thread I said it was a good game, just not 10/10. Although criticism is something all game developers will have to deal with as you can't please everybody, especially seeing as though they completely changed the formula for such a popular franchise.

@Tasuki When did I say that I don't get satisfaction from doing challenges myself? I even brought up the fact that completing the Pokedex was satisfying for me but would've been even more so had there been platform achievements. Having something to grind towards is in no way linked towards validation, as I've said that thought could quite possibly be down to your own insecurity. But even if it was a validation thing and someone was grinding achievements for self validation, why does that automatically mean they'd be sharing it around and bragging? Also, I'm not so against Switch not having achievements, like I said I'm still going to play their exclusives that I enjoy, I just said it would be a welcomed addition to many. The only one that is against anything is you being so against achievements being added due to the chance of others looking down on you if you have less achievements than them, even though I previously mentioned achievements can be turned off and/or not shown on profile on other platforms.

If you wanted to get into shape after not exercising regularly, doing 100 pushups would be such a bad idea as it's far too overkill to start off with. But you can make all the silly analogies you want, but they are ludicrous comparisons to make and the fact remains you carry on with false assumptions consistently, even in this post alone you made three incorrect assumptions.

@NNGaming900 True, but I'd have to say only to some extent. There's some games getting absolutely thrashed, just because "we" the gamers didn't get exactly all that we wanted, aka demanded...

As for BotW: I actually agree with you, to some extent. I still think it's a highly enjoyable game, and a good game as well, just not a perfect 10. But that's just your typical Zelda hype. There's rarely a Zelda game that scores lower, and if it does, it's never lower than a 7 something.

The part that I don't really factor into the score for myself, is if there's some less attractive graphics in there, such as the jaggies you mentioned. Long as the game as a whole looks good enough and plays well enough,
I just don't mind about some funky or low res textures.

@NNGaming900 And I am done with you. You aren't going to get it and I am just repeating myself. On that note. I have one more thing to say.

@Tasuki Good effort either way, guess I'll get back to boosting my ego and validating myself by grinding some achievements!

@NNGaming900 Now see comments like that will get you into trouble. As per the community rules

Do not "troll" or "bait" other users; Posts that purposefully or systematically go against the grain to trigger a reaction from others are prohibited. You are entitled to an opinion, but purposefully disrupting discussions with unpopular opinions to create arguments is not allowed

Just a fair warning.

@Tasuki How have I trolled or baited anyone? Both threads I created are genuine questions that I'm curious of. If you genuinely got upset over a thread in which someone is asking about if Switch will get achievements then I don't know what to tell you, but that clearly wasn't the intention here.

@NNGaming900 what are achievements in game's, are they just new levels you get if you beat a big boss.

I'm a time traveller, and I just wanted to say that this thread has no future.

No, really, what are we all still on about? If OP doesn't want opinions, and only an answer to the topic title's question, shouldn't all posts just say;

I don't know, Nintendo didn't say.

To be honest, achievements are the reason I choose Xbox One version if I have to choose between Xbox and Switch.

I do wonder though. How many people who were gaming before online was a thing care about this? I'm 41 and i didn't care on PS3 and i don't care now. In my day we played games for the thrill of it. We set our own goals, played on higher difficulties or looked for secrets because we wanted to. Not so some digital trophy popped up on our screens and said atta boy/girl! A winner is you!

Sorry if i turned into cranky kong for a minute there but my goodness you youngsters sure like those trophies! Ping! You brushed your teeth today!

Okay I'll admit there is one incident where i was slightly amused by a trophy. It was on double dragon Neon after beating the last boss and it's appearance was perfectly timed! Anyone know what I'm talking about?